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Judges1318

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EleventhHour said:
There is no rest against those who subvert the Gospel... and you would do well to listen and learn that what @Judges1318 teaches is not biblical.
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But according to you I'm exactly in line with your gospel.
I believed way back in 1986 and, according to your gospel, nothing I do or say can change that.
But you attack me for living out exactly what you say I can do and say and call it subverting the gospel.

According to you I can deny the gospel (your gospel) and I'm still saved, yet you call what I'm saying and doing un-Biblical. :unsure:
I can't wait to see how you paddle your way out of this one.
 
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EleventhHour

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Judges1318 said:
You are the one who says the believer can stop believing and they are still saved, not me.
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Perhaps you should consider coming to a full understanding of "belief" and "faith" within the context of the Gospel.

What you preach is mental assent.............not scriptural "belief"
 
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John146

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Judges1318 said:
But according to you I'm exactly in line with your gospel.
I believed way back in 1986 and, according to your gospel, nothing I do or say can change that.
But you attack me for living out exactly what you say I can do and say and call it subverting the gospel.

According to you I can deny the gospel (your gospel) and I'm still saved, yet you call what I'm saying and doing un-Biblical. :unsure:
I can't wait to see how you paddle your way out of this one.
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And you have no idea for yourself if you will continue to believe in the future. You’re not saved until you breathe your last breath while believing. This is your false peace message.
 
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Judges1318 said:
In your favorite chapter, is the believer's mind set on sin or is it set on righteousness?
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That’s a beautiful question and I’m pleased to answer it. The believer’s mind is set on righteousness. With that said, how come yours is always set on sin and negativity? And I don’t say your mind is not set on those things because your entire history of posts says otherwise.
 
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EleventhHour

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Judges1318 said:
But according to you I'm exactly in line with your gospel.
I believed way back in 1986 and, according to your gospel, nothing I do or say can change that.
But you attack me for living out exactly what you say I can do and say and call it subverting the gospel.

According to you I can deny the gospel (your gospel) and I'm still saved, yet you call what I'm saying and doing un-Biblical. :unsure:
I can't wait to see how you paddle your way out of this one.
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Did you believe?
 
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NO OSAS believer has ever said "go out and sin all you want to" and this "myth" given out by those who have to "hold onto" their salvation created it.
 
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EleventhHour

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Judges1318 said:
He withholds the grace of salvation for those who go back to unbelief.
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:( I am just going to be honest, every time I read one of your posts, I think what is it like to knowingly teach falsely about the character of God.

And then I pray I should never be guilty of such an horrendous act.

And actually I never want to know either what it is like..... God forbid.
 
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Judges1318

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EleventhHour said:
Perhaps you should consider coming to a full understanding of "belief" and "faith" within the context of the Gospel.

What you preach is mental assent.............not scriptural "belief"
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Trusting in Christ in response to the gift of faith God gives is exactly the 'believing' I and the Bible talk about.
You have to continue to do that believing in order to be saved when Jesus comes back.
 
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Judges1318

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NO OSAS believer has ever said "go out and sin all you want to" and this "myth" given out by those who have to "hold onto" their salvation created it.
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You are very uneducated in your own doctrine.
It says quite plainly that the believer can willfully sin in unbelief if he wants and he is still saved.
 
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EleventhHour

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Judges1318 said:
Trusting in Christ in response to the gift of faith God gives is exactly the 'believing' I and the Bible talk about.
You have to continue to do that believing in order to be saved when Jesus comes back.
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Do you know the Gospel?
 
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Judges1318

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John146 said:
And you have no idea for yourself if you will continue to believe in the future. You’re not saved until you breathe your last breath while believing. This is your false peace message.
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I can see your osas bias.
You instantly define 'saved' as 'always saved'.
That's why you think my doctrine says we can't know if we're saved.

You don't know if you will continue to believe until your last breath, but you were saved all along the way as long as you were believing.
The Bible says it very plainly; you are presently saved in your present believing.
 
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Judges1318

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You better hope you can "hang on" then to the bitter end. Watch out for any doubt which may creep in cause if you die during that nanosecond, you'll be a goner.
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No.
Doubt does not cause you to lose your salvation.
Willful unbelief does.

But yes, I've posted the many scriptures that exhort us to hold fast in faith to the end.
You can't see them when I post them because you are blinded by an erroneous indoctrination.
 
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NO OSAS believer has ever said "go out and sin all you want to" and this "myth" given out by those who have to "hold onto" their salvation created it.
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So I take it you won’t be attending any mass shooting ceremonies celebrating God’s grace. They won’t be the same without you. ❤️
 
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