We, the elect, can save the world from Coronavirus

[posthuman]

The Church is not in Matthew 24...

isn't it?

"remember Lot's wife!"

-- the woman taken by the hand by angels, rescued from impending fire & doom, who having looked back toward her children, was memorialized forever as a pillar, made of salt - a preservative and symbol of everlasting covenant?

a woman, which in type through out scripture represents a nation, Israel, or the church. a wife. a wife of the only righteous man in a city.

pretty sure that's the church -- tho yeah, it's the church being removed. so kind of 'featured in the chapter waving goodbye' lol
it's a sign for Israel -- we will be a sign to Israel; we are a sign for Israel even now.

 

[posthuman]

Even the flu does not evolve. It literally is separate strands of the base.

um isn't evolution exactly that, branches from a common genetic trunk arising over myriad generations, some to disappear, some to persist and flourish?

it's not an origin theory. it's a theory of how speciation & variations within species happen. i.e. separate strands of a base.

 

[posthuman]

I don't believe in evolution. All I needed to say is that the Wuhan virus was created in a laboratory, and many sources have concurred. We should also keep in mind that information coming out of China is generally disinformation or propaganda. The Chinese government floated the idea that the virus came from the wet markets, while they destroyed the lab evidence, and attacked the whistleblowers.

translation:

FOXNEWS told me China made the virus because they hate and envy the glorious USA.
other conservative propaganda outlets also ran the same blurb and encouraged me to spread the conspiratorial disinformation further.

 

[Runningman]

yes, because He's answering 3 specific questions the disciples asked ((v.3)) with 3 different answers.

1. when will these things be? ((not one stone left on another))
2. what will be the sign of Your coming?
3. what will be the sign of the end of the age?

He answers all 3 but He doesn't answer in the order the questions were asked

I think he answered them in the order they will happen.

 

[iamsoandso]

I don't think any human can tell what time the Lord will give us the "end times". but we can know God is in control and we are again living through a plague. We can look at what scripture tells us of plagues to know how to respond to this one.

The Black Death was a plague. The Jews weren't as affected by this plague as the gentiles because they washed their hands in obedience to God's command before eating.

When the majority of people are disobedient to the Lord, the righteous through Christ who live among them must suffer the same as the disobedient unless there is sufficient numbers of God's children. Then the disobedient are saved from the plague along with the obedient.

We can know these things, but it is not in our power to know God's timing.

So then you think the beast,his image and mark have been here since 1350(approx)? If so then there is a bigger problem in your thinking that the coronavirus is being poured out on the ones who worship the image,have the mark ect. in that if you don't know who it is or if your worshiping his image or buying and selling with his mark then you might have the mark yourself and not know it.

 

[posthuman]

remnant of jews during the time of Jacob’s trouble

Believers in Christ are God's elect.

"remnant of Jews" are Jews who don't reject the LORD - who is Christ

 

[posthuman]

they washed their hands in obedience to God's command before eating.

where did God command that?

 

[iamsoandso]

Judas Iscariot?

why did John marvel. did he recognize the beast or have no idea who he was looking at. why does Judas "go to his own place" - something not said of anyone else in the scripture?

I'm not seeing your reasoning are you meaning that Judas Iscariot rose in the past and fulfilled the things written of the MOS?

 

[cv5]

I don't think any human can tell what time the Lord will give us the "end times". but we can know God is in control and we are again living through a plague. We can look at what scripture tells us of plagues to know how to respond to this one.

The Black Death was a plague. The Jews weren't as affected by this plague as the gentiles because they washed their hands in obedience to God's command before eating.

When the majority of people are disobedient to the Lord, the righteous through Christ who live among them must suffer the same as the disobedient unless there is sufficient numbers of God's children. Then the disobedient are saved from the plague along with the obedient.

We can know these things, but it is not in our power to know God's timing.

The BD was spread by fleas. Because of climactic conditions causing rats to die, the fleas infecting the rats spread the disease to humans.

Hand washing is irrelevant in this case.

 

[posthuman]

I'm not seeing your reasoning are you meaning that Judas Iscariot rose in the past and fulfilled the things written of the MOS?

i don't personally think it was in the past, but perhaps in the not-so-distant future. i think it's possible he will be pseudo-resurrected as the beast who was, who is not ((at the time Revelation was written)) and who is to come. the 8th king of Rev. 17
justification for that line of conjectural reasoning is kinda complex, but maybe you can put some of it together for yourself now that i've brought the idea to your attention - Judas is a very unique figure in scripture.

