The absurdity and heresy of Preterism
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I believe the Lord Jesus Christ is reigning over all things to the Church at the present time:
Ephesians 1:
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Yes, the Lord Jesus Christ is in each born again believer and He in us is greater than he that is in the world (1 John 4:4).
But it is wholly apparent that he that is in the world rules over those who do not follow the Lord Jesus Christ. And at one point in our lives, every believer was under bondage to "he that is in the world".
Ephesians 1:
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Yes, the Lord Jesus Christ is in each born again believer and He in us is greater than he that is in the world (1 John 4:4).
But it is wholly apparent that he that is in the world rules over those who do not follow the Lord Jesus Christ. And at one point in our lives, every believer was under bondage to "he that is in the world".
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Jesus never promised an earthly because HE and US are not of this world. We are sojourner just passing through just like Abraham was.
You believe exactly the same way the Jews that killed Christ believed. You have been bamboozled by the heresy of dispensationalism and you faint seem to care.
Every thing in the Bible that points to an earthly kingdom where Jesus is seated on the throne of David is referring to heavenly Jerusalem, the kingdom that CAME without observance. You have COMPLETELY missed that kingdom just like the Jews did.
You believe exactly the same way the Jews that killed Christ believed. You have been bamboozled by the heresy of dispensationalism and you faint seem to care.
Every thing in the Bible that points to an earthly kingdom where Jesus is seated on the throne of David is referring to heavenly Jerusalem, the kingdom that CAME without observance. You have COMPLETELY missed that kingdom just like the Jews did.
In the Bible I read that David’s throne was in Jerusalem, not heaven oand not to be confused with the heavenly Jerusalem. Do you know why those Jews believed in the restoration of the kingdom of Israel? Because the Jewish prophets foretold of it. What they missed was that this same messiah was to die for their sins before the physical could be given. That part was a mystery.
He may not be king and reigning over you but to those of us of believe the Bible over dispensationalism, he is reigning over us.
Why do you think Antifa is here right now? Do you think that God didn’t send them here to judge this country? Or are you one of these people that think God is in heaven wringing his hands in worry over all the chaos going on today? Shall evil be done in the land and the Lord didn’t bring it?
It blows mind my how you think Jesus Christ is bound in heaven not being able to do a single thing until he gets his crown. Or how Jesus can only be a mediator and not a king at the same time. Utter nonsense! I’ve never seen that anywhere in the Bible, where did you come up with this false doctrine?
Why do you think Antifa is here right now? Do you think that God didn’t send them here to judge this country? Or are you one of these people that think God is in heaven wringing his hands in worry over all the chaos going on today? Shall evil be done in the land and the Lord didn’t bring it?
It blows mind my how you think Jesus Christ is bound in heaven not being able to do a single thing until he gets his crown. Or how Jesus can only be a mediator and not a king at the same time. Utter nonsense! I’ve never seen that anywhere in the Bible, where did you come up with this false doctrine?
That’s because you think like the Jews that killed Christ. They, just like you believe, that God was going to restore that God forsaken earthly city also known as Sodom and Egypt where our Lord was crucified.
None of those verses about restoring Jerusalem are referring to that stink hole in the Middle East. All of those verses are talking about restoring the heavenly Jerusalem that those Jews that you worship ran into the ground.
None of those verses about restoring Jerusalem are referring to that stink hole in the Middle East. All of those verses are talking about restoring the heavenly Jerusalem that those Jews that you worship ran into the ground.
I guess the disciples thought like the Jews that killed Christ too.
Acts 1:
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
The Lord didn’t rebuke such a question but actually answered it. The time of this restoration of the kingdom of Israel is not for them to know.
Acts 1:
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
The Lord didn’t rebuke such a question but actually answered it. The time of this restoration of the kingdom of Israel is not for them to know.
I also believe, KJV1611, that there will be a future kingdom on earth, wherein the Lord Jesus Christ will reign.
In Ezekiel 47:15-21, there is a description of land which will be distributed among the twelve tribes of Israel. And within that land, there is a portion set aside for the Lord (Ez 45:1).
The division of the land described in Ezekiel 47:15-21 does not align with how the land was divided at the time the children of Israel entered the promised land.
Here is a link to a map showing the land depicted in Ezekiel 47:
Ezekiel 47
Here is a link to a map showing the land divided as shown in Joshua:
Joshua 13:22
As you can see, the land shown in the Ezekiel map is not divided the same as the Joshua map.
When the land is divided as shown on the Ezekiel map, the Lord Jesus Christ will reign and the name of the City shall be "the Lord is there":
Ezekiel 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.
In Ezekiel 47:15-21, there is a description of land which will be distributed among the twelve tribes of Israel. And within that land, there is a portion set aside for the Lord (Ez 45:1).
The division of the land described in Ezekiel 47:15-21 does not align with how the land was divided at the time the children of Israel entered the promised land.
