Riots in Minneapolis

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EleventhHour

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This is the perfect set up for a police state... only a few steps away.
 
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EleventhHour

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Could you explain?
Well I hope it does not go this way, and certainly it is to soon to tell... many of these agitators are not really doing it for any "cause" but rather to place the government in position where it will need to show force and turn on its citizens.... this will not be good.

They are looking to start a revolution

If this should happen then it will continue to escalate.
There will be a need for an ongoing strong military presence.
 
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kaylagrl

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Well I hope it does not go this way, and certainly it is to soon to tell... many of these agitators are not really doing it for any "cause" but rather to place the government in position where it will need to show force and turn on its citizens.... this will not be good.

They are looking to start a revolution

If this should happen then it will continue to escalate.
There will be a need for an ongoing strong military presence.
Honestly, it feels like we are at the point of no return. I agree with you. The wisdom of Solomon is needed. No matter what the president does at this point will be wrong. Love him or hate him he is the president and this cannot continue. They are pushing for a response, as you have said, and he has promised one if they don't stop looting and burning. It's a standoff. No one will win. Least of all the honest, hard working people of the country. At least 911 was outside, this is from within. And it will change this country forever, and not for the good.
 
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DWR

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Well I hope it does not go this way, and certainly it is to soon to tell... many of these agitators are not really doing it for any "cause" but rather to place the government in position where it will need to show force and turn on its citizens.... this will not be good.

They are looking to start a revolution

If this should happen then it will continue to escalate.
There will be a need for an ongoing strong military presence.
This is the conclusion I have come to myself.
The stage is set.
Everyone better get their house in order.
For the first time in my life I put a lock on my gate and a do not enter sign.
 
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kaylagrl

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This is the conclusion I have come to myself.
The stage is set.
Everyone better get their house in order.
For the first time in my life I put a lock on my gate and a do not enter sign.
This is why carry conceal is so important. Wouldn't want to live in a state that didn't have it.
 

Desdichado

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I jumped down that rabbit hole.

The source of his link is BET. BET sourced Vice News a vice news article.

Now BET and Vice both do us a service of pointing out how rioting and looting is being done by people of both races. The question is why- BET references Vice in saying it's Far-Right, White Supremacist, etc, but the images only indicate the men and women are white. It's like assuming every black person who riots is a disciple of Louis Farrakhan. One of the final tweets referenced in the BET article shows white members of the militant communist organization, Antifa.

The right-wing white protestors mentioned in the Vice article are mostly extreme civil libertarians. Whether they are Right Wing is a matter of debate even in Right Wing circles. But even if we give the devil his due for a moment, they are not really white supremacists and, it appears, not doing very much in the way of rioting or looting. If anything, their presence has prevented a lot of violence in their immediate vicinity.

So that covers one end of the vice article. The other is speculative trash at worst and provided no evidence of "accelerationists" and "eco fascists" on the streets. Just a message board post.

In short, these articles together in no way prove there are many right wing rioters and looters afoot. The evidence they provide tells a different story even without the commentary.

Judging from the sources provided by @posthuman in another thread, it looks like many of the rioters/looters are white, right wing extremists.
 

Desdichado

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Tucker did a great job as always. A real gadfly.

And yet the videos show that not to be true. Already re-writing it. Whatever side you come down on, I challenge everyone to watch Tucker Carlesons program last night. He nailed everyone, every side. Give it a listen and see if you don't think you find some truth in what he's saying.

 
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lenna

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Well I hope it does not go this way, and certainly it is to soon to tell... many of these agitators are not really doing it for any "cause" but rather to place the government in position where it will need to show force and turn on its citizens.... this will not be good.

They are looking to start a revolution

If this should happen then it will continue to escalate.
There will be a need for an ongoing strong military presence.

I would think there is an agenda behind the violence as it is so well organized. I would think the object is to gain control of the White House.
I'm not sure many people in the US would be objecting to some kind of action to stop the rioting right now.
 

Desdichado

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I really do worry we'll end up a totalitarian Leftist state or a Right-Wing autocracy.

The Rightists people should be worried about are not morons on the street, however few, but the people who relish the idea of quelling these riots with mass violence.

The Constitutional Republic so many have given their lives to build and sustain is buckling under the weight of rapine and idiocy.

Well I hope it does not go this way, and certainly it is to soon to tell... many of these agitators are not really doing it for any "cause" but rather to place the government in position where it will need to show force and turn on its citizens.... this will not be good.

They are looking to start a revolution

If this should happen then it will continue to escalate.
There will be a need for an ongoing strong military presence.
 
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EleventhHour

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I would think there is an agenda behind the violence as it is so well organized. I would think the object is to gain control of the White House.
I'm not sure many people in the US would be objecting to some king of action to stop the rioting right now.
Not sure they will gain control of the White House, the country still has its military.

I actually think they are serving a wider agenda, them themselves are only a conduit to a a greater surveillance society, police state.

And I wonder what role China has in all this?
 
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EleventhHour

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The Constitutional Republic so many have given their lives to build and sustain is buckling under the weight of rapine and idiocy.
This sums it up quite accurately indeed!

A sad state of affairs.
 
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lenna

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Not sure they will gain control of the White House, the country still has its military.

I actually think they are serving a wider agenda, them themselves are only a conduit to a a greater surveillance society, police state.

And I wonder what role China has in all this?
Oh to be sure I do not think they will get beyond the fence. What I meant was, they want to overthrow the government. The truly sad thing is that they are simply using gullible people to do their dirty work for them. People are like sheep after all. :cautious:
 
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EleventhHour

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Oh to be sure I do not think they will get beyond the fence. What I meant was, they want to overthrow the government. The truly sad thing is that they are simply using gullible people to do their dirty work for them. People are like sheep after all. :cautious:
Or are they the conduit by which the existing governmental structures are able to seize greater control over its citizenry? .........something to consider.
 
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lenna

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Or are they the conduit by which the existing governmental structures are able to seize greater control over its citizenry? .........something to consider.

That's too deep for me at the moment. But off the top of my head I would tend to say I don't think so. Now if you mean the Democrats, that could be a discussion LOL!
 
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EleventhHour

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That's too deep for me at the moment. But off the top of my head I would tend to say I don't think so. Now if you mean the Democrats, that could be a discussion LOL!
I seriously hope not...but Inam reluctant to trust any government... good citizen should always be aware