THEY DO TO TRUMP AS THEY DID TO JESUS

watchman333 · Apr 25, 2020

Have you seen a Presidential news conference lately, or any interaction President Trump might have with the news media? It is a fascinating spectacle. It seems the men and women of the media are no longer searching for the honest truth as their forebears did, they are searching to damage President Trump. If I said they were simply disingenuous and snarky it would be too complimentary. No, the media has an agenda, and that agenda is to trap the President into saying something wrong. They want to bring him down.

Their interactions with President Trump reminded me of what the scribes and Pharisees tried to do to our Savior when He walked the earth. Remember when they sent spies out to Lord Jesus trying to catch Him preaching some doctrine contrary to the Torah? They were not particular, anything they could claim as blasphemy would do. In the end, they were forced to send liars to convict Him when He stood at their fake trial.

We have the same vultures today who will say and do anything to win the next election. They want President Trump gone, period. Why? The Democrat Party want their power back, for power means money, and lots of it. The scribes and Pharisees were no different. Christ was taking away their money and power in tithes, offerings, prestige, respect, etc. They thought they would get away with it, but as Christ told them in Luke 11, verily I say unto you, it shall be required of this generation.

Here are the last verses of Luke, chapter 11, and explain how today's politicians and corrupt news media are acting any differently toward President Trump as the scribes and Pharisees acted toward our beloved Lord, Jesus Christ.

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. And as He said these things unto them, the scribes and Pharisees began to urge Him vehemently, and to provoke Him to speak of many things: Laying wait for Him, and seeking to catch something out of His mouth, that they might accuse Him. Luke 11:52

If anyone has President Trump's ear, because I don't, please pass this along to him.

Whispered · Apr 26, 2020

I can see your point. There's a nasty rumor now going around that isn't even to be believed regardless of whom it is attributed to. But of course it is claimed "Trump said it". That people should inject themselves with Lysol to fight Corona virus.

That silliness didn't die with its first utterance. It's spread across the net.
And now with the lock down and stay at home orders, some states Governors claiming there will be a $1,000.00 fine against anyone who isn't wearing a mask, which does little to nothing to stop the spread of Covid19, things are getting really weird and out of hand.
News conferences with Trump are becoming adversarial. Reporters , for the Left media of course, abandoning professionalism and basic manners as they try to talk over Trump after he's answered their question with an answer they clearly don't accept.

It's nuts. I heard a blurb on a news program today that speculated since the primaries were cancelled due to Corona, but really are they needed when Joe Biden is the only Democrat left in the campaign, likely an on-line election will be necessary come November.

God forbid! The last mid-term election held across the country in usual style resulted in voter fraud and voting discrepencies by certain department of elections officials so as to insure Democrats got the majority in the House for the next two years. Can you imagine the mid-term and presidential election being conducted by computer? No chance of fraud and corruption there, right?

Hubby says and I agree that even serving to help in this crisis we both think there is something behind this. The economy was booming well and more so than under the last two presidents. Now it's suffering due to Corona measures in place. Of course it is all Trump's fault, as usual.
He could find a cure for cancer using his own money to fund the research and that be a news item next week. All the Left would see and report is, it's a publicity stunt to influence the November election. He selfishly held on to this cure information so as to time it to his re-election benefit!

I remember that verse, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it, when I think of the assault Trump's presidency has suffered since before he was even elected. Surely the gates of Hell opened and seek to this day to prevail against him and by proxy, America.
There's a reason it's called, the Left hand path, when referring to dark magic and Satanic witchcraft.

p_rehbein · Apr 26, 2020

Trumps NOT JESUS!

However, what they did to Jesus, they will do to US...................Christ said so...........and, I suppose Trump is one of us, but I have my doubts.............

John 15:20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

MattforJesus · Apr 26, 2020

When President Trump said that possibly disinfectant could be the cure he was playing stupid on purpose.

And when he said other things that were not medically sound he was playing stupid on purpose.

