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Yes it does.....only you don’t understand it!.
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That does not address what I was asking you[/QUOTE]
Yes it does.....only you don’t understand it!.
You shouldn’t be concerned about what others think....you are letting your feelings get in the way....but I do understand where you are coming from.........
Maybe if I pray for you....in that area..the Lord May strengthen you.
I wouldn’t like to speak for anyone else....just myself.......I keep a lot of what God has done and shown me over the yrs..to myself.....
Your laughter is not going to endure me to answer your inquisition questions. You want to prove to yourself that I know nothing, but I cannot supply evidence towards that goal.
I didn’t say you know nothing........I don’t understand a word you say.....maybe a little,that’s it.......same as you don’t understand me.
JR, I don’t care what you think of me. But I have a responsibility to
Him and He has taught me to be careful when sharing. You see this in the manner of Jesus speaking to people.
To some He gave no answer. To others He refuses to answer the question as worded because they assumed facts not in evidence. God Himself is careful in sharing truth. The Bible says He hides from certain kinds of people. You see evidence of this now in believers who’ve been christians their whole lives and can only repeat their church doctrine. They know salvation and that’s it.
Those verses speak nothing to "losing your salvation". The bottom line is that the elect are never un-elected. But the real underlying question is: By whos or what power do we endure? The answer is quite clear in the Scripture that it is certainly not our own power. The elect are standing in grace, are continuously forgiven of their sins and brought all the way to glorification.
Every last one of them, none of them are lost. Christ can never lose any battle, He never makes a mistake. Those who are "in Christ" will never ever be lost.
I understand you fairly easily. You have decided to follow a teacher here and are becoming like him. He offers you heaven no matter what. He promises you the Holy Spirit won’t leave even if you quench that fire out.
I can only really encourage you to read the Bible as your nr 1 source of what to believe.
Not only that Holy Spirit has taken up residence, but we are a new creation being formed in His image. Whatever we face, He will strengthen us. Give us particular word for our situations.
Tongues is very helpful for it’s our language of power.
I notice you didn’t explain how the verse where Jesus says outright many will fall away from the faith but he who endures to the end will be saved.
I can read it for what it plainly says. EH says it means those who don’t die during the GT won’t die afterwards either which comforts no one.
Then please explain slain from the foundation of the world as you know it.
Answer first your explanation as to why the requirement to be enduring to the end doesn’t apply to you first.
As to your question, a hint ...Jesus wasn’t dead before he was born.
I agree about sharing....I haven’t been able to share my vision that the Lord gave me.
The first three yrs were very hard as I was a new babe and didn’t understand it.
I was also heart broken after leaving the church.....it took a long time to recover...but God in his grace built me up and made me strong in him......nearly six months now..he has brought me back to my vision,which is about to come to pass......I will be glad when it is all over.....28yrs to keep that to oneself......not long now....Praise God.
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I do indeed....and daily He confirms my salvation is
secure because of whom I have trusted .... Jesus who is faithful and true
Not only that Holy Spirit has taken up residence, but we are a new creation being formed in His image. Whatever we face, He will strengthen us. Give us particular word for our situations.
Tongues is very helpful for it’s our language of power.
Amen....I speak in tongues....but haven’t felt the Lord ask me too........apparently many yrs ago I was drunk.....the ambulance crew were called...my son told me I was speaking in a foreign language to the crew.....maybe it was tongues.
Because I can’t speak in any foreign language.
I believe each one of us that believes in the finished work of the Cross of Jesus the Messiah would never stray because we are His work. And we have unity in the foundation. That’s the new birth. Born from above, citizens now of heaven. We say the same thing. Obviously, His work for man can never be fully unified unless placed “in Him”.
That should be the measuring stick.
Translation: you have no treasures to share. You’re simply a tare who’s sole purpose is to sow discord among Christian brethren. Even Jackie sees this, and that says a lot.