Not By Works

[VCO]

John 17:11, Jesus praying:

I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.

Very GOOD ANSWER!

So does she NOT believe that JESUS is GOD in the Flesh? Or That GOD Did Not Answer His Prayer? OR BOTH?

 

[EleventhHour]

Go lecture yourself deceiver!

If only she would heed this advice ...from two weeks ago!!!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No it doesn’t say that.

It says whosoever commits sin is of the devil.

Let God be true and every man a liar (Romans 3:4).

so he meant it in chapter 3 but not in chapter 1

You my friend are hurting your own argument

its also funny how the same greek word translated commits here, (poieo)is used in john 2: 29

29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.

so you tell me. Why in chapter 2 is it translated "practice" and yet it is not translated the same in chapter 3?

Not to mention context.. Living as the world vs living as a child.

yeah.. As you said let God be true and every man a liar.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

You my friend are hurting your own argument

its also funny how the same greek word translated commits here, (poieo)is used in john 2: 29

I’m not presenting my arguments here. Just the plain truth of the scripture.

I have a translated Bible. Talk to me when you find one.

In the mean time don’t lecture me about Greek words and “tenses”.

 

[EleventhHour]

You claim is blatantly false. The authors were addressing believers and believers only. Do you need the salutations from them to be able to see you error? Read who Paul, Peter and John were addressing. You don’t know the Bible well or you would know that. Does make believing OSAS a whole lot easier, I admit.

You really do not understand what @Magenta stated at all?

Your response completely unrelated to her statement.

 

[jackrosie]

As Paul said in romans. Our flesh is still there. The fact we do
Not trust God 100% in all areas of our lives means we will still fail. And when we do it is sin

Oh right...that is really interesting...thanks for explaining bro....once again a post that doesn’t have to be complicated to understand it..x

 

[posthuman]

See Romans 7:5

It is already very well established that you don't comprehend Romans 7.

You don't need to reinforce that by suggesting it is set against itself.

 

[EleventhHour]

I’m not presenting my arguments here. Just the plain truth of the scripture.

I have a translated Bible. Talk to me when you find one.

In the mean time don’t lecture me about Greek words and “tenses”.

Of course not... why would we lecture you... they have no application in the way you read scripture, no regard for context, no regard for the tenses, no regard for the literary devices, no regard for the big picture.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I’m not presenting my arguments here. Just the plain truth of the scripture.

I have a translated Bible. Talk to me when you find one.

In the mean time don’t lecture me about Greek words and “tenses”.

Yet you presented no truth

And I will
Lecture you about the Greek whenever it is applicable. And I never used tenses I spoke of the same greeknword used in two different places by the same author yet translated differently

Of course you have shown you will not listen to
Anything that may hint you are wrong so whatever

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Of course not... why would we lecture you... they have no application in the way you read scripture, no regard for context, no regard for the tenses, no regard for the literary devices, no regard for the big picture.

It’s only truth to him if it agrees with him

 

[Micaiah-imla]

Of course you have shown you will not listen to
Anything that may hint you are wrong so whatever

I will not listen to any reasoning against the truth of scripture.

 

[DorothyMae]

Well you can help yourself by backing up and calming down.

Pretty funny. I didn’t want to insert a laughing emocon lest you misinterpret it. That’s a good one!

 

[Micaiah-imla]

It’s only truth to him if it agrees with him

No.

If it agrees with scripture.

 

[jackrosie]

Your peace is in self not God

If you were in Christ. You would not be excusing your sin you would be praising god for his grace

EG....when I don’t trust God in a situation...which I’m in at the moment..I’ve been going my own way....I should hand it over to him and ask him to help me trust him in that area....is that right?

 

[DorothyMae]

Yes, and over time others see your character and then when they reveal what they see of you, to you, you complain bitterly and claim they do not know you.

But they don’t. It’s like the guys calling Jesus a drunkard. Doesn’t make it so cause you or they claimed to see it. And I bet you cannot offer a single piece of evidence. Not one.

“Blessed are you when men speak evil of you falsely.” I know what that verse means.

 

[DorothyMae]

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders.

Revelation 2:2 2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Agree and all of these are character qualities that. and from many wrong choices. God did not fail these people. They refused to obey.

 

[DorothyMae]

EG....when I don’t trust God in a situation...which I’m in at the moment..I’ve been going my own way....I should hand it over to him and ask him to help me trust him in that area....is that right?

The best is to ask God what you are to do and the do it.

 

[jackrosie]

Agree and all of these are character qualities that. and from many wrong choices. God did not fail these people. They refused to obey.

DorothyMae..do you know that a true born again can never be plucked from the hand of Jesus?

If you don’t believe that....then you deny scripture...so insult God are you aware of that?

 

[jackrosie]

The best is to ask God what you are to do and the do it.

God speaks to me through EG....a lot of the time....he is led by the spirit..he is a true born again....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No.

If it agrees with scripture.

well yours does not agree.. so you must have a different bible

if we claim we have no sin we are decieved.

Thats you correct?