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Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
It's about returning to willful SIN.
Not about returning to the old testament!
Can't you read!?
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
It's about returning to willful SIN.
Not about returning to the old testament!
Can't you read!?
yes. And in context.
Actually the more straightforward interpretation is that it refers to taking the mark of the beast during the Tribulation.
If you are believer in Jesus at the start of the 7 years, but you chose to take the mark sometime before the end, you will be eternally condemned, with no hope to get back.
If you are believer in Jesus at the start of the 7 years, but you chose to take the mark sometime before the end, you will be eternally condemned, with no hope to get back.
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OSAS is full of them. Or circular logic like if you’re saved you’ll never fall away and if you fall away you were never saved.
Mailmandan said no true christian refuses to confess sin revealed by the Holy Spirit. So I asked if a professing true christian refuses to do so (like those who think all future sins are already forgiven with no confession and repentance required) are they then not tell a true christian? It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t want to think about that one. He just keeps talking about ever confessing which is not what I asked.
Mailmandan said no true christian refuses to confess sin revealed by the Holy Spirit. So I asked if a professing true christian refuses to do so (like those who think all future sins are already forgiven with no confession and repentance required) are they then not tell a true christian? It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t want to think about that one. He just keeps talking about ever confessing which is not what I asked.
I know the theory, VCO. I also know there are Christians whose theology assured them all future sins are already covered and forgiven same as the past ones so there’s no reason to confess. I’m asking if the OSAS crowd still calls them true christians although they are not changed and want to confess sin.
As to the second question, the slant you put on it defies most of the rest of the Bible. Do you want to discuss those scriptures? The scripture you quote from John about hose who left weren’t a part of and say mean those who later leaves were never saved is not referring to leaving being a sign one was never saved. It’s not talking about salvation from the text. If I ask you how you know you will never leave which means you aren’t saved today, you won’t answer, likely. Mailmandan woukdn’t answer that question but instead changed the question.
I don’t dismiss them. I know the OSAS interpretation is wrong. I know the rest of the Bible too. Do you want to discuss those scriptures you will find hard to answer intelligently?
As to the second question, the slant you put on it defies most of the rest of the Bible. Do you want to discuss those scriptures? The scripture you quote from John about hose who left weren’t a part of and say mean those who later leaves were never saved is not referring to leaving being a sign one was never saved. It’s not talking about salvation from the text. If I ask you how you know you will never leave which means you aren’t saved today, you won’t answer, likely. Mailmandan woukdn’t answer that question but instead changed the question.
I don’t dismiss them. I know the OSAS interpretation is wrong. I know the rest of the Bible too. Do you want to discuss those scriptures you will find hard to answer intelligently?
It’s not important to discuss. Stone doesn’t understand that correction can hurt feelings and that a faith that is wrong IS weak already and needs to be “hurt” so that the truth is found. God’s correction hurts. But the end is a strong faith knowing one has the truth. It is not afraid of questions and does not call those who oppose nasty names.
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