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Ok.
What makes you think OSAS is a license to sin?
As a person who believed in NOSAS and came over to OSAS my walk with Jesus has been better (still have struggles)
Now as a believer in NOSAS then I obviously believed that I could lose my salvation based on what I did or did not do. This type of believe sets bars that cannot be kept.
So I tried my best not to sin, I did not want to sin but feared the 3 strikes and your out.
So when I came to the OSAS always camp my position concerning sin did not change.
I did not come to believe in OSAS as an excuse to sin but I did my homework.
My position in Jesus and my security in him changed.
As a result my struggle with sin based on my own efforts was replaced with the grace of God and the Holy Spirit working in me to overcome sin.
So where did you get or the feeling that it sounds like you can do all you want and still be saved.
Such a view is an abomination and Paul addressed this in Romans 5-7
So OSAS is biblical but unfortunately it's interpretation may not be in false teachers hands.
Personally I would go with ES based on Bible knowledge to counteract those who accuse of using OSAS as a license to sin even when you tell them that you do not believe that but still bang on about it.
What makes you think OSAS is a license to sin?
As a person who believed in NOSAS and came over to OSAS my walk with Jesus has been better (still have struggles)
Now as a believer in NOSAS then I obviously believed that I could lose my salvation based on what I did or did not do. This type of believe sets bars that cannot be kept.
So I tried my best not to sin, I did not want to sin but feared the 3 strikes and your out.
So when I came to the OSAS always camp my position concerning sin did not change.
I did not come to believe in OSAS as an excuse to sin but I did my homework.
My position in Jesus and my security in him changed.
As a result my struggle with sin based on my own efforts was replaced with the grace of God and the Holy Spirit working in me to overcome sin.
So where did you get or the feeling that it sounds like you can do all you want and still be saved.
Such a view is an abomination and Paul addressed this in Romans 5-7
So OSAS is biblical but unfortunately it's interpretation may not be in false teachers hands.
Personally I would go with ES based on Bible knowledge to counteract those who accuse of using OSAS as a license to sin even when you tell them that you do not believe that but still bang on about it.
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I never said your faith is in error...you have eternal life don’t you?
I said I don’t use the terminology Once Saved Always Saved.....I have agreed with you guys about it way back in previous posts.
But have been brought to realise I am in error...Once Saved Always Saved is not permitted for me to say to others that i am that.
I have eternal life....
Yes I am....I understand my own choice now..you have brought it to the forefront for me....when you have been denied choice for many yrs of your life...you can slip back into thinking that you don’t have that choice again...because it has been so ingrained into you.
Not knowing what choice was.
Thank you for showing me that.....I do have a choice!!....
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Very true.
There seems to be a concept if we are told not to do then we will not.
That was my experience with my gambling problem when I sought help from my church.
Bible says don't do.
Yeh ok if could just stop then I could have done.
Always a cause of the effect. Deal with cause then the effect will be dealt with.
There seems to be a concept if we are told not to do then we will not.
That was my experience with my gambling problem when I sought help from my church.
Bible says don't do.
Yeh ok if could just stop then I could have done.
Always a cause of the effect. Deal with cause then the effect will be dealt with.
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The person who told you that is wrong. And We know who he is.
But if you wish believe that. That you to will think my belief is in error No matter how many times you claim you do not
I beliebe the fact
A person who by gods call power who is saved. By living faith (not dead faith) and ONCE that person is saved, he will ALWAYS be SAVED
But if you wish believe that. That you to will think my belief is in error No matter how many times you claim you do not
I beliebe the fact
A person who by gods call power who is saved. By living faith (not dead faith) and ONCE that person is saved, he will ALWAYS be SAVED
Yep, you just killed the Calvinist arg in one fell swoop.
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