And other things he said that did not seem right he was playing stupid on purpose.

So what is the purpose.

They have nanotech patches that can be applied to alleviate pain.

They will use nanotechnology as the cure for the coronavirus which they can track people, and monitor the activity of a person because of the coronavirus.

President Trump introduced a biometric system to cut down on crime.

The nanotechnology vaccine will get people used to a microchip being in them, and being tracked, and that the chip can be beneficial in a person to prepare them for a bigger chip just under the skin linked to satellite that is a better tracking system.

Trump's biometric system to cut down on crime.

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their false interpretation of the Bible.

The time will come that the world will want to hear the Bible according to the new age movement.

Which is based on evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and no higher power above them.

But they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to evolve until the nations come together as one to work for peace.

Which the nations will come together, and the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and push the agenda of the new age movement to prepare the world for when he claims to be God.

Which when the world follows the New Age Christ then God will put down the world.

President Trump said that America laid the path for peace and security in the world, and wants nations to thrive next to each other.

Wants United Nations to take a more active role in the world, and for the nations to step it up and work for peace.

Pushes for peace in the Middle East more than any other president.

The Bible says concerning this time that none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.

But Trump does not understand but is helping the cause of the new age movement that shall deceive the world.

Russia and America, and Republican and Democrat are working together.

The Hegel System, sets up 2 opposing forces which gets everybody involved for they will choose a side, and then cooperation of the 2 opposing forces and brings them together.

America, religious, spiritual, belief in a higher power at their start.

Russia, atheist at their start.

America took prayer out of school started teaching evolution.

Russia started allowing Christianity.

New age movement, atheist, but spiritual, higher power the God of forces, the evolutionary process.

Russia and America will start cooperating with each other.

Republican and Democrat will start cooperating with each other.

President Trump and the Democrats are working together.

And Trump appears to be following the new age movement plan.

On the back of the dollar bill, announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

And both parties are dedicated to that plan.

And because of the Hegel System many people do not know there is a plan because of the opposition of them.

And they slowly move for years to make it seem like things are a coincidence and they have to do things for the benefit of the people, and then the opposing forces come together, and the people think they have to do that for it is the best way.

So while you fight Republican or Democrat they are working together.

tanakh · Apr 26, 2020

I wonder what all the Trump fans are going to do in 2024/25 when his term of office is over assuming we are still around because WW3/the rapture hasnt happened

bojack · Apr 26, 2020

tanakh said:

Don Jr. 2024 .. But I'm not sure if I want to live with a Sodom and Gomorah world, I never realized we were this far gone with these many anti-christs .. Or maybe I just refused to see it ..

Journeyman · Apr 26, 2020

watchman333 said:

President Trump has been attacked by the news media every day of his presidency. Four years....every single day.....for four years. I've never seen anything like it. It's satanic.

Kolistus · Apr 26, 2020

tanakh said:

Move on to the next president, if he claims to be a Christian while living in luxury and immorality like Trump we make him another guy who is against the illuminati. If its a democrat its going to be another antichrist candidate, mark of the beast, fema camps. You know the usual nonsense Christians just cannot stop, they have to make God look bad one way or another, just have to.

DBurrage · Apr 26, 2020

watchman333 said:

Have you seen a Presidential news conference lately, or any interaction President Trump might have with the news media? It is a fascinating spectacle. It seems the men and women of the media are no longer searching for the honest truth as their forebears did, they are searching to damage President Trump. If I said they were simply disingenuous and snarky it would be too complimentary. No, the media has an agenda, and that agenda is to trap the President into saying something wrong. They want to bring him down.

Their interactions with President Trump reminded me of what the scribes and Pharisees tried to do to our Savior when He walked the earth. Remember when they sent spies out to Lord Jesus trying to catch Him preaching some doctrine contrary to the Torah? They were not particular, anything they could claim as blasphemy would do. In the end, they were forced to send liars to convict Him when He stood at their fake trial.

