Riots in Minneapolis
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I'm not condoning the rioting. It allows people to comfortably focus their attention AWAY from the MURDER of GEORGE FLOYD and so many others. Many people are more angry at the rioting than at the conditions and the reasons for WHY they're rioting. And for some, that's easier than confronting the real issue that these people and so many others around the country are facing every single day.
THIS is why Colin Kaepernick and the other athletes were kneeling. And while you're condemning the violent protests, remember that this country condemned the peaceful protests too.
Looks like we can't win. And THAT'S why people are rioting.
Maybe when "THEIR" cause becomes "EVERYONE'S" cause, then EVERYONE will do more to help.
It is then AND ONLY THEN, that the phrase "All Lives Matter" will be applicable.
THIS is why Colin Kaepernick and the other athletes were kneeling. And while you're condemning the violent protests, remember that this country condemned the peaceful protests too.
Looks like we can't win. And THAT'S why people are rioting.
Maybe when "THEIR" cause becomes "EVERYONE'S" cause, then EVERYONE will do more to help.
It is then AND ONLY THEN, that the phrase "All Lives Matter" will be applicable.
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DWR
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I don't care how difficult live is for some people, it never justifies criminal actions.
Why stoop down to the level of those wicked people. Be better than they are.
These people that engaged in the criminal actions are doing more harm to their cause than good.
It has always been this way and will be until Jesus returns.
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Susanna
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Yes, if it is a double action, but if it is a single action it is impossible to tell. I'm not convinced that law enforcement officer was in full knowledge of what he was doing if he claimed to see that the weapon was not loaded. It is not possible to be sure.
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DWR
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Those engaged in the rioting are putting peoples lives in danger and sooner or later someone will lose their life as a result.
So yes I do place them in the same catagory.
They all need to go to jail.
I'll be the first to admit that in the particular circumstances that law enforcement officer took his life in his hands and fortunately for him it worked out.
Just as I said above, focusing on the rioting instead of the cause. What happened to that man should concern everyone.
I'm not saying that I condone the fires and the looting....
But if I killed someone ON VIDEO, I wouldn't be sitting at home with a battalion of armed guards outside my house FOR PROTECTION while they "investigate" matters. They would have hauled me off the same day and I would be sitting in Jail while they investigated.
But you want people to "trust the system"? "Let the system take its course" They've seen this system in action. That's why they've had enough. The same scenario time after Time. It's time for these thuggish rouge cops be held accountable for their actions. If they protest peaceably people have a problem if they do it not so peaceably, people have a problem and it always ends the same way. No justice. The problem folks have isn't the WAY in which they protest, it's the fact that they ARE protesting at all. Sure he was charged with 3rd degree murder and manslaughter but will he be convicted. At least the officer(s) will have their day in court. That right was taken from George Floyd. "It's always been that way" is the problem.
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Susanna
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This is the law of the minorities. Damned if you and damned if you don't.
I can never compare myself with what African Americans have been going through in this country, but I know a wee bit about belonging to a minority, and the racist remarks in the wake of it.
Minorities can't win, the only thing we can do is cut our losses.
Justice was served. The cop was arrested and charged for murder. Now more innocent people will die. Some already have due to the riots. Remember the texas sniper incident?
I often wonder what would happen if the media shared every good thing the police did. Would it outweigh the bad?
What are the stats? Do we have reliable data to say one race is treated differently?
I'll stand for injustice but as of today, I am far from spray painting the words kill the police.
In theory, I wish they would take a month off. Then people will see sins unleashed nature. There are police in my martial arts class and you wouldn't believe the mess they deal with.
My heart breaks for all who are innocent.
We need good data because media bias isn't persuading me to the point of rioting.
If the data is legit then I couldn't blame them for rioting. If my life was threatened or my freedom by the governing system and all peaceful protests have failed. Then sometimes it takes more than walking to bring justice to evil.
I often wonder what would happen if the media shared every good thing the police did. Would it outweigh the bad?
What are the stats? Do we have reliable data to say one race is treated differently?
I'll stand for injustice but as of today, I am far from spray painting the words kill the police.
In theory, I wish they would take a month off. Then people will see sins unleashed nature. There are police in my martial arts class and you wouldn't believe the mess they deal with.
My heart breaks for all who are innocent.
We need good data because media bias isn't persuading me to the point of rioting.
If the data is legit then I couldn't blame them for rioting. If my life was threatened or my freedom by the governing system and all peaceful protests have failed. Then sometimes it takes more than walking to bring justice to evil.
If someone pinned your love one down and had his knee on their neck/head and a few others holding your love ones body down and your love one was yelling and crying and saying, "Please, I can't breathe", repeatedly and then died. Would you consider the officer being arrested justice? Or a conviction? There are plenty of reliable data out there. It's called videos and court cases.
I'm not understanding WHY when someone complains about a police officer, folks rush to defend the good ones, when it is not the good ones that are in question. Noone is saying that ALL police officers are bad. Something needs to be done about the BAD ones. They continue to kill unarmed people and get away with it. If a person breaks the law and should be arrested, fine arrest them but why does it have to end in a death. The man said that he couldn't breathe, their was more than one officer holding him down, he should have gotten off of his head and neck. Being an officer doesn't give you a right to take lives all willy nilly they have to follow the law too.
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DWR
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I agree with what you say but the truth is that when something like this happens, there is a very loud minority that would have you to believe that all cops are as bad as this one was.
