"Not by works" - false!

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CharliRenee

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I saw this title and the first thing that came to mind was explosion, lol....attracting controversy much?!!!

Guess I took the bait too, lol!!

If works are important, which they are... God, ALONE, empowers them, we ought to be cognizant of His word that tells us to avoid controversy and disputes
 
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I saw this title and the first thing that came to mind was explosion, lol....attracting controversy much?!!!
where have you been sis? I have missed your company and your kind words or have I just not been where you were? lol
 

Magenta

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Thank you, I will have to give it a view :)
You are welcome! It was premiered at the Toronto Film Festival in 2003 :D Wiki says of it: This three-hour, epic, feature film follows John's Gospel precisely, without additions to the story from the other Gospels or omissions of the Gospel's complex passages. And also: This film was created by a constituency of artists from Canada and the United Kingdom, along with academic and theological consultants from around the world. Though, Some have commented that the inclusion of Mary Magdalene at the Last Supper has no Biblical citation.

Enjoy! :)
 

CharliRenee

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where have you been sis? I have missed your company and your kind words or have I just not been where you were? lol
How kind of you, Brother. I have missed you and all my family in Christ here. I have two jobs now, trying to keep this house of mine. He is providing, week by week, and I am so grateful.

We are so blessed with Him, Brother. How are you and your family doing?
 
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But that Father doesn't disown the child for not obeying and ultimately cast them into a lake of fire for all eternity.

He might spank them, send them to their room for the evening, take away their x-box, but NOT disown them.

You know why? BECAUSE THEY ARE HIS KIDS!!!!
If one of his children starting raping the younger ones he wouldn’t let it go on because he his son and nothing he does to the other sons and daughters matters. A good father thinks of all of his children. This is one thing that is easily forgotten. I personally know families who KICKED OUT THE SON who was actively engaging in crime protecting the rest of the offspring. And He was THEIR SON. Were the parents cruel?
 
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You are welcome! It was premiered at the Toronto Film Festival in 2003 :D Wiki says of it: This three-hour, epic, feature film follows John's Gospel precisely, without additions to the story from the other Gospels or omissions of the Gospel's complex passages. And also: This film was created by a constituency of artists from Canada and the United Kingdom, along with academic and theological consultants from around the world. Though, Some have commented that the inclusion of Mary Magdalene at the Last Supper has no Biblical citation.

Enjoy! :)
i just asked a coworker.. he said he saw parts of it and it was great. to bad can not watch it here at work..
 
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How kind of you, Brother. I have missed you and all my family in Christ here. I have two jobs now, trying to keep this house of mine. He is providing, week by week, and I am so grateful.

We are so blessed with Him, Brother. How are you and your family doing?
I am Glad God is providing for you. I pray he can help you where you do not have to work so much. You are blessed putting family first..We are doing great here.. Looking forward to getting away here in a few weeks (if covid 19 does not stop us) and enjoy Gods beautiful creation
 

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Its odd. I have tried other bibles. The NASB, The ESV and other bibles and they all sound weird to me.. I always revert back to NKJ because it is what I am comfortable with And am used to the wording and how it is written..

I wonder if anyone else has this issue with their favorite bible.
I as well. But I always return back to the Bible I grew up on: The NIV.
 

Magenta

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i look forward to seeing it
I am glad :)

Many years ago I attended an evangelical Christian church to view a showing on the life of Christ according to the gospel of Luke. I had been raised in a fairly strict Roman Catholic home, though I was not Christian at the time, and I did not know Jesus - at all. I was in a particularly hurting and broken state then, feeling like a total failure in my life and quite hopeless following, among other things, the breakdown of my marriage subsequent to multiple miscarriages, including the still birth of the child I had gotten married for. I had quit the church half my life-time before this. In fact I was quite set against organized religion, and could not be said to be partial to the Bible in any meaningful way, and yet I was curious to know Who Jesus was, even as I was running from God in rebellion and defiance. I consider myself to have been very lost at that time from my present perspective, but God knew exactly where I was.

During my short time at that church to see the movie (which was being shown in two parts over two Saturday evenings around Passover), and attend a couple of Sunday services, I experienced a Divine intervention/encounter which has become part of my personal testimony.

At some point after watching the movie, I experienced an entire body, mind, and soul experience of God's infilling, being bathed in the Light of His unconditional love and forgiveness for me, and all I had done, realizing all the ways I had messed up my life, all my failings, failures, and mistakes, was seen within His absolute knowledge and understanding of how and why I had become the person I was, illuminated in the Light of His unconditional love and total forgiveness. I felt the fullness, strength, and depth of His love so profoundly, I wept uncontrollably, because I also felt so broken and lost and beyond redemption... and most of all, I felt unworthy.

