Is God Good?

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He did not murder His Son. Please stop.
Yes he did not murderer the Son of man, Jesus . But rather when the two (father and Son) in mutual agreement performed the promised demonstration of a living sacrifice.

The father poured out his wrath on the sinful flesh (corrupted) and in his weakness the Son cried out for spirit strength and the father in mutual submissions would send it. Three times with three denoting the end of a matter, together they finished the first part of the demonstration of the three day promise of sufferings in the heart of the corrupted earth or creation .

Roman informs us his earthen body of death must be signified as sinful (he had no sin inwardly) as that needed to do what the letter of the law (death) .could not. Create new born again life. A law law of faith . Making the law perfect when working as one. The just and justifier

The demonstration completed the parallel parable. Three days and nights sufferings the pangs of hell, using Jonas to help strengthen the understanding of faith .The last sign as a wonder.

God does not accept dead sacrifices.
 
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But he leads people into positions where their lust overcomes them.
Which would make Him complicit in sin. Imagine if you told your child not to disobey you, then you arranged the situation so that you caused them to disobey you and then you punished them till they died. Would that be considered child abuse? smh God does not cause sin. That would make Him worse than Hitler.
 
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Has anyone said "All the time"?

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

I was going to when I first read the question. But it got crazy so fast that I forgot! lol
 
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Which would make Him complicit in sin. Imagine if you told your child not to disobey you, then you arranged the situation so that you caused them to disobey you and then you punished them till they died. Would that be considered child abuse? smh God does not cause sin. That would make Him worse than Hitler.
You are not considering how God judges sinners. Hardening the heart of Pharaoh made him sin more so God could demonstrate his power more effectively. Blinding the Jews so they could not understand the bible caused them to sin more leading to greater destruction.
 
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God cannot die. Jesus is God in trinity. He killed his human nature shedding his blood for the sins of the elect. But you say God does not cause people to sin, giving Satan his glory. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

Apparently He can according to you. If He murdered part of Himself, whether the human part or not, He committed murder against Himself, or committed suicide, I don't know which. Where have you gotten this convoluted theory?
 
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Apparently He can according to you. If He murdered part of Himself, whether the human part or not, He committed murder against Himself, or committed suicide, I don't know which. Where have you gotten this convoluted theory?
You don't understand the trinity or the person of Christ. Nor the problem of evil.
 
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Was Abraham about to murder Isaac?
From Abraham’s point of view, he was about to sacrifice his son, but it wouldn’t be murder, as God does not command murder. This was to show Abraham his faith in Him. It was to prove the point of Abraham fully trusting Him in all things. Plus, he said “we will worship and return to you.”
 
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From Abraham’s point of view, he was about to sacrifice his son, but it wouldn’t be murder, as God does not command murder. This was to show Abraham his faith in Him. It was to prove the point of Abraham fully trusting Him in all things. Plus, he said “we will worship and return to you.”
Where does God not command murder? The bible is full of it. He is the Lord of Hosts (armies), as in the Canaanites and other murderous acts.
 
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You don't understand the trinity or the person of Christ. Nor the problem of evil.
Let's see, God in three persons, trinity. Father, Son, Holy spirit, all perfectly agree with the other, in perfect harmony. Christ took on human form and LAID DOWN His life to die on the cross for sinners.

There is no problem of evil. Man rebelled, we live in a fallen world, we were given freewill. God sent His Son to redeem us. We've been given a second chance, the choice is ours.
 
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Where does God not command murder? The bible is full of it. He is the Lord of Hosts (armies), as in the Canaanites and other murderous acts.
Nope, that’s not murder. I’m done with you and your blaspheming God. Toodles.
 
