HOW MANY HOURS WAS JESUS DEAD ON THE CROSS?

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Adstar

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Perhaps just inadvertence ... check out Post #16.
Yeah post 16 was my post::

Well you are indeed correct that the Biblical Passover starts at sundown.. As Bible days in the Bible start at sundown.. On the first passover day the Hebrews first ate the Lamb after having smeared it's blood over the door posts.. Then the next Morning ( which was still the day of penitcost for it did not end till evening came) the started their journy out of Israel..
Why don't you just explain what issue you have with my stance?? I don't really like having to dig the issue out of people.. It's laborious and very frustrating.. So please just tell me in detail what you are pointing to?????
 
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Why don't you just explain what issue you have with my stance?? I don't really like having to dig the issue out of people.. It's laborious and very frustrating.. So please just tell me in detail what you are pointing to?????
Like I said ... probably inadvertence on your part:
Adstar said:
Well you are indeed correct that the Biblical Passover starts at sundown.. As ll days in the Bible start at sundown.. On the first passover day the Hebrews first ate the Lamb after having smeared it's blood over the door posts.. Then the next borning ( which was still the day of penitcost for it did not end till evening came) the started their journy out of Israel..
The next morning after Passover is the Feast of Unleavened bread.


Leviticus 23:

5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
 

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Something never occurred to me so I will ask now. Is the Lunar calendar always in the same order daily? I mean is the 15th always on the sixth day? Just wondering.

I just consulted my Hebrew calendar and I find the days change. With this in mind, depending on the year, the preparation for the specia Sabbath of Passover could have been any day of the wekk.....;
 

JaumeJ

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#25
Above should read Special sabbath of the Passover.
 

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MyrtleTrees,
re: "I found that He was put on the cross at 12 PM. That represents the Jewish time term, '6th hour'."

But as has been touched on previously, Matthew 15:25 says that it was the third hour.
 

MyrtleTrees

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Is not every day preceding any of the Sabbaths a day of preparation for the Sabbat? Let me know...
I wondered about that too. It isn't called that in the Old Testament though. I'll have to guess that in this case, since the main emphasis of His death seems to be the Passover day. I know that preparation for the Passover meal was made in the evening, as that's when they killed the Passover lamb in Old Testament times.
 

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MyrtleTrees,
re: "I found that He was put on the cross at 12 PM. That represents the Jewish time term, '6th hour'."

But as has been touched on previously, Matthew 15:25 says that it was the third hour.
Yes, it was in the evening, as you say. I was confused for a while. Online clocks can't be trusted either, I've found. Plus reading the stories of HIs crucifixion again today, I am again puzzled. For various reasons on the subject. For example, the writers of the gospel differ somewhat in their accounts of HIs crucifixion, etc.
Mark 15:25

25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.
KJV
Oh well!
 

JaumeJ

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There are laws for preparing for the Sabbath...………...ergo the day before any Sabbath was called a day of preparation or preparation day.
 

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Like I said ... probably inadvertence on your part:

The next morning after Passover is the Feast of Unleavened bread.

Leviticus 23:

5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Ok i miss typed Pentecost when i meant Passover.. My apologies..
 
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I would say that the spiritual understanding must be applied .

When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. John11:4

In the parable the Holy Spirit puts Lazarus a sleep for four days for the purpose of the unseen glory of God. Three days were used with Jesus.

Teaching us if Lazarus was asleep for four. Jesus falls into the category of possibilities .

Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.John11:12-14

He explains that the death of a new creature is not dead to never to rise to new spirit life for a believer. That kind of dead is for those who have "no faith" needed to rise Both their temporal body and temporal spirit both perish never to rise to new life.

One of the difficulties today is men attribute those who die without receiving a new spirit, never rise. . . that somehow they keep sufferings as if they did have a eternal spirit.. removing the letter of the law, death.

The removal of the sting of death . "You shall surely not die look at me Ssssss and live."

When the father gave words to Jesus the apostle. The words awoke him from his sleep just, as the wake up call with Lazarus. The father having removed the stone the Son of man. Jesus the prophet walked out. Having finished the three day demonstration a work of the Father and Son.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
 

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I would say that the spiritual understanding must be applied .

When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. John11:4

In the parable the Holy Spirit puts Lazarus a sleep for four days for the purpose of the unseen glory of God. Three days were used with Jesus.

Teaching us if Lazarus was asleep for four. Jesus falls into the category of possibilities .

Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.John11:12-14

He explains that the death of a new creature is not dead to never to rise to new spirit life for a believer. That kind of dead is for those who have "no faith" needed to rise Both their temporal body and temporal spirit both perish never to rise to new life.

One of the difficulties today is men attribute those who die without receiving a new spirit, never rise. . . that somehow they keep sufferings as if they did have a eternal spirit.. removing the letter of the law, death.

The removal of the sting of death . "You shall surely not die look at me Ssssss and live."

When the father gave words to Jesus the apostle. The words awoke him from his sleep just, as the wake up call with Lazarus. The father having removed the stone the Son of man. Jesus the prophet walked out. Having finished the three day demonstration a work of the Father and Son.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Yes, God gives the gift of eternal life in heaven to true believers. Those who die without the Lord, have eternal life too - but in hell. Jesus never raised dead people to life, who were not believers.
 