They are the same ones who take advantage of the sad situation to engage in their bad behavior.
YES. It is called law and order. Order goes both ways. And the law for manslaughter is for anyone including abusive police.
That isn't reliable data. You must compare data nationally. Then compare all cases that had evidence of police brutality, not opinion. Then compare all cases where cops do good for that group. And finally compare the data.
It was.
Because they are out to crucify them all. Have you been watching the media and things these people are saying?
It doesn't. They have training and guidelines for all situations. Even cops are disgusted with how those 4 handled the situation.
Statistics?
Yes as to why he was arrested.
I'm not saying that I condone the fires or the looting, but if you're madder at the businesses that can be rebuilt, than at George Floyd's life that CAN'T, and the men who killed him and are WERE STILL WALKING AROUND FREE, then you don't understand how serious this is. And what is going on in the minds of a neighborhood full of people who have lost ALL hope.
Aaaand now that the fires have started, it's OK to ignore the murder of George Floyd, his killers and the people and circumstances (both local, societal and historical) that allows for this to continue to happen.
So now blame is being shifted to the community for feeling so hopeless and helpless that they see no other way to get the world's attention to the fact that they have literally NOBODY to turn to.
Again, I'm not condoning the fires, and CERTAINLY not the looting. But I do UNDERSTAND. I wish that more of us would. I am done here.
Aaaand now that the fires have started, it's OK to ignore the murder of George Floyd, his killers and the people and circumstances (both local, societal and historical) that allows for this to continue to happen.
So now blame is being shifted to the community for feeling so hopeless and helpless that they see no other way to get the world's attention to the fact that they have literally NOBODY to turn to.
Again, I'm not condoning the fires, and CERTAINLY not the looting. But I do UNDERSTAND. I wish that more of us would. I am done here.
Hi HB
Of course 4 out of those 6 pics show people in work related positions. So, yeah, I have to agree, not like that. And BLM spawned numerous assaults, ambushes and executions of officers at random.
I've not heard of peaceful protests being told no.
When a 2 year old keeps wanting to have it's way and being denied, they resort to tantrums. Riots are adult tantrums.
And to call rioting a protest at all seems rather false to me. People in riots are clearly not interested whatsoever in justice. They're destroying the neighborhoods they live and shop in, people getting hurt. They lives of business owners ruined. The only people hurt by and affected by rioting are those that had nothing to do with the supposed cause.
Why don't such people ever acknowledge the good things police do? Or worse yet, the female office attacked by a much larger man that was so afraid to defend herself, due to fear of how her, her family and her station, would be perceived she was nearly beat to death. Funny how those stories always get lost in the shuffle as to what's wrong with things here.
People want to say we aren't looking at it from there view. Until it happens to us we don't want to see. Well, I wonder how many peoppe that claim that do the same with police? The One time I heard about someone from the anti-police view do such a thing it changed his view drastically.
He went did a few police training exercises. Even in that safe setting he "shot" nearly every "bad guy" in a panic. Didn't really hear much about that, either.
The reality is there's more to both sides. And everyone wants to be heard, no one wants to listen.
While he denies it, he's simply a cop hater. For the past few years now nearly his only activity on the forums has been in making the police look bad.
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EleventhHour
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Hi HB
Of course 4 out of those 6 pics show people in work related positions. So, yeah, I have to agree, not like that. And BLM spawned numerous assaults, ambushes and executions of officers at random.
I've not heard of peaceful protests being told no.
When a 2 year old keeps wanting to have it's way and being denied, they resort to tantrums. Riots are adult tantrums.
And to call rioting a protest at all seems rather false to me. People in riots are clearly not interested whatsoever in justice. They're destroying the neighborhoods they live and shop in, people getting hurt. They lives of business owners ruined. The only people hurt by and affected by rioting are those that had nothing to do with the supposed cause.
Why don't such people ever acknowledge the good things police do? Or worse yet, the female office attacked by a much larger man that was so afraid to defend herself, due to fear of how her, her family and her station, would be perceived she was nearly beat to death. Funny how those stories always get lost in the shuffle as to what's wrong with things here.
People want to say we aren't looking at it from there view. Until it happens to us we don't want to see. Well, I wonder how many peoppe that claim that do the same with police? The One time I heard about someone from the anti-police view do such a thing it changed his view drastically.
He went did a few police training exercises. Even in that safe setting he "shot" nearly every "bad guy" in a panic. Didn't really hear much about that, either.
The reality is there's more to both sides. And everyone wants to be heard, no one wants to listen.
This is not the black lives matter group Neither are they the same people that you speak of above. These are people of that city saying that Black lives Matter ALSO. They are not the actual group but using the term. They are not speaking of the good police because the good ones are NOT in question. AGAIN who said that there are no good police officers. Of course people know that. Rioting is protesting just not a peaceable one. Speaking of lost in the shuffle I'm sure in a few months noone well be talking about George Floyd just like Philando Castille, Sandra Bland, Atataina Jeffereson, Breonna Taylor and the list goes on. Noone says anything when men walked into the capitol with GUNS unecessarily and was yelling and jumping in the police officers faces because they don't want to wear masks. What happened, weren't they good police officers that day? I know what happened because thay felt that THEIR liberties were violated so now it's a big deal but if another group feels that liberties are violated it's a problem. Selective outrage. If it is happening to you, the sky is falling, if it happens to anyone else meh, they are overeacting.