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But he leads people into positions where their lust overcomes them.
I’m curious, what is your angle? It’s like you seem to agree with the Bible, but question the source. What demons do you face that you feel you have no power and authority over? All sin is in the flesh. It’s really that simple. We all have to choose which master we will serve, either God or flesh. Man is flesh and spirit. Which ever part you feed, grows stronger. If you CHOOSE to eat what you crave, drink what you crave and view what you crave, then you are feeding the flesh. The flesh is never satisfied. For chemical reasons that I could explain, the more excitement you get, the harder it is to reach again, so it causes a very serious addiction to pleasure. Surpassing the natural consumption of the basic programmed needs for survival (food especially glucose, sex and acceptance) we create an addiction feedback loop. Refined sugar, pornography and social media have perfectly fed these “needs” in abundance to the point where they control us (serving the flesh). God created the system for survival. In nature animals eat when they’re hungry, mate when the cues for reproduction are evident (smells) and belong in groups. This is why they stay on course with their God planned design. They kill to eat, not murder for greed. They mate for reproduction, not entertainment and don’t spend countless hours trying to get “likes” and followers on social media. They serve God by keeping nature balanced. When we take a dog and teach him right from wrong, he is eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The consequence is that he no longer fulfills his intended design. That’s what makes him gluttonous and attention starved. Subsequently he no longer feels the programming of his DNA to serve God, to help control weak populations of other animals. Instead if barks or runs after another animal he is reprimanded. This new programming causes guilt. Because from birth he was trained, he “was born into sin”. Because we are part of this society that teaches us to stockpile wealth, lust after every woman in a short skirt and have large groups of friends we too are born into sin. The programming of God is muted. When we starve the flesh long enough, it returns to baseline. The lack of guilt opens up a frequency atuned to the Holy Spirit where we can once again hear God, to serve Him. Renewing of the mind.
 
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Let's see, God in three persons, trinity. Father, Son, Holy spirit, all perfectly agree with the other, in perfect harmony. Christ took on human form and LAID DOWN His life to die on the cross for sinners.

There is no problem of evil. Man rebelled, we live in a fallen world, we were given freewill. God sent His Son to redeem us. We've been given a second chance, the choice is ours.
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Let's see, God in three persons, trinity. Father, Son, Holy spirit, all perfectly agree with the other, in perfect harmony. Christ took on human form and LAID DOWN His life to die on the cross for sinners.

There is no problem of evil. Man rebelled, we live in a fallen world, we were given freewill. God sent His Son to redeem us. We've been given a second chance, the choice is ours.
he problem is; why would God not stop evil if he is good? Or why would he not stop it if he is all-powerful? How can God be both all-powerful and good if evil exists?
 
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I’m curious, what is your angle? It’s like you seem to agree with the Bible, but question the source. What demons do you face that you feel you have no power and authority over? All sin is in the flesh. It’s really that simple. We all have to choose which master we will serve, either God or flesh. Man is flesh and spirit. Which ever part you feed, grows stronger. If you CHOOSE to eat what you crave, drink what you crave and view what you crave, then you are feeding the flesh. The flesh is never satisfied. For chemical reasons that I could explain, the more excitement you get, the harder it is to reach again, so it causes a very serious addiction to pleasure. Surpassing the natural consumption of the basic programmed needs for survival (food especially glucose, sex and acceptance) we create an addiction feedback loop. Refined sugar, pornography and social media have perfectly fed these “needs” in abundance to the point where they control us (serving the flesh). God created the system for survival. In nature animals eat when they’re hungry, mate when the cues for reproduction are evident (smells) and belong in groups. This is why they stay on course with their God planned design. They kill to eat, not murder for greed. They mate for reproduction, not entertainment and don’t spend countless hours trying to get “likes” and followers on social media. They serve God by keeping nature balanced. When we take a dog and teach him right from wrong, he is eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The consequence is that he no longer fulfills his intended design. That’s what makes him gluttonous and attention starved. Subsequently he no longer feels the programming of his DNA to serve God, to help control weak populations of other animals. Instead if barks or runs after another animal he is reprimanded. This new programming causes guilt. Because from birth he was trained, he “was born into sin”. Because we are part of this society that teaches us to stockpile wealth, lust after every woman in a short skirt and have large groups of friends we too are born into sin. The programming of God is muted. When we starve the flesh long enough, it returns to baseline. The lack of guilt opens up a frequency atuned to the Holy Spirit where we can once again hear God, to serve Him. Renewing of the mind.
Why pray "lead us not into temptation" if God doesn't do this?
 
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he problem is; why would God not stop evil if he is good? Or why would he not stop it if he is all-powerful? How can God be both all-powerful and good if evil exists?

No there is no problem. God created a perfect world and gave man f reewill. He chose to rebel and the world and everything in it suffered because of his choice. Therefore evil, sickness, calamity, choice. But one day Christ will come back and vanquish those who have rebelled against Him. Evil exists for a time. Not because God isn't powerful, not because He's not good. If He wasn't good He'd have killed man in the garden, buried him under the tree of life and be done with it.