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We all stray from time to time but he looks to the heart of a person I can't even begin to count the times I have strayed from him but he is always waiting and calling for us to return. The salvation and the fruits of a person is not based on their strength or their wisdom or the ability to produce fruits as with everything in both faith and in life it begins and ends with the heart. This goes back to the seeds and soil, you can show fruits at first but the thorns and rocks will make them wither.
I think the reason a persons heart is not yet fully prepared to truly produce fruits is because God wants to be first he wants children who will seek him out all day every day, children who have that hunger and crave to know him and have him and devlop a kind of love with him not just for him but with him that goes beyond that of the average believer, it wasn't until everything in my life was garbage to me that I was able to truly come to him and I don't think that was an accident.
I think the reason a persons heart is not yet fully prepared to truly produce fruits is because God wants to be first he wants children who will seek him out all day every day, children who have that hunger and crave to know him and have him and devlop a kind of love with him not just for him but with him that goes beyond that of the average believer, it wasn't until everything in my life was garbage to me that I was able to truly come to him and I don't think that was an accident.
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You talk about faith being in your head, I talk about TRUE FAITH BEING IN YOUR HEART.
That is the OPPOSITE of what I KNOW IS THE TRUTH. And so much of your theology cross-grains with our beliefs.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but You swiftly became OSAS hater.
Usually I can feel a kindred spirit with someone who REALLY IS SAVED after talking to them for awhile. I do not have that with you, so yes I do have a real doubt if you have truly been BORN AGAIN.
TELL ME, in your own words, HOW YOU WERE BORN AGAIN, and HOW YOU KNOW IT WAS REAL ? ? ?
I am not wanting you to quote scripture, but openly and honestly TELL ME HOW IT HAPPENED.
You seem to me like the TYPE of disciple that only said the sinners prayer in their head, AND are on the Broad Road leading to Destruction, thinking they are a Christian. Show me I am wrong by your answers to my questions.
Just so you know, that is me:
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See what I mean, YOU BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE of ME.
JUDAS did not Cast out Demons, or Heal the SICK, he was content with carrying the money box.
Yes He sent them out two by two, so the other disciple with him did the miracles, NOT JUDAS:
John 12:6 (NCV)
6 But Judas did not really care about the poor; he said this because he was a thief. He was the one who kept the money box, and he often stole from it.
Matthew 12:26 (NCV)
26 And if Satan forces out himself, then Satan is divided against himself, and his kingdom will not continue.
John 17:12 (NCV)
12 While I was with them, I kept them safe by the power of your name, the name you gave me. I protected them, and only one of them, the one worthy of destruction, was lost so that the Scripture would come true.
Same here....this worldly Kum Ba Yah love peddled by false religionists, salvation losers and Jesus devaluers is no where near biblical! Nor will I embrace anyone that peddles a gospel that has no power to save a flea, much less a man......love and truth go hand in hand.....and this skewed mushy worldly love has crept into the Lord's churches and watered down the truth and the absolute stance we are to make against false teachers that make two fold the disciples of hell!
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