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Absolutely wrong. Paul is not stating that he "was" a sinner. The Greek is clear (profoundly so) and indicates that Paul is stating that he "is" a sinner.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_timothy/1-15.htm
https://biblehub.com/greek/1510.htm
1510 /eimí ("is, am") – in the present tense, indicative mood – can be time-inclusive ("omnitemporal," like the Hebrew imperfect tense). Only the context indicates whether thepresent tense also has "timeless" implications. For example,1510 (eimí) is aptly used in Christ's great "I am" (ego eimi . . . ) that also include His eternality (self-existent life) as ourlife, bread, light," etc. See Jn 7:34, 8:58, etc.
Your interpretation of Romans chapter 7 is likewise woefully erroneous.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_timothy/1-15.htm
https://biblehub.com/greek/1510.htm
1510 /eimí ("is, am") – in the present tense, indicative mood – can be time-inclusive ("omnitemporal," like the Hebrew imperfect tense). Only the context indicates whether thepresent tense also has "timeless" implications. For example,1510 (eimí) is aptly used in Christ's great "I am" (ego eimi . . . ) that also include His eternality (self-existent life) as ourlife, bread, light," etc. See Jn 7:34, 8:58, etc.
Your interpretation of Romans chapter 7 is likewise woefully erroneous.
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I thought that you said you were a Greek scholar? Surely you jest.
Because 1Timothy 1:15 is absolutely infallibly clear in the Greek.
At any rate I'm going to tip my hand here and state that I think that you are some kind of nutter heretic who is on the bleeding edge of being out of their mind. Sorry but that is my honest assessment. I truly hope I don't get banned for speaking my mind on the matter.
Because 1Timothy 1:15 is absolutely infallibly clear in the Greek.
At any rate I'm going to tip my hand here and state that I think that you are some kind of nutter heretic who is on the bleeding edge of being out of their mind. Sorry but that is my honest assessment. I truly hope I don't get banned for speaking my mind on the matter.
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I think if you spend more time on Bible reading, instead of Bible translating, you will be all the better for it.
All the prophets have been accused of being heretics (Jesus was accused of being crazy as well). I am in good company.
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Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets (Luke 6:26).
God bless!
All the prophets have been accused of being heretics (Jesus was accused of being crazy as well). I am in good company.
For:
Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets (Luke 6:26).
God bless!
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I have to say I regret my earlier post. I probably should have kept my opinions to myself, but there may be a benefit in that you might reassess your condition and situation and hopefully it will eventually match that of Paul, who was painfully aware that he was a sinner, and stated as much publicly and in writing.
What I need you to do now is to properly exegete 1Tim 1:15.
εἰμι ἐγώ (eimi ego) specifically.
What I need you to do now is to properly exegete 1Tim 1:15.
εἰμι ἐγώ (eimi ego) specifically.
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Now the one that can change (you) are pointing out to me (that also can change) that God (that cannot change), changed.
Jesus was clear, He didn’t came to destroy the law but give it its full meaning (in grace) so we can see what we should do. Like always, men were in error and Abba Father showed us the way.
I am a follower of Jesus, He lived Torah and I will try to do so because I am obedient. This has got nothing to do with my salvation. My works are like filthy rags before God without the blood of the Lamb covering me, and His Spirit guiding me.
God bless you DC.
Jesus was clear, He didn’t came to destroy the law but give it its full meaning (in grace) so we can see what we should do. Like always, men were in error and Abba Father showed us the way.
I am a follower of Jesus, He lived Torah and I will try to do so because I am obedient. This has got nothing to do with my salvation. My works are like filthy rags before God without the blood of the Lamb covering me, and His Spirit guiding me.
God bless you DC.
You are equating yourself with the prophets yet again. You are nothing whatsoever like the prophets. The prophets were sinners, and said so many times in many places.
You on the other hand are declare that you are perfectly obedient and perfectly righteous.
Not one single solitary human being in the Bible ever stated that.........except for Messiah Lord Jesus Himself.
Anyhoo.....I'm done here and I'm going to put you on ignore have a good evening.
You on the other hand are declare that you are perfectly obedient and perfectly righteous.
Not one single solitary human being in the Bible ever stated that.........except for Messiah Lord Jesus Himself.
Anyhoo.....I'm done here and I'm going to put you on ignore have a good evening.
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God knows who is making it and who is not making it (He is God), but if God is forcing us to love Him, it is predestination and I can live my life as I please and I will be saved. Just like He knew Jesus would be crucified the moment He started with His creation, he knew what would happen to all of us.
The Bible teaches us that we are all saved until we choose not to. On that day our names will be blotted out of the Book of Life. Again, it is not God, it is man that is in error.
The Bible teaches us that we are all saved until we choose not to. On that day our names will be blotted out of the Book of Life. Again, it is not God, it is man that is in error.