We have the same vultures today who will say and do anything to win the next election. They want President Trump gone, period. Why? The Democrat Party want their power back, for power means money, and lots of it. The scribes and Pharisees were no different. Christ was taking away their money and power in tithes, offerings, prestige, respect, etc. They thought they would get away with it, but as Christ told them in Luke 11, verily I say unto you, it shall be required of this generation.

Here are the last verses of Luke, chapter 11, and explain how today's politicians and corrupt news media are acting any differently toward President Trump as the scribes and Pharisees acted toward our beloved Lord, Jesus Christ.

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. And as He said these things unto them, the scribes and Pharisees began to urge Him vehemently, and to provoke Him to speak of many things: Laying wait for Him, and seeking to catch something out of His mouth, that they might accuse Him. Luke 11:52

If anyone has President Trump's ear, because I don't, please pass this along to him.

Of course the media want to bring Trump down; he isn't of the establishment and furthermore, he has enough money of his own such that bribes from special interest groups cannot buy him.

presidente · Apr 26, 2020

There is a difference. Jesus lived a holy life, had not been married a lot of tomes, had not tweeted insults about womens looks, when he was reviled, reviled not again, etc.

But I get your point about media spin. Trump can get away with lambasting the media because it strikes a nerve with the public.

The media used to try to be unbiased. It has degenerated into this heavy spin sensational junk we have today. And I have seen journalists lamenting how Trump lambasts the press expecting the audience to empathize. One of the newscasters retiring lamented that, and I thought why didn't she comment on the death of professional journalism and lament that.

In the '80s they tried to ve unbias. The had a little left perspective. Dan Ratger would keep trying to figure out a way for a Dem to win the Whitehouse on election night but they tried to restrain personal bias. Now it is about how to spin the facts to make someone look bad.

I prefer Fox's spin but it is still spin. Spin an argument to make Trump look good. It frustrated me to have news channels and almost no news. Just one or two little topics about Trump and not kniwing what is challenging in the world. The hardly go anywhere, just sitting around all day beating the dead horse of a few talking points all day.

I have a million dollar idea--a channel dedicated to showing the news 24 hours.

presidente · Apr 26, 2020

Jesus was reviled and crucified. But he media spins the news with negative comments about Trump...or positive if we are talking about some of the Fox and radio commentators.

Not the same.

JaumeJ · Apr 26, 2020

So Bible discussion now includes partisan human politics? Gee I thought this would be against the rules?

Whispered · Apr 26, 2020

p_rehbein said:

The OP NEVER SAID Trump was JESUS!

You really had to go on the defensive about something never said in order to agree with the OP? Really? What the.....

Whispered · Apr 26, 2020

Well @watchman333 your OP fell to second page before I replied. Now you have a lot of attention, though not anything that appears to actually get what you're saying. How do people comprehend Jesus' parables when they don't get what you're saying? (Wait for it....

)
I guess Leftist slant media is contagious to all things in some discussions. The invented narrative and attack module focused on the inventor's narrative. A sad trend regardless of where we may find it.

MessageOfTheCross · Apr 26, 2020

Peter made a foolish statement about building three tabernacles, “one for Jesus, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.” However, the answer from above was quick in coming. God will not have even the greatest Saints associated with His Beloved Son in worship or teaching. Both Moses and Elijah were, in fact, immediately withdrawn and the Divine Voice said, “Hear Him, and Him Alone!”

The scripture says, "while he yet spoke, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold, a Voice out of the cloud, which said, This is My Beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased; hear ye Him (Mat. 17:5)."

President Trump whom I pray for daily for wisdom, guidance, and protection to lead this country, is not a type or shadow of Our Lord Jesus Christ!

MessageOfTheCross · Apr 26, 2020

The President needs council from above to help him! We are in the last of the last days. We have entered a time when level one problems (perilous times - 2 Tim. 3) will not be able to be solve with level one thinking. God will continue, on purpose, to make the wisdom of the world look foolish (1 Cor. 3:18).

