The question no flat-earther can answer

[Chester]

Is there anyone on here from the southern hemisphere that can attest to distances between points (or between lines of longitude)? It seems to me a simple matter to simply measure some distances in the southern hemisphere. If the flat earth model were true, you are going to have extremely higher distances between lines of longitude at the southern tip of South American from what the round Earth model says.

This seems such an easy test to me that it is ridiculous!

 

[Butterflyyy]

Thing is🤔Why is it so important anyways? And why would Satan want to deceive us into thinking this? I think rather the spiritual strategy going on here is more important than Flat Earthers realise.....
Seems to me it is a good way of making Christians look wacky to discredit them as witnesses for Christ, and also to distract them into debating and sometimes even arguing instead of discussing, praying about and acting upon what really matters, which is seeking God and winning souls....
Surely time would also be better spent encouraging one another and dwelling together in unity where God commands the blessing. If we are to seek peace and pursue it and also if the World will know about Jesus because of how we love one another then you can be sure that the Powers of Darkness want to thwart all of that.

 

[GaryA]

Is there anyone on here from the southern hemisphere that can attest to distances between points (or between lines of longitude)? It seems to me a simple matter to simply measure some distances in the southern hemisphere. If the flat earth model were true, you are going to have extremely higher distances between lines of longitude at the southern tip of South American from what the round Earth model says.

This seems such an easy test to me that it is ridiculous!

Ask the Australians about the train that runs across southern Australia. Ask them if it is not nearly straight as an arrow (at least, compared to google maps - where it is anything but straight). Ask them how long the track is from end to end (longer than all of BE Australia east-to-west).

A FEer "did the math" based on information from the train system's website - with some very interesting results.

I would love to see a good honest Austrailian verify the FEer's research.

(Or, give us some real data that shows just exactly how the FEer was mistaken.)

 

[GaryA]

Thing is🤔Why is it so important anyways? And why would Satan want to deceive us into thinking this? I think rather the spiritual strategy going on here is more important than Flat Earthers realise.....
Seems to me it is a good way of making Christians look wacky to discredit them as witnesses for Christ, and also to distract them into debating and sometimes even arguing instead of discussing, praying about and acting upon what really matters, which is seeking God and winning souls....
Surely time would also be better spent encouraging one another and dwelling together in unity where God commands the blessing. If we are to seek peace and pursue it and also if the World will know about Jesus because of how we love one another then you can be sure that the Powers of Darkness want to thwart all of that.

Try suspending your BE beliefs and look at all of this from a FE perspective. Then see if you get a different result in your thinking.

If you do - then, perhaps you will better understand the FE perspective. If not - then, you are probably incapable of escaping the hold that the BE belief system has on you. Which means you don't really want to - because, I believe that anyone who truly wants to know the truth can do so.

Some people just don't seem to care enough about the truth...

Whether you are in that group is left to be seen. I am not accusing you of anything.

 

[Runningman]

Thing is🤔Why is it so important anyways? And why would Satan want to deceive us into thinking this? I think rather the spiritual strategy going on here is more important than Flat Earthers realise.....
Seems to me it is a good way of making Christians look wacky to discredit them as witnesses for Christ, and also to distract them into debating and sometimes even arguing instead of discussing, praying about and acting upon what really matters, which is seeking God and winning souls....
Surely time would also be better spent encouraging one another and dwelling together in unity where God commands the blessing. If we are to seek peace and pursue it and also if the World will know about Jesus because of how we love one another then you can be sure that the Powers of Darkness want to thwart all of that.

Yes. There is enough material in flat earth theory to cause years of debate and distraction. It's actually clever and almost makes sense which can be intensely engaging to those who embrace it.

The weakness of flat earth is that it's a half-baked theory that attempts to prove something that isn't independently verifiable or debunked by the average person. It capitalizes on the fact that most of the information we know are given to us by gatekeepers of information like scientists and governments. Therefore, it just spreads confusion and disillusionment. People are left having no idea what's going on.

It's kinda easy to see once you realize that flat earth addresses a theory without ever proving or debunking it. It's a wild goose chase, a red herring logical fallacy, a distraction from where our focus should be.

 

[GaryA]

The weakness of flat earth is that it's a half-baked theory that attempts to prove something that isn't independently verifiable or debunked by the average person. It capitalizes on the fact that most of the information we know are given to us by gatekeepers of information like scientists and governments.

Do you realize just how hypocritical this really is?

Are you really saying that FEers should have to prove their case to everyone else but that BEers should not?

Everyone [who believes in Truth] should be trying to prove or disprove BE for/to themselves!

I can understand someone not having much interest in science. However, if you are going to promote BE as the truth - you would be wise to [at least] actually independently prove it for/to yourself before declaring it to be truth.

Otherwise, you are just a "sucker" for whatever Satan wants to feed you.

Read the statement at the top of this page until you understand the simple but profound truth that it is telling you:

http://mywebsite.us/Truth.html

 

[Chester]

Everyone [who believes in Truth] should be trying to prove or disprove BE for/to themselves!

Been there - done that - studied both sides - including a huge fat book on flat earth - and came out solidly round Earth!

Waiting for a someone to sponsor a trip by ship for all flat-earthers to go inside the Arctic Circle and watch the sun make a circle around the horizon on Dec. 20. (Not that I think that would convince them . . . maybe a few of them . . . !!!!!!!!!!)

