Pray for a COVID 19 Vaccine to be made available ASAP!

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GaryA said:
Yes - no doubt this can happen.

But, following this same reasoning, why do the experts say that COVID19 is "different" than the flu (not similar enough to confuse the two - so as to be certain that it is "not the flu") yet diagnose it based on flu symptoms???

Is that not essentially what they are saying and doing?
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I am not understanding the question. Isn't one of the tests a nasal swab that gets sent to the lab for a diagnosis? They don't tell you that you have COVID because you have flu like symptoms. They suspect an infection and test you for an infection based on flu like symptoms they don't diagnose you based on flu like symptoms.
I must be misunderstanding your question.
 
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I am not understanding the question. Isn't one of the tests a nasal swab that gets sent to the lab for a diagnosis? They don't tell you that you have COVID because you have flu like symptoms. They suspect an infection and test you for an infection based on flu like symptoms they don't diagnose you based on flu like symptoms.
I must be misunderstanding your question.
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How/Why is it that they [should] suspect a COVID infection strictly based on flu symptoms?

They are essentially saying:

"We think you have COVID because you have flu-like symptoms."
 
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GaryA said:
How/Why is it that they [should] suspect a COVID infection strictly based on flu symptoms?

They are essentially saying:

"We think you have COVID because you have flu-like symptoms."
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And they have never proven that the COVID test will give a positive result for a COVID virus (i.e. if the virus exists, because the virus itself has never been isolated and proven to cause the disease) and that the same test will give a negative result for the flu, the common cold, tuberculosis, lung cancer or a host of respiratory ailments. They might as well check to see if you have a runny nose or a cough for all the good the test is doing.
 
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GaryA said:
How/Why is it that they [should] suspect a COVID infection strictly based on flu symptoms?

They are essentially saying:

"We think you have COVID because you have flu-like symptoms."
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Moses_Young said:
And they have never proven that the COVID test will give a positive result for a COVID virus (i.e. if the virus exists, because the virus itself has never been isolated and proven to cause the disease) and that the same test will give a negative result for the flu, the common cold, tuberculosis, lung cancer or a host of respiratory ailments. They might as well check to see if you have a runny nose or a cough for all the good the test is doing.
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:rolleyes:
 
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Moses_Young said:
And they have never proven that the COVID test will give a positive result for a COVID virus (i.e. if the virus exists, because the virus itself has never been isolated and proven to cause the disease) and that the same test will give a negative result for the flu, the common cold, tuberculosis, lung cancer or a host of respiratory ailments. They might as well check to see if you have a runny nose or a cough for all the good the test is doing.
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It does not help any that the COVID test has a propensity for false-positives - because, it is based on a common-thread reaction that is related to many different ailments - instead of being singularly-distinguishable from all that is not uniquely COVID...

(Perhaps just another way to say what you said.)
 
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It's all over the internet that the plans for the vaccine is not good, but whether that is true or not. I don't know.
There has been a spike again in Aus and people are out again buying up the toilet paper. They have had to place restrictions on items again in the supermarket.
 
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Ruby123 said:
It's all over the internet that the plans for the vaccine is not good, but whether that is true or not. I don't know.
There has been a spike again in Aus and people are out again buying up the toilet paper. They have had to place restrictions on items again in the supermarket.
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The spike is completely meaningless.

The virus has lost what supposed virulence it had. Even the elderly are now getting it and recovering just fine.

As if you had a bad cold or light flu. So to reiterate, the spike doesn’t matter. It’s always been, from the beginning, about this evil vaccine, and their plan to kill and control people.

DONT take it!!
 
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PennEd said:
The spike is completely meaningless.

The virus has lost what supposed virulence it had. Even the elderly are now getting it and recovering just fine.

As if you had a bad cold or light flu. So to reiterate, the spike doesn’t matter. It’s always been, from the beginning, about this evil vaccine, and their plan to kill and control people.

DONT take it!!
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Yeah I saw the Robert Breaker video on the vaccine. Did you see that one??
 
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GaryA said:
It does not help any that the COVID test has a propensity for false-positives - because, it is based on a common-thread reaction that is related to many different ailments - instead of being singularly-distinguishable from all that is not uniquely COVID...

(Perhaps just another way to say what you said.)
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If they send the sample to a lab and find COVID RNA then it is not another ailment.
 
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PennEd said:
The spike is completely meaningless.

The virus has lost what supposed virulence it had. Even the elderly are now getting it and recovering just fine.

As if you had a bad cold or light flu. So to reiterate, the spike doesn’t matter. It’s always been, from the beginning, about this evil vaccine, and their plan to kill and control people.

DONT take it!!
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Agreed. The spike is only there because they've started testing people with symptoms again. As stated, most everyone with flu-like symptoms (or even lung cancer) will test positive for COVID-1984, if they are tested. The thing is, they haven't been testing (sick) people, because they only test when you've been in contact with someone who likewise tested positive. Now that they've gotten the ball rolling again by testing the sick, the numbers are going to increase exponentially due to people with colds and flu.

