Not By Works

[EleventhHour]

I came on here as a guest and saw dcontroversal post to you....and he did say that......he must have deleted it....because it is no longer here.....I’m sure admin can check that one out for you.
Actually his post is still there....he said no one listens to your dribble.

Here is where it started .. he deleted nothing and he never stated "read" and I pointed it out to you several times and you could accept the correction.


Do you see how @DorothyMae is affecting you .. seriously Think!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Yet born again is in the Bible. John 3. Unless you are born again....

And belief is the requirement!

 

[jackrosie]

Here is where it started .. he deleted nothing and he never stated "read" and I pointed it out to you several times and you could accept the correction.


Do you see how @DorothyMae is affecting you .. seriously Think!!!

I also corrected what I said about him...or did you miss that post...I also quoted his post again you missed that.

DorothyMae is not affecting me....you are....with your constant bashing of her and her belief....if she is teaching false doctrine.....why hasn’t she been banned?

That is my question.

I don’t believe most of what she teaches....just a little...

 

[jackrosie]

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Don't limit GOD TO THE BIBLE she said .....WOW....so now GOD has been relegated to what ever we want him to be....the bible is not the rule of faith and practice and we can reject what it absolutely says about salvation and come up withbout own WAYS OF BEING SAVED......we don't need the BIBLE which is the MIND OF CHRIST....no wonder you consistently oppose the truth we have been leveling at both you and DM........WOW.....!

jackrosie said:
False.....I will find scripture to support what I say.....and you sir don’t know how God saves....like I said don’t limit God to the bible

God is everywhere......He is a real person..and loves a relationship with his children.

 

[EleventhHour]

I also corrected what I said about him...or did you miss that post...I also quoted his post again you missed that.

DorothyMae is not affecting me....you are....with your constant bashing of her and her belief....if she is teaching false doctrine.....why hasn’t she been banned?

That is my question.

I don’t believe most of what she teaches....just a little...

Yes I missed that post.

 

[jackrosie]

Anyway I am going to bed...goodnight.

 

[VCO]

What did you want me to explain? The OSAS camp can only dig out isolated sentences that have nothing to do with salvation ignoring the warnings. Those opposed can post long passages that warn.

Every OSAS BELIEVER can explain what BORN AGAIN actually is, AND IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION! Also all of our answers will be VERY SIMILAR. SO ARE YOU READY TO KNOW WHAT IT MEANS to be BORN AGAIN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO CLING TO YOUR DOGMA ?

There is not shame in not knowing what HE meant by Born Again, their is only shame in not Knowing, BUT REFUSING TO LISTEN.
Ask and I will be willing to explain in simple terms.

John 3:2-12 (NIV)
2 He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4 "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water
{Referencing the breaking of water at Natural birth} and the Spirit.
6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
7 You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.'
8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
9 "How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
10 "You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things?
11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen,
but still you people do not accept our testimony.
12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

 

[dcontroversal]

.....and don’t limit God to the bible......

This quote is 100% contrary to scripture!

 

[jackrosie]

This quote is 100% contrary to scripture!

Psalm 139:7

Where can I go from your spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens you are there.

God is everywhere....surely you know that?..you can’t contain God is what I meant.you twist and turn everything that some people post.....anyway this time I am going to bed.

 

[dcontroversal]

Anyway...My bible is clear enough...THE WORD OF GOD FOUND IN THE BIBLE is our ONLY RULE OF FAITH and Practice.........back to the topic at hand...

NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to his mercy HAS HE SAVED US....

How are we saved BIBLICALLY....BY THE WORD OF GOD...

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ... So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

It is absolutely contrary to say that ONE CAN BE SAVED WITHOUT THE WORD OF GOD.......

The people that devalue Jesus, his truth, his blood, his promises, the wors of God, etc....are rank and file deep!

 

[VCO]

Stand up to your claim! Why does God allow people including his children to sin?

I said no OSAS believer can claim to know what God does and why. You took exception to that statement so let’s see if you know the answer to this one.

That is an UNTRUE Statement. MOST of OSAS BELIEVERS, are ALSO Born Again Believers. AND WE KNOW HIM INTIMATELY AND PERSONALLY, BECAUSE HE IS IN US, LITERALLY, AND WE ARE IN HIS SPIRITUAL BODY, LITERALLY.

 

[walknlight]

With all my being. But of course I read all he said, not just the pleasant bits.

Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Luke 15:5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
Luke 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

God Bless....

 

[dcontroversal]

Psalm 139:7

Where can I go from your spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens you are there.

God is everywhere....surely you know that?..you can’t contain God is what I meant.

Listen.....you are conflating two ideas......my point is simple.....NO ONE, according to the BIBLE can be saved WITHOUT the gospel MESSAGE......that is the point of the following set of verses which were INSPIRED OF GOD!

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. [ How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ... So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[dcontroversal]

Psalm 139:7

Where can I go from your spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens you are there.

God is everywhere....surely you know that?..you can’t contain God is what I meant.you twist and turn everything that some people post.....anyway this time I am going to bed.

Furthermore....GOD IS DEFINED by HIS WORD which is the MIND OF CHRIST....we have NOTHING other than the word OF GOD to define God, his character, nature, what he wants us to know etc......WE cannot go outside the "source material" to define our ways and practice.....that is my point!

 

[jackrosie]

Listen.....you are conflating two ideas......my point is simple.....NO ONE, according to the BIBLE can be saved WITHOUT the gospel MESSAGE......that is the point of the following set of verses which were INSPIRED OF GOD!

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. [ How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ... So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

And you listen.....God drew me his way...I cried out to Jesus...a long personal story of sobbing between myself and God ,..like I said I don’t answer to you....you may quote scripture very well....but I also have my doubts about you...

 

[dcontroversal]

And you listen.....God drew me his way...I cried out to Jesus...a long personal story of sobbing between myself and God ,..like I said I don’t answer to you....you may quote scripture very well....but I also have my doubts about you...

Doubt me all you want....don't doubt the word!!! AND nowhere did I even IMPLY you answer to me.

And the word say this...

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ...So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[walknlight]

Hi again,

Stone, you might surprised at how practical Jesus was when he asked for obedience. Simple commands whose obeying or not is clearly measured. Wash, drop
your nets here, go there, take nothing, show yourself to
the priest. Not very spiritual. And yet powerful if followed.

You do agree that Yeshua (Jesus) is God?
He orders the step of men and men are moved to do His will, by His Spirit, there is no "if".
To add, it is all spiritual, according to Ephesians...we are told exactly what we "wrestle" with...
The flesh profits nothing.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

God Bless

 

[Duskey]

If you want to ask me a question Duskey please do so......if you don’t hear back

I love mute women ❤️😎

 

[jackrosie]

Dusky I have you on ignore,but saw your post as a guest.

Those were not my words to you..you added the Dusky....and I can assure you this woman ain’t mute....
And don’t misquote me..you gain nothing by it.

 

[EleventhHour]

Furthermore....GOD IS DEFINED by HIS WORD which is the MIND OF CHRIST....we have NOTHING other than the word OF GOD to define God, his character, nature, what he wants us to know etc......WE cannot go outside the "source material" to define our ways and practice.....that is my point!

Amen!

It gives great comfort and assurance to know God has given us "source material" about Him we can trust.

Coming out a false system I was so thrilled to have a reliable source from which I could learn and draw my understanding of Him.
What a joy and relief it was......... as a new born again believer to immerse myself in His word.... I could not stop!

I am lucky I did not flunk out of school!!