Prophecy, it’s not what most think.

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The Pharisees created the 1000 year millennium doctrine. Jesus disproved it if you know the gospels.
I thought that God will create this. In Revelation, an angel told John a bunch of stuff and he wrote it all down. All except, of course, what the 7 Thunders uttered. He was not allowed to record what was said. Apparently, that is currently sealed up too along with some stuff that Daniel was writing down. Also, in Paul's vision he was not allowed to record everything either. Then there is that business with Jesus writing something in the dirt. I'm sure that He was not writing down a shopping list for His mother. Let's see, a loaf a bread, some figs, a pomegranate, and a quart of goat's milk. He didn't put a jug of wine on the list 'cause He will just make that Himself, draw a little water from the well, taste it, and call it good. Based on just the four instances mentioned about sealed prophecy there is still a lot to be learned in regards to the Word of God revealed in prophesy, especially as it pertains to end-time events.
 

cv5

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The 70 weeks placed the Kingdom arriving with Jesus in the time of the Roman Empire. Are you born again? Only they could see it. The Pharisees rejected Jesus and still cling to their 1000 year physical millennial kingdom.
Absolutely nothing happened seven years after Christ's triumphal entry. Or His crucifixion for that matter. Absolutely zero just like your theories.
 

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You can play this game you're attempting to with me, but as a licensed member dealing with mental issues and how the brain works in creating lies, you cannot force your biasedness on me any further than you can pick up a horse and toss it 20 feet
I see I read that wrong. I assumed that was a kind of threat that he had a gun license and mental health issues, 'don't mess with me bro'!
 

Truth7t7

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The 1000 years are the binding of Satan. They are not the kingdom. He attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.
I agree 100% Satan is bound currently in a non literal 1,000 years from deceiving the nations to battle.
 

Truth7t7

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Call them whatever you may, The Kingdom of God, The Millennium, and Heaven are all very real.
No 1,000 year kingdom on this earth is found in the Holy Scripture, just another false teaching of man
 

Truth7t7

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Here we go again; Revelation is not a false teaching.

Revelation 20
20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
You post (3) verses from Revelation, there is no earthly kingdom or mortal humans seen :) Now what ya gonna do?
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Absolutely nothing happened seven years after Christ's triumphal entry. Or His crucifixion for that matter. Absolutely zero [...]
That's why Hebrews 10:12-13 says,

"12 But this One, having offered one sacrifice for sins in perpetuity, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 the henceforth awaiting until His enemies should be placed as a footstool for His feet."

https://biblehub.com/text/hebrews/10-13.htm


"the henceforth AWAITING *until*..." ;)



[this corresponds with Acts 3:21... which is NOT (and which chpt-section is also NOT) making the point that Jesus is "sitting on David's throne" (up in Heaven) presently;) ]
 

oyster67

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You post (3) verses from Revelation, there is no earthly kingdom or mortal humans seen :) Now what ya gonna do?
Revelation 20

20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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[to go with my Post #331 ^ ]

Compare:

Luke 22:30,16,18 with Matthew 19:28 (and then Matt25:31-34 for its TIMING):

Luke 22 -

30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


Matthew 19:28 -

28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you that in the regeneration when the Son of Man shall sit down upon His throne of glory, you having followed Me, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [see Matt25:31-34 for its TIMING]
 

cv5

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That's why Hebrews 10:12-13 says,

"12 But this One, having offered one sacrifice for sins in perpetuity, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 the henceforth awaiting until His enemies should be placed as a footstool for His feet."

https://biblehub.com/text/hebrews/10-13.htm


"the henceforth AWAITING *until*..." ;)



[this corresponds with Acts 3:21... which is NOT (and which chpt-section is also NOT) making the point that Jesus is "sitting on David's throne" (up in Heaven) presently;) ]
How anyone could avoid the futurist aspect of those scriptures is beyond me. And of course those Scriptures concatenate perfectly with Daniels prophecies all of the other prophecies in Scripture.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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[to go with my Post #331 ^ ]
Compare:
Luke 22:30,16,18 with Matthew 19:28 (and then Matt25:31-34 for its TIMING):
Luke 22 -
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That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:28 -
28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you that in the regeneration when the Son of Man shall sit down upon His throne of glory, you having followed Me, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [see Matt25:31-34 for its TIMING]
I wish to clarify (what I usually put along with this ^ ) is that Jesus said this to "the 12"



[Matthias being the replacement for Judas, per Acts 1 ('and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.')]
 

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So you have preterist 70AD fulfillment, and floating fulfillment in the future?
I will not associate myself with your labeling. I have no use for your theological term. The word of God is clear .
 

TheDivineWatermark

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How anyone could avoid the futurist aspect of those scriptures is beyond me. And of course those Scriptures concatenate perfectly with Daniels prophecies all of the other prophecies in Scripture.
Yes, they certainly do.

I think it is sometimes easy to 'hear the voices of men' (there are many saying the opposite, as you know)... I am recalling friends who "changed their view" (taking steps further away from 'Truth') simply because those they "heard" (or "read") sounded "more intelligent" than those they'd listened to/learned from previously. In many cases, it is true that what they'd learned previously was, in some measure, "off," but instead of going to the Word (SEARCHING) "to see if these things be so," they settled for the more "intelligent-sounding" teachers (who, unfortunately, were further off track than those they'd come from). I've seen this so many times... it really saddens me.