Everything that man does dies; everything Jesus does lives forever and is blessed (Psalms 1:3).

If it's done in the flesh, it will consume the person, i.e., "the bush"; however, if it's done by the Power of the Holy Spirit, the bush will burn and not be consumed (Exodus 3:2, Romans 8:2).

Pray and ask Our Heavenly Father, to give you wisdom that brings the work of righteousness of peace, quietness, and assurance forever (Isa. 32:17).

MessageOfTheCross · Apr 26, 2020

We live by what Jesus Christ did by Grace through Faith who loved us and gave Himself for us at the Cross of Calvary where the victory was won (Rom. 6:3-5, Philippians 1:21); His Obedience (Philippians 2:8, John 10:18), His Faith (Gal. 2:20-21), and His Love (Faith works by Love -Gal. 5:6). It is not our obedience, not our faith, and not our love, that we live by (Rom. 8:2, Gal. 2:18). We are united with Christ, therefore, God doesn’t rehabilitate us, He eliminates us. The Holy Spirit moves in to give us power to live Holy that causes us to walk in the newness of life (Ezekiel 36:26-37, Romans 8:11). Only by Faith in the Blood of Jesus have we been given eyes to see (John 3:3-5) and only Faith in the Blood of Jesus will you continue be able to see and not go blind again (2 Peter 1:9).

Why did the Holy Sprite say through Paul, "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified (1 Corinthians 2:2)." Because that is the only way the Holy Sprite will help a Believer.

watchman333 · Apr 26, 2020

Whispered said:

I can see your point. There's a nasty rumor now going around that isn't even to be believed regardless of whom it is attributed to. But of course it is claimed "Trump said it". That people should inject themselves with Lysol to fight Corona virus.

That silliness didn't die with its first utterance. It's spread across the net.
And now with the lock down and stay at home orders, some states Governors claiming there will be a $1,000.00 fine against anyone who isn't wearing a mask, which does little to nothing to stop the spread of Covid19, things are getting really weird and out of hand.
News conferences with Trump are becoming adversarial. Reporters , for the Left media of course, abandoning professionalism and basic manners as they try to talk over Trump after he's answered their question with an answer they clearly don't accept.

It's nuts. I heard a blurb on a news program today that speculated since the primaries were cancelled due to Corona, but really are they needed when Joe Biden is the only Democrat left in the campaign, likely an on-line election will be necessary come November.

God forbid! The last mid-term election held across the country in usual style resulted in voter fraud and voting discrepencies by certain department of elections officials so as to insure Democrats got the majority in the House for the next two years. Can you imagine the mid-term and presidential election being conducted by computer? No chance of fraud and corruption there, right?

Hubby says and I agree that even serving to help in this crisis we both think there is something behind this. The economy was booming well and more so than under the last two presidents. Now it's suffering due to Corona measures in place. Of course it is all Trump's fault, as usual.
He could find a cure for cancer using his own money to fund the research and that be a news item next week. All the Left would see and report is, it's a publicity stunt to influence the November election. He selfishly held on to this cure information so as to time it to his re-election benefit!

I remember that verse, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it, when I think of the assault Trump's presidency has suffered since before he was even elected. Surely the gates of Hell opened and seek to this day to prevail against him and by proxy, America.
There's a reason it's called, the Left hand path, when referring to dark magic and Satanic witchcraft.

Hi Whispered. Thanks so much, I agree with everything you said and the good news is, most of America is beginning to understand the hypocrisy of the situation.

p_rehbein · Apr 26, 2020

tanakh said:

Well, rather than AA, I suspect they will be going to TA meetings........... (wonder what the 12 Steps for that will be?)

watchman333 · Apr 26, 2020

tanakh said:

That's easy Tanakh, we'll watch President Biden try to put 2 coherent sentences together and the joy in the Washington press corp when he does.

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