They've approached this problem most unscientifically, and its sad that the bulk of the nation are so scientifically illiterate that they don't realise. The leading scientists, doctors, economists etc. who point this out are threatened with losing their jobs, so they might point it once, and not again after the threats. Welcome to communo-fascism.
 
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If they send the sample to a lab and find COVID RNA then it is not another ailment.
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How do you know? Have you (or they) proven that "COVID RNA" is not present in the other sicknesses? As the answer is no, to claim this is inaccurate at best.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Agreed. The spike is only there because they've started testing people with symptoms again. As stated, most everyone with flu-like symptoms (or even lung cancer) will test positive for COVID-1984, if they are tested. The thing is, they haven't been testing (sick) people, because they only test when you've been in contact with someone who likewise tested positive. Now that they've gotten the ball rolling again by testing the sick, the numbers are going to increase exponentially due to people with colds and flu.

They've approached this problem most unscientifically, and its sad that the bulk of the nation are so scientifically illiterate that they don't realise. The leading scientists, doctors, economists etc. who point this out are threatened with losing their jobs, so they might point it once, and not again after the threats. Welcome to communo-fascism.
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You people scare me.
 
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GaryA said:
How/Why is it that they [should] suspect a COVID infection strictly based on flu symptoms?

They are essentially saying:

"We think you have COVID because you have flu-like symptoms."
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Moses_Young said:
And they have never proven that the COVID test will give a positive result for a COVID virus (i.e. if the virus exists, because the virus itself has never been isolated and proven to cause the disease) and that the same test will give a negative result for the flu, the common cold, tuberculosis, lung cancer or a host of respiratory ailments. They might as well check to see if you have a runny nose or a cough for all the good the test is doing.
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You seem to be making the (false) assertion that these two statements are mutually exclusive. They are not.
 
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All flue vaccines make people sick, people take the latest flue vaccine and get the flue .. I don't take flue vaccines and I watch people who do get sick every time including doctors and nurses .. God didn't pack us a lunch with needles with vaccines for 6000 years .. But the big question is ,
If you have faith in vaccines from billionaires who have sworn to depopulate earth by billions of people AND if you take your vaccine then why do you make it mandatory for me and my children in a country built on freedom and liberty .. Who are U ? TAKE YOUR VACCINES AND FEED THEM TO YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN .. You will be fine just leave me alone and let me decide .. Let me be stupid in your eyes and we'll see who laughs last .. Why worry about me if you've taken your recommended vaccines, I'll even be happy to keep paying my tax for you to have all you want of them and you receive your protection
 
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Sounds believable but it is not true. There is no junk poisons in vaccines. It is a false accusation that has not one shred of science to back it up. It's almost like certain personalities WANT to believe that is so and when they read the medical data that explains what is in it and how it is not what they thought it was they get mad and refuse to believe it. Instead of being relieved they say THEY ARE LIARS. You cannot make them believe that God may have given us knowledge to create vaccines so that our own immune system can create antibodies (that is all natural by the way) to kill a certain virus if it invades us that no amount of orange juice or any other food item has ever been able to do or will do. You see your body does not create these antibodies that attack the antigen of a certain virus from food items you take in. That has never happened. Once people understand that some of them start being more friendly toward vaccines.
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I’m a little undecided. First I will say vaccines used to be stabilized with mercury. They suspected they had something to do with autism when they calculated the measure given at two years old was enough to cause mercury poisoning. Regardless, you think the Lord equipped us with the intelligence to make vaccines, so He promotes them. He discredits this by interfering with the Tower of Babel construction. We also possess the technology to refine sugar and deliver pornography to every house. Both are horrible. What if illnesses and diseases are in fact part of God’s plan. With no natural enemies there is nothing stopping the spread of humanity like cancer across the globe. Death and natural selection and infertility are all ways to keep genetics producing healthy populations. The way I see it our Father could have stopped these viruses before they started. He didn’t. Bodily death isn’t an issue for God. Spiritual death is. Perhaps instead of praying for a vaccine we should pray that the lost will find Christ before death finds them. We should accept our fate as God’s will. I continue to make each day count because it may be my last. I have no desire to extend my life. I desire only to equip my children and pass on my knowledge and wisdom. To those in Christ an untimely death is like early retirement. It’s not a tragedy, it’s an upgrade!
 
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Y'all reject science.
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Like the big bang that changes every 5-10 yrs or evolution that can cost your job in about all learning institutions if you don't comply .. Or even eating eggs, they're good, they're bad, back and forth for yrs .
 
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Until they took prayer out of school in 1962, I think, everyone pretty much trusted their teachers and such but it's turned into ''you better find out for yourself anymore''
 
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