CESSATIONISM AND HEALING
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So the wicked have no faith and are healed?
The unsaved are not elect. God is sovereign in all things. God is good to both the saved and the unsaved. Longsuffering in mercy toward mankind.
You still have no foundation laid for your accusations that faith is required for healing.
Faith comes from hearing the word of God. Lack faith then go and study the word of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The unsaved are not elect. God is sovereign in all things. God is good to both the saved and the unsaved. Longsuffering in mercy toward mankind.
You still have no foundation laid for your accusations that faith is required for healing.
Faith comes from hearing the word of God. Lack faith then go and study the word of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You are not answering my question. Paul was given signs and wonders in Acts, to show the other 12 apostles that he was legitimately sent by God, and his gospel to the gentiles was valid.
But by the end of his lifespan, obviously even Paul himself could tell that those signs and wonders for healing are no longer avaliable. He could not send his hankerchief to Timothy to heal him, like he could have done in Acts.
But by the end of his lifespan, obviously even Paul himself could tell that those signs and wonders for healing are no longer avaliable. He could not send his hankerchief to Timothy to heal him, like he could have done in Acts.
Let me make the answer in points.
To 1) Yes, I have eternal life. Yes, I will die, like all other believers do before me, except the rapture will come before.
The living hope of eternal life is a fact, because its given as promisse.
The living hope of a healthy wealthy life is a lie, because its not given as a promisse.
2.) So in your view, it is for Christians not allowed to go to doctors ore take medicine?
Luke was an doctor. Medicine is made from that what God has createt.
What is the different between you and Benny Hinn? You are talking the same, with the same result.
Anyway people should not trust in other persons. But this is an old problem!
Despair comes then when you promisse something what is not coming true. And in this case you give the blame to the one who search healing, because if he is not healed, then because of lack faith.
To3) I have nothing against believers who believes that God heals, as he is doing today.
But if you promisse them healing, and if they are not healed it is because of lack of faith, i am not with you.
Bye the way this happend often in Mission situation. That healed pagans which turned to Christ preach the Gospel and gloryfie God
To 1) Yes, I have eternal life. Yes, I will die, like all other believers do before me, except the rapture will come before.
The living hope of eternal life is a fact, because its given as promisse.
The living hope of a healthy wealthy life is a lie, because its not given as a promisse.
2.) So in your view, it is for Christians not allowed to go to doctors ore take medicine?
Luke was an doctor. Medicine is made from that what God has createt.
What is the different between you and Benny Hinn? You are talking the same, with the same result.
Anyway people should not trust in other persons. But this is an old problem!
Despair comes then when you promisse something what is not coming true. And in this case you give the blame to the one who search healing, because if he is not healed, then because of lack faith.
To3) I have nothing against believers who believes that God heals, as he is doing today.
But if you promisse them healing, and if they are not healed it is because of lack of faith, i am not with you.
Bye the way this happend often in Mission situation. That healed pagans which turned to Christ preach the Gospel and gloryfie God
Yes healing does happen today.. But i have no confidence in guys like T.B.Joshua and may others who i suspect of being scam artists..
If it plays a part in Gods will to heal a person then that person will be healed.. If it does not play a part in Gods plan for a person to be healed then that person will not be healed.. I do believe Faith that God can heal opens a door to the possibility of that person being healed if God so wills..
Healing is not dependent on one being super religious or super good.. Being healed is not God making a payment to us because we are top notch Christians and not healing us because we are poor examples of Christianity..
If it plays a part in Gods will to heal a person then that person will be healed.. If it does not play a part in Gods plan for a person to be healed then that person will not be healed.. I do believe Faith that God can heal opens a door to the possibility of that person being healed if God so wills..
Healing is not dependent on one being super religious or super good.. Being healed is not God making a payment to us because we are top notch Christians and not healing us because we are poor examples of Christianity..
You: The living hope of a healthy wealthy life is a lie, because its not given as a promisse.
Me: Mathew 8: 17 is a promise for believers.
You: Despair comes then when you promisse something what is not coming true.
Me: You doubt faith in Christ's blood to heal?
You: And in this case you give the blame to the one who search healing, because if he is not healed, then because of lack faith.
Me: Faith is tested.
Me: Mathew 8: 17 is a promise for believers.
You: Despair comes then when you promisse something what is not coming true.
Me: You doubt faith in Christ's blood to heal?
You: And in this case you give the blame to the one who search healing, because if he is not healed, then because of lack faith.
Me: Faith is tested.
You are focused on the physical body and healing a broken sin cursed body. The cross of Christ is about the Lamb sent from God to make a perfect atonement for sin. Your theology appears to be man centered and not Christ centered.
Better it is to enter heaven blind and halt than to be cast into eternal condemnation whole.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Better it is to enter heaven blind and halt than to be cast into eternal condemnation whole.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Are you neglecting the physical body without which none can proclaim the gospel?
After He raised a girl, He said, "Give her to eat". Didn't Jesus care for the physical body?
Was the physical body alone corrupted by sin? Wasn't the soul & spirit also corrupted?
Bodily resurrection of the elect proves the importance of the body as well.
"Better it is to enter heaven blind and halt than to be cast into eternal condemnation whole". This was stated not to despise the body but to emphasise the importance of accepting grace to enter heaven.
After He raised a girl, He said, "Give her to eat". Didn't Jesus care for the physical body?
Was the physical body alone corrupted by sin? Wasn't the soul & spirit also corrupted?
Bodily resurrection of the elect proves the importance of the body as well.
"Better it is to enter heaven blind and halt than to be cast into eternal condemnation whole". This was stated not to despise the body but to emphasise the importance of accepting grace to enter heaven.