 

[Runningman]

Do you realize just how hypocritical this really is?

Are you really saying that FEers should have to prove their case to everyone else but that BEers should not?

Everyone [who believes in Truth] should be trying to prove or disprove BE for/to themselves!

I can understand someone not having much interest in science. However, if you are going to promote BE as the truth - you would be wise to [at least] actually independently prove it for/to yourself before declaring it to be truth.

Otherwise, you are just a "sucker" for whatever Satan wants to feed you.

Read the statement at the top of this page until you understand the simple but profound truth that it is telling you:

http://mywebsite.us/Truth.html

Yes. Anyone claiming anything should have to defend their claims against the contrary, even those who believe in round earth. I am saying that what has been offered by flat earth is, again, a half-baked theory that doesn't prove or debunk anything, leaving only more questions than actual answers.

When are FEs going to prove it? Either FE cannot or will not prove it.

You know, there is undeniable proof that the other celestial bodies in our solar system are round. There's a strong logical precedent to believe the earth is round, too, consistent with what round earth says.

Anyway, you clearly don't want to hear this. And no I'm not going to that website and reading something over and over until I indoctrinate myself with it.

 

[GaryA]

Been there - done that - studied both sides - including a huge fat book on flat earth - and came out solidly round Earth!

Waiting for a someone to sponsor a trip by ship for all flat-earthers to go inside the Arctic Circle and watch the sun make a circle around the horizon on Dec. 20. (Not that I think that would convince them . . . maybe a few of them . . . !!!!!!!!!!)

No FEer will have a problem with seeing that within the Arctic Circle.

 

[GaryA]

Yes. Anyone claiming anything should have to defend their claims against the contrary, even those who believe in round earth. I am saying that what has been offered by flat earth is, again, a half-baked theory that doesn't prove or debunk anything, leaving only more questions than actual answers.

When are FEs going to prove it? Either FE cannot or will not prove it.

You know, there is undeniable proof that the other celestial bodies in our solar system are round. There's a strong logical precedent to believe the earth is round, too, consistent with what round earth says.

Anyway, you clearly don't want to hear this. And no I'm not going to that website and reading something over and over until I indoctrinate myself with it.

Are you approaching FE with a BE POV? Or, are you able to "suspend" your BE indoctrination (And, yes - that is exactly what it is.) and approach it with a FE POV?

Approaching FE with a BE POV does not work.

When are BEers going to prove BE?

I have never seen it and am still waiting...

If your idea of 'undeniable' is NASA pictures, then you need a lesson in logical reasoning, [real] critical thinking, and reality.

To prove BE or FE to be true, you (as an individual) have to begin with 'ground-base-zero' and test things without assuming what some "authority" has issued as fact.

What you choose to believe is your own. And, you have the right to believe it. Only, be sure to choose wisely...

 

[GaryA]

Waiting for a someone to sponsor a trip by ship for all flat-earthers to go inside the Arctic Circle and watch the sun make a circle around the horizon on Dec. 20.

No FEer will have a problem with seeing that within the Arctic Circle.

Well, yes - that would be something to see on Dec. 20 . . .

 

[Dino246]

How is it that the "pull" of the moon greatly affects the oceans while having only a "slight" effect on our 'delicate' bodily systems???

Answered already.

 

[Chester]

Well, yes - that would be something to see on Dec. 20 . . .

Wah! What a mess I made of my story!

I meant Antarctic Circle -

 

[Chester]

No FEer will have a problem with seeing that within the Arctic Circle.

Antarctic Circle would be a big problem for flat Earthers, though, eh?

 

[GaryA]

Wah! What a mess I made of my story!

I meant Antarctic Circle -

I figured that is what you meant.

 

[GaryA]

Antarctic Circle would be a big problem for flat Earthers, though, eh?

Yes - you should never be able to see a 360-degree sun-on-horizon complete day cycle on the south side of the Antarctic Circle.

 

[Chester]

Yes - you should never be able to see a 360-degree sun-on-horizon complete day cycle on the south side of the Antarctic Circle.

Want me to share some youtube videos that show it -- LOL! (faked and put together pieces as other flat-earthers have told me!!)

 

[Chester]

Would taking you to the tip of South America and have you watch the sun make a semicircle around the sky instead of going straight across do the job? I bet at the same degrees south of the equator the sun behaves and moves exactly the same in the southern hemisphere as it does the same degrees north of the equator in the northern hemisphere. But you want data to prove it - no, that would not do because the data is biased . . . so I will get witnesses who have seen it - but no the witnesses would be biased and lying or piecing photographs together.

So why don't we get a trip together and see this for ourselves! Oh, for a million dollars and I could convert a shipload of flat-earthers!

 

[GaryA]

Want me to share some youtube videos that show it -- LOL! (faked and put together pieces as other flat-earthers have told me!!)

I have seen it - the one with the watch - could have been faked - easy to do - take Arctic footage - reverse it - call it Antarctic footage. Not that difficult to do the watch trick.

 

[GaryA]

Oh, for a million dollars and I could convert a shipload of flat-earthers!

No, friend - if you had a million dollars, you would do far better to help those in need (that you know or might search out) and spread the gospel...

Hard times may be coming soon - save your money.

There is a better way to solve the FE question.