 

[cv5]

Judas Iscariot?

why did John marvel. did he recognize the beast or have no idea who he was looking at. why does Judas "go to his own place" - something not said of anyone else in the scripture?

Judas? Hardly. The beast aka the son of perdition is clearly described as a king.

 

[iamsoandso]

i don't personally think it was in the past, but perhaps in the not-so-distant future. i think it's possible he will be pseudo-resurrected as the beast who was, who is not ((at the time Revelation was written)) and who is to come. the 8th king of Rev. 17
justification for that line of conjectural reasoning is kinda complex, but maybe you can put some of it together for yourself now that i've brought the idea to your attention - Judas is a very unique figure in scripture.

Okay then covid-19,black death ect. can be ruled out as the wrath/plagues in Revelation in what your thinking if J.I. hasn't risen yet because until the beast,mark ect. comes there can be no punishment for those sins.

 

[posthuman]

Judas? Hardly. The beast aka the son of perdition is clearly described as a king.

also says he's "going to his destruction / to perdition" in Revelation 17:11
compare John 17:12

 

[posthuman]

Okay then covid-19,black death ect. can be ruled out as the wrath/plagues in Revelation in what your thinking if J.I. hasn't risen yet because until the beast,mark ect. comes there can be no punishment for those sins.

i agree -- the plagues et al of the 4th seal in Revelation 6 kill 1/4 of the population.
we're nowhere near even approaching that level of judgement yet. that would presently be close to 2 billion people. the entire USA population times 6.

 

[iamsoandso]

i agree -- the plagues et al of the 4th seal in Revelation 6 kill 1/4 of the population.
we're nowhere near even approaching that level of judgement yet. that would presently be close to 2 billion people. the entire USA population times 6.

We have to bare in mind that C-19 is just beginning though. If someone has preexisting conditions they risk not surviving it. If someone catches it and survives it then they have a certain amount of damage from c-19 to their organs and so if they catch it again and again with those preexisting conditions(c-19 organ damage) it could eventually kill that many.

 

[Gregoryp]

Who do you think 'the elect' are?

https://www.gotquestions.org/elect-of-God.html not boasting but that includes the likes of me. I have a long testimony to share one day, so its definitely correct.

 

[posthuman]

We have to bare in mind that C-19 is just beginning though. If someone has preexisting conditions they risk not surviving it. If someone catches it and survives it then they have a certain amount of damage from c-19 to their organs and so if they catch it again and again with those preexisting conditions(c-19 organ damage) it could eventually kill that many.

i mean imagine all of north & south America, all of Japan, Korea, Polynesia, Australia -- plus absolutely everyone in Europe, dead. all of them. not one left. that's the scale Revelation 6 is talking about.
i agree we *could* be watching immediate precursors taking place, but that would be bowl #4 -- there are 3 other bowls first, and i think we'll see a kind of unprecedented word dominion, rampant murder far beyond what we know now, and worldwide famine first. plus Damascus being removed from ever being a city again thrown in there somewhere, as *someone* tries to invade & pillage Israel while a group of 'young lions' ((ooh! the USA in the Bible!?)) gripe but don't lift a finger to stop it.

yes things are falling into place and it feels like a cusp - no i don't think we're there yet. that's just me tho and i'm not particularly well informed or confident about eschatology

 

[Blik]

So then you think the beast,his image and mark have been here since 1350(approx)? If so then there is a bigger problem in your thinking that the coronavirus is being poured out on the ones who worship the image,have the mark ect. in that if you don't know who it is or if your worshiping his image or buying and selling with his mark then you might have the mark yourself and not know it.

I don't know what the mark of the beast looks like and I don't think anyone else does, either. I know of a plague when I see one, and I have read of plagues we have had in the past.

I simply have absolute trust in the Lord, put my life in His hands, and study His word for instructions.

 

[inHisImage]

I don't believe in evolution. All I needed to say is that the Wuhan virus was created in a laboratory, and many sources have concurred. We should also keep in mind that information coming out of China is generally disinformation or propaganda. The Chinese government floated the idea that the virus came from the wet markets, while they destroyed the lab evidence, and attacked the whistleblowers.

I don't believe in "Evolution" either. Which is why I pointed out it would be difficult to create something that evolves like Covid has evolved.

 

[inHisImage]

um isn't evolution exactly that, branches from a common genetic trunk arising over myriad generations, some to disappear, some to persist and flourish?

it's not an origin theory. it's a theory of how speciation & variations within species happen. i.e. separate strands of a base.

Excellent point!