Here is a link to a map showing the land depicted in Ezekiel 47:
Ezekiel 47
Here is a link to a map showing the land divided as shown in Joshua:
Joshua 13:22
As you can see, the land shown in the Ezekiel map is not divided the same as the Joshua map.
When the land is divided as shown on the Ezekiel map, the Lord Jesus Christ will reign and the name of the City shall be "the Lord is there":
Ezekiel 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.
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The Lord Jesus Christ at this time is seated in the heavenly Holiest of All (of which the earthly was a figure of the true - Heb 9:24). The way into the heavenly Holiest of All was not revealed while the earthly was standing:
Hebrews 9:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience
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11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
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23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
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28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
We are unable to physically enter the heavenly Holiest of All at this point in time. However, we are instructed to enter into the Holies by the blood of Jesus ... by a new and living way ... through His flesh ... and we draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith:
Hebrews 10:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
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17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised; )
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Notwithstanding the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ is currently seated at the right hand of the Father, and we have boldness to enter by the blood of Jesus and we draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, I still believe there will be an earthly reign of Jesus as I indicated in Post #1692.
And I believe this because of God's promise to Abraham in Gen 15. That was a promise that was made solely by God as Abraham was asleep (Gen 15:12). God keeps His promises and the Lord Jesus Christ shall reign ... in fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham. Hallelujah!!!
Revelation 20:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
After the thousand years has expired ...
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
When death and hell are cast into the lake of fire ... that is the destruction of the last enemy.
However, even after destruction of death, the Lord Jesus Christ sits on a throne in new heaven/new earth:
Revelation 22:
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Hebrews 9:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience
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11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
...
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
...
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
We are unable to physically enter the heavenly Holiest of All at this point in time. However, we are instructed to enter into the Holies by the blood of Jesus ... by a new and living way ... through His flesh ... and we draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith:
Hebrews 10:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
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17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised; )
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Notwithstanding the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ is currently seated at the right hand of the Father, and we have boldness to enter by the blood of Jesus and we draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, I still believe there will be an earthly reign of Jesus as I indicated in Post #1692.
And I believe this because of God's promise to Abraham in Gen 15. That was a promise that was made solely by God as Abraham was asleep (Gen 15:12). God keeps His promises and the Lord Jesus Christ shall reign ... in fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham. Hallelujah!!!
Revelation 20:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
After the thousand years has expired ...
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
When death and hell are cast into the lake of fire ... that is the destruction of the last enemy.
However, even after destruction of death, the Lord Jesus Christ sits on a throne in new heaven/new earth:
Revelation 22:
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
the church ... His body and He is the Head over all things to the church.
Ephesians 1:2
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
And even though He is Head over all things to the church, we still turn from Him and go our own way ... which is why we see such dissension in the church.
But just because we turn from Him ... that does not make what God said in Eph 1:22 untrue. It just makes us (the members of His body) suffer. We hurt ourselves when we turn from Him. We get tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph 4:14).
We get beguiled of our reward when we turn from Him:
Colossians 2:
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Ephesians 1:2
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
And even though He is Head over all things to the church, we still turn from Him and go our own way ... which is why we see such dissension in the church.
But just because we turn from Him ... that does not make what God said in Eph 1:22 untrue. It just makes us (the members of His body) suffer. We hurt ourselves when we turn from Him. We get tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph 4:14).
We get beguiled of our reward when we turn from Him:
Colossians 2:
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
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We could think we have eschatology all figured out but if we are not living in purity we will be ashamed at his appearing.
2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Some are not purifying themselves, instead they are polluting themselves with the lusts of the flesh that they had once been freed from. Backsliding and returning to bondage. They are not ready for the appearing of the Lord and they know it.
Do not allow that day to catch you unawares and do not go even one more day persisting in your sins. Freedom is still available. Just as Jesus set you free in times past and you lived many years in holiness and purity and the joy of the Lord, even now that same freedom is still available. Cry out to Jesus Christ in faith today believe that He will give you the grace to resist temptation and be willing to die before you willfully yield to that sin and lust again. Jesus will set you free and you will walk in victory again. He will keep you blameless as you wait his appearance.
2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Some are not purifying themselves, instead they are polluting themselves with the lusts of the flesh that they had once been freed from. Backsliding and returning to bondage. They are not ready for the appearing of the Lord and they know it.
Do not allow that day to catch you unawares and do not go even one more day persisting in your sins. Freedom is still available. Just as Jesus set you free in times past and you lived many years in holiness and purity and the joy of the Lord, even now that same freedom is still available. Cry out to Jesus Christ in faith today believe that He will give you the grace to resist temptation and be willing to die before you willfully yield to that sin and lust again. Jesus will set you free and you will walk in victory again. He will keep you blameless as you wait his appearance.
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Hebrews says that Abraham was called to go to a city who’s builder and maker is God. It says that he sojourned in the land of promise but he was only passing through the land of promise to get to the place that was his inheritance. So the promise land, Israel, was not Abraham’s promise.
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God