Is YOUR church doctrinal statement ONE with SATAN?

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SoulWeaver

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The spirit that's telling you that all bibles contain error IS NOT the Holy Spirit. I'm not giving you MY OPINION to guide you into all truth, I'm telling you that God's word DOES NOT corrupt.
Then by that logic all translations should be without error... But they are not... The originally spoken Word remained without corruption and we can look into it today, isn't that enough? I love KJV it's my favorite so don't get me wrong, but I wonder how do you reconcile the errors in KJV and also the fact that some things were apparently translated from Latin and not the original text?
 
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Then by that logic all translations should be without error... But they are not... The originally spoken Word remained without corruption and we can look into it today, isn't that enough? I love KJV it's my favorite so don't get me wrong, but I wonder how do you reconcile the errors in KJV and also the fact that some things were apparently translated from Latin and not the original text?
There are no errors in the KJV. There are places where the KJV varies from the copies of the original Greek that people consider to be errors but the copies of the originals aren't the "gold standard", those originals were written over 2000 years ago to a culture not even close to the cultures of English speaking people of today.
 
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There are no errors in the KJV. There are places where the KJV varies from the copies of the original Greek that people consider to be errors but the copies of the originals aren't the "gold standard", those originals were written over 2000 years ago to a culture not even close to the cultures of English speaking people of today.
I've come to the conclusion that you are just having a laugh at our expense.
No-one can be seriously fanatically convinced that the KJV is God's precious accurate English translation.
Nice one!
 

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I'm not going to continue this conversation. You obviously won't accept facts so what's the point.

I'm not going to answer questions about my personal beliefs. Why should I?

Repeat ... I generally have eggs for breakfast and they are always brown. The other day my wife brought home a dozen eggs that were white! I said to her that these can't be real eggs since they're not like the ones I have always eaten. No matter how hard she tried to convince me I knew, absolutely, that real eggs are brown. Different colored eggs can't be as real as the brown eggs I have always eaten.

What is the matter with KJVOs, yourself included? Every English Bible is a translation; every one has its purpose; and it's impossible for any translation to be perfect.

God told Eve that she and Adam could eat from any tree in the garden except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Like KJVOs she let her own desire for knowledge of what is good and evil run away with her.
My late second wife preferred the brown eggs over the white ones too. I agree with your estimation on translations for every one has its purpose in expressing the Word of God.
 
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I've come to the conclusion that you are just having a laugh at our expense.
No-one can be seriously fanatically convinced that the KJV is God's precious accurate English translation.
Nice one!
God wont let you see it because you don't believe the words of the bible EXACTLY as they are written. Almost everything you believe about the bible is wrong and I can show you where you wrong and you still wont believe it because you wont believe the words EXACTLY as they are written.
 

Dino246

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I'm telling you something that you don't know because I care about you and all the other people are being deceived by false bibles. I wish you could understand but unfortunately, you can't imagine it even possible that I may know something that you don't.
Your arrogance is unfortunate. Projecting it on me is doubly so.
 
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Your arrogance is unfortunate. Projecting it on me is doubly so.
I'm arrogant because I know something and I admit that I know it. How is that arrogance? Should I just lie a pretend that Dino's unbiblical stance on the bible is right when I know it's wrong?

I'm not arrogant at all, I'm just not afraid to say what's on my mind and stand against lies about the bible.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I'm arrogant because I know something and I admit that I know it. How is that arrogance? Should I just lie a pretend that Dino's unbiblical stance on the bible is right when I know it's wrong?

I'm not arrogant at all, I'm just not afraid to say what's on my mind and stand against lies about the bible.
Use scripture to support the KJV as the Holy scripture or as the only authoritative translation there of. Prove it with scripture.
 
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I'm arrogant because I know something and I admit that I know it. How is that arrogance? Should I just lie a pretend that Dino's unbiblical stance on the bible is right when I know it's wrong?