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Thanks! I spent several days now, studying over the story of Jesus' crucifixion. It was confusing and difficult at times, to get it all to make perfect sense. But I think I've improved on that by this time. I found that He was put on the cross at 12 PM. That represents the Jewish time term, "6th hour" - I found out, online. And I found that Jesus died at 3 AM, as you said! According to the Jewish calendar, that was "the 9th hour."

Matt 27:46

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
KJV
And yes, Joseph of Arimathea - buried Jesus that night, since the authorities had forbidden that any of the bodies be buried on "the day of preparation". Now, what the "day of preparation" was - is still unclear to me. Though it appears to have been on a Sabbath.
John 19:31

31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away
KJV
Mark 15:25 tells of it was at the third hour 9am, in my opinion Pilate placed the sign on the tee post at the six hour.
 

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I believe Jesus gave up the ghost at the exact time He fulfilled all that was needed up to that point. Just before giving up the ghost, Jesus stated "it is finished".

As far as your Jewish time clock, the clock you posted is accurate and is based on a 12 hour day. There is also the 12 hours of night. Scripture talks about "night watches". That is another timetable that should be looked into if you are interested.
Well maybe it was an accurate clock I found. But if so, it doesn't correlate with the time the Passover Lamb was to be eaten in Old Testament times, which was said to be in the evening. And any remainders of it were to be disposed of being morning.
Lev 23:5

5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.
KJV
Another odd fact I observed, is that there seems to have been 2 different Passover meals - just several days apart in the story of His crucifixion. He was arrested on the first Passover. And maybe He died on the 2nd Passover. Maybe they'd developed the practice of holding 2 different Passover feasts, just days apart.
 
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Well maybe it was an accurate clock I found. But if so, it doesn't correlate with the time the Passover Lamb was to be eaten in Old Testament times, which was said to be in the evening. And any remainders of it were to be disposed of being morning.
Lev 23:5

5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.
KJV
Another odd fact I observed, is that there seems to have been 2 different Passover meals - just several days apart in the story of His crucifixion. He was arrested on the first Passover. And maybe He died on the 2nd Passover. Maybe they'd developed the practice of holding 2 different Passover feasts, just days apart.
I believe Jesus died on Passover and His body was removed from the cross by Joseph of Arimathaea and Nicodemus. They wrapped His body in linen and spices, and placed His body in a sephulchre (John 19:38-40).



 
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Watchman Nee (in a book I'm reading) sounds like he said Jesus was on the cross for 6 hours.
"So far as the experience of co-death in the Christian life is concerned, it is mainly included in this representative period six hours."
I checked the account of the Passover on this matter, in Numbers 9.
Num 9:3
3 In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in his appointed season: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it.
KJV
Num 9:12
12 They shall leave none of it unto the morning, nor break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it.
KJV
But according to this chart I found online, it sounds like He was dead on the cross for 3 hours, judging by the details of the Passover, as to having started in the evening, and that eating of it was to finish before morning. So maybe he guessed a bit incorrectly, as to how long Jesus was dead on the cross.
https://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/Hebrew
The book I read had him dead on Wednesday and already up come early Sunday.
 

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Well maybe it was an accurate clock I found. But if so, it doesn't correlate with the time the Passover Lamb was to be eaten in Old Testament times, which was said to be in the evening. And any remainders of it were to be disposed of being morning.
Lev 23:5

5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.
KJV
Another odd fact I observed, is that there seems to have been 2 different Passover meals - just several days apart in the story of His crucifixion. He was arrested on the first Passover. And maybe He died on the 2nd Passover. Maybe they'd developed the practice of holding 2 different Passover feasts, just days apart.
Jesus observed Passover on the correct Night.. Biblical days start at sundown and end at sundown.. So the night comes before the day.. So on the night of the 14th Jesus observed Passover with his apostles then he went to the garden and was arrested on the same night .. When morning came he was sentenced to death and died in the afternoon of the 14th Passover.. The Jews had the Passover meal at the wrong time.. They had the Passover meal on the night of the 15th.. And as far as i know they still do..
 
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Jesus observed Passover on the correct Night.. Biblical days start at sundown and end at sundown.. So the night comes before the day.. So on the night of the 14th Jesus observed Passover with his apostles then he went to the garden and was arrested on the same night .. When morning came he was sentenced to death and died in the afternoon of the 14th Passover.. The Jews had the Passover meal at the wrong time.. They had the Passover meal on the night of the 15th.. And as far as i know they still do..
I was taught Jesus did not die on the weekly Passover. But that there's a Sabbath day called a high day that is a special sabbath that can occur on any day of the week, and not just Saturday. I don't know anything more about this. We do all realize we can't get 72 hours from the way most Churches teach it.
 
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I was taught Jesus did not die on the weekly Passover. But that there's a Sabbath day called a high day that is a special sabbath that can occur on any day of the week, and not just Saturday. I don't know anything more about this. We do all realize we can't get 72 hours from the way most Churches teach it.
I do not agree. I see nothing in the Scriptures that say Jesus was killed in the morning after they arrested him.