Though I cherished in my heart the experience of knowing I was loved and forgiven by God (which probably went a long way to saving my life at the time), I did not believe in "that" God, and went on my way from that life-saving experience thinking it was too bad it happened in a church. I had begun a spiritual seeking phase, and carried on in that for another fifteen years, until God once again revealed Himself to me and clearly called me out of what I was doing with another profound and earth-shattering divine intervention, which completely turned my world upside down. Still, even after that clear calling out, my stiff-necked stubbornness was so set against religion, the Bible, and Him, that it took another year following the calling out for me to lay down my opposition and fully surrender my life to Him.

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I am glad :)

Many years ago I attended an evangelical Christian church to view a showing on the life of Christ according to the gospel of Luke. I had been raised in a fairly strict Roman Catholic home, though I was not Christian at the time, and I did not know Jesus - at all. I was in a particularly hurting and broken state then, feeling like a total failure in my life and quite hopeless following, among other things, the breakdown of my marriage subsequent to multiple miscarriages, including the still birth of the child I had gotten married for. I had quit the church half my life-time before this. In fact I was quite set against organized religion, and could not be said to be partial to the Bible in any meaningful way, and yet I was curious to know Who Jesus was, even as I was running from God in rebellion and defiance. I consider myself to have been very lost at that time from my present perspective, but God knew exactly where I was.

During my short time at that church to see the movie (which was being shown in two parts over two Saturday evenings around Passover), and attend a couple of Sunday services, I experienced a Divine intervention/encounter which has become part of my personal testimony.

At some point after watching the movie, I experienced an entire body, mind, and soul experience of God's infilling, being bathed in the Light of His unconditional love and forgiveness for me, and all I had done, realizing all the ways I had messed up my life, all my failings, failures, and mistakes, was seen within His absolute knowledge and understanding of how and why I had become the person I was, illuminated in the Light of His unconditional love and total forgiveness. I felt the fullness, strength, and depth of His love so profoundly, I wept uncontrollably, because I also felt so broken and lost and beyond redemption... and most of all, I felt unworthy.

Though I cherished in my heart the experience of knowing I was loved and forgiven by God (which probably went a long way to saving my life at the time), I did not believe in "that" God, and went on my way from that life-saving experience thinking it was too bad it happened in a church. I had begun a spiritual seeking phase, and carried on in that for another fifteen years, until God once again revealed Himself to me and clearly called me out of what I was doing with another profound and earth-shattering divine intervention, which completely turned my world upside down. Still, even after that clear calling out, my stiff-necked stubbornness was so set against religion, the Bible, and Him, that it took another year following the calling out for me to lay down my opposition and fully surrender my life to Him.

:)
Sadly I think many of us have the same sort of history with God.. I am so blessed you are here.. as we all are.. And thank you for this wonderful testimony
 

Magenta

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Sadly I think many of us have the same sort of history with God.. I am so blessed you are here.. as we all are.. And thank you for this wonderful testimony
You are welcome :) I think it so sad when people unequivocally come against the movie industry, as one person did here recently, saying: the whole entertainment industry belongs to satan :oops: Obviously it does not, when such movies are still being made, and people, including myself, can not only attest to that fact, but also give glory to God regarding His patience with us, knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that He loved me long before I ever loved Him in return :love:

 
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I think the problem is we all make the same mistake the jew's made. We look to the law. And we say, Well I do not commit these sins, or I do not do those things which are unlawful. So i must be a pretty righteous person.
I see it differently, my friend.

The Jews, just like the whole world in Noah’s days, were sinning. They were not looking to the law.

All people on earth have the ability to stop sinning. What they did not have is the ability to say, “I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin” (Proverbs 20:9).

Nothing before Christ’s sacrifice could “purify a peculiar people, zealous of good works” (Titus 2:14) so all people, including Daniel, Isaiah, etc., could never claim to be nothing but guilty of having sinned with their fathers.

Now that we have the perfect sacrifice in Christ, we should walk worthy of that perfect sacrifice (Hebrews 10:14; Ephesians 4:1).

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

(This post is not intended to convert, but to provide additional biblical perspectives).
 

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@Magenta ...
Hi...
Have you ever watched The Book of Acts on YouTube...
I watched it and thought is was really good , great acting , and as far as I know , it stuck to the bible...
I say as far as I know because I watched it not long after I was born again , just wondering if you had seen it...
...xox...
 
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@Magenta ...
Hi...
Have you ever watched The Book of Acts on YouTube...
I watched it and thought is was really good , great acting , and as far as I know , it stuck to the bible...
I say as far as I know because I watched it not long after I was born again , just wondering if you had seen it...
...xox...
It was a good one if I remember, it has been awhile. I will have to watch it again