I'm not arrogant at all, I'm just not afraid to say what's on my mind and stand against lies about the bible.
Including your own??
 

tanakh

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My Brain hurts. Its impossible to have the original scriptures. The poster declares concealed from Christians for the glory of God.
Why would that glorify God? I wish God would conceal U Tube
 
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God wont let you see it because you don't believe the words of the bible EXACTLY as they are written. Almost everything you believe about the bible is wrong and I can show you where you wrong and you still wont believe it because you wont believe the words EXACTLY as they are written.
They were written -- exactly -- in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and koine Greek, then translated into other languages. Compounding the fact is that we don't have complete ancient Bibles. All we have is a collection fragments of Biblical writings.

What can't you just admit that the KJV (whichever iteration you want, as there are several) is a translation; it is not, and never will be an EXACT duplication of the ancient languages.

What motivates your crusade?? Even your handle is "KJV1611"! What is your personal reason for going on and on and on..?
 
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Use scripture to support the KJV as the Holy scripture or as the only authoritative translation there of. Prove it with scripture.
(Psa 12:6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
(Psa 12:7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Since the bible makes no mention of which version of any language is the real deal, then it's up to you to figure out which translation preserved his word. look for the perfect image of Christ, that'll be the preserved version.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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(Psa 12:6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
(Psa 12:7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Since the bible makes no mention of which version of any language is the real deal, then it's up to you to figure out which translation preserved his word. look for the perfect image of Christ, that'll be the preserved version.
So it is definitely not the KJV.
It has got to be the Geneva Bible.
 
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They were written -- exactly -- in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and koine Greek, then translated into other languages. Compounding the fact is that we don't have complete ancient Bibles. All we have is a collection fragments of Biblical writings.

What can't you just admit that the KJV (whichever iteration you want, as there are several) is a translation; it is not, and never will be an EXACT duplication of the ancient languages.

What motivates your crusade?? Even your handle is "KJV1611"! What is your personal reason for going on and on and on..?
Man you go directly against what the bible says when you say we don't have the perfect word of God. God promised to preserve his word for EVERY GENERATION.

What is my reason for going on.... to counter the lies that spew out of your mouth, telling people their bibles are incomplete and full of lies. Dipsticks like you kept me from believing every word in my bible for years. If I can prevent one person from the heresy that you guys are spreading then that's one more person just like me that can have 100% faith in the word of God.
 
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So it is definitely not the KJV.
It has got to be the Geneva Bible.
It may have been at that time, I don't know. Maybe it wasn't, maybe it was like the NASB translators trying to translate God's word outside of God.
 
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What lie am I telling about the KJV?
That it is the pure, perfect, exact words of God. It isn't; it's just a translation. If you have proof -- real, verifiable proof that it is the pure, perfect, exact words of God.-- then let's see it. Don't just take a quote out of context -- two verses from a single psalm -- and say that applies to a translation created thousands of words later.

How about 2 Peter 2:1? "But false prophets arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you." How do we know you're not just teaching falsely, as Peter prophesied.
 

John146

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That it is the pure, perfect, exact words of God. It isn't; it's just a translation. If you have proof -- real, verifiable proof that it is the pure, perfect, exact words of God.-- then let's see it. Don't just take a quote out of context -- two verses from a single psalm -- and say that applies to a translation created thousands of words later.

How about 2 Peter 2:1? "But false prophets arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you." How do we know you're not just teaching falsely, as Peter prophesied.
You should provide evidence that it is not the word of truth. Evidence has been given against the new versions.
 

Dino246

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(Psa 12:6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
(Psa 12:7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Since the bible makes no mention of which version of any language is the real deal, then it's up to you to figure out which translation preserved his word. look for the perfect image of Christ, that'll be the preserved version.
So the words of the Lord are preserved from this generation forever.

Not "preserved forever", as you and all KJV-only proponents read it. That you all misread the text is rather telling.