Are the pagan deities 'real'?

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Do you understand what a false dichotomy is?
I do now, but it still doesn’t answer any questions I asked you. Do you think being evasive makes you appear wiser because if you don’t answer anything conclusively it can’t be wrong?
 
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That's nice...I do not understand how it relates to my point. I need some intellectual understanding of something before I can put my faith in it.

Do you believe in luck?
Do you believe in fate?

Has anything ever happened in your life you have yet to figure out why you were not harmed or how you are still alive?
 
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I do now, but it still doesn’t answer any questions I asked you. Do you think being evasive makes you appear wiser because if you don’t answer anything conclusively it can’t be wrong?
Because those questions were framed in a logically fallacious manner.
 

Magenta

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Do I? Evidence this please
Tell us then, do you believe there is knowable absolute truth? Do you believe Jesus is Who He said He is?

BTW you have so far refused to answer a number of my questions to you while you hypocritically continue to put questions to me.
 

Blik

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Thank you for this answer. Should we stop observing Christmas, Easter and Hallowe'en as these are pagan festivals, none of which are prescribed to us by the Bible to observe?
I think that we, personally, and the church as a whole would gain much power by celebrating the salvation God offers us through celebrating as God asks us to. It would help us listen to what God says and close out what men tells us and give the peace, satisfaction, and feeling of cooperating with the Lord by listening only to Him and closing out what comes from the flesh.

It also would strength our family, both our family as God gave one to each of us and our family in the Lord as we worship together.
 
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Do I? Evidence this please


Have you ever made a logical decision, with the advice of others you deemed intelligent, and that decision ultimately cost you something you did not desire to lose?
 
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Because those questions were framed in a logically fallacious manner.
All questions I asked are not logically fallacious. You must have no beliefs worthy stating. You just enjoy not answering questions I guess. My journey has led me to conclude there is a larger picture with puzzle pieces in the Bible and not in the Bible. I was curious what puzzle pieces your journey uncovered for you but you aren’t here for discussion, just silly games. May your path lead you to the light of truth. I hope if you find it, or it finds you, you don’t play your literary games until it leaves you alone in the dark.
 
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Tell us then, do you believe there is knowable absolute truth? Do you believe Jesus is Who He said He is?

BTW you have so far refused to answer a number of my questions to you while you hypocritically continue to put questions to me.
There is absolute truth. Truth is truth. A is A. It is possible to know the truth.

No. To 'believe' is a positive action. I cannot truthfully say I believe Jesus 'is Who He said He is'.

Be mindful of how you phrase the questions you put to me.
 
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Have you ever made a logical decision, with the advice of others you deemed intelligent, and that decision ultimately cost you something you did not desire to lose?
I am sure I have.
 

Blik

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I wouldn't say never. Plenty of animal sacrifices to God in the old testament...
Just as it is today, in the OT they often followed the worldly.

The Lord asked for animal sacrifice as a symbol of Christ, and asked for it to be used in the same way we go to the sacrifice Christ made for our sin. When the people sacrificed in the same way the idol worshipers did, by offering food to their gods to satisfy them, God objected.

God explains in Isaiah 1:11 “The multitude of your sacrifices— what are they to me?” says the LORD. “I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.
 
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I wouldn't say never. Plenty of animal sacrifices to God in the old testament...
The system of sacrifices in the Old Testament were a way for man to regain purity and make atonement before the Christ, they were not a requirement by God. God wants obedience, like he has his prophet Samuel say. And it just makes common sense that if you obeyed you wouldn't really need to make a sacrifice.
 

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There is absolute truth. Truth is truth. A is A. It is possible to know the truth.

No. To 'believe' is a positive action. I cannot truthfully say I believe Jesus 'is Who He said He is'.

Be mindful of how you phrase the questions you put to me.
If you don’t believe that Yeshua is who He said He is, the reason is quite clear:

Then came Hanukkah; it was winter in Jerusalem. Yeshua was walking in the Temple around Solomon’s Colonnade. Then the Judean leaders surrounded Him, saying, “How long will You hold us in suspense? If You are the Messiah, tell us outright!” Yeshua answered them, “I told you, but you don’t believe! The works I do in My Father’s name testify concerning Me. But you don’t believe, because you are not My sheep. My sheep hear My voice. I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life! They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. And no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” (John 10:22-30 TLV).
 
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We all have. We have thoroughly imagined the outcome of some of our biggest and most important decisions throughout life. We have made the "what if," the "Do's and Don'ts," and listed the positives vs negatives in our preparation for many of these decisions. We even have our confidants, those we deem equally intelligent or more so than us. And had them to critique and add their own views and opinions. And still after all of that, we ended up losing more than we ever would have bargained against. Many of us possess higher IQ's than most, we can formulate, hypothesize, conclude, add variant from all directions. And we still end up losing while creating a worse off situation than before. That phenomena is what is known as living in sinking sand.. And it ultimately proves that we aren't as bright or have as much common sense that we believed.

I have made several decisions like what I have described that followed with great failure and cost all throughout my life. And yet, people still come to me for advice because they perceive I have intelligence. Today, thankfully, I have a Higher Intelligence that advises me. And every decision made by first going to that Higher Intelligence has not only worked, but it paid off to where I have always gained in my life.

What would it actually take to happen in your life for you to finally seek and try God? logical or not, what would it take?
 
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We all have. We have thoroughly imagined the outcome of some of our biggest and most important decisions throughout life. We have made the "what if," the "Do's and Don'ts," and listed the positives vs negatives in our preparation for many of these decisions. We even have our confidants, those we deem equally intelligent or more so than us. And had them to critique and add their own views and opinions. And still after all of that, we ended up losing more than we ever would have bargained against. Many of us possess higher IQ's than most, we can formulate, hypothesize, conclude, add variant from all directions. And we still end up losing while creating a worse off situation than before. That phenomena is what is known as living in sinking sand.. And it ultimately proves that we aren't as bright or have as much common sense that we believed.

I have made several decisions like what I have described that followed with great failure and cost all throughout my life. And yet, people still come to me for advice because they perceive I have intelligence. Today, thankfully, I have a Higher Intelligence that advises me. And every decision made by first going to that Higher Intelligence has not only worked, but it paid off to where I have always gained in my life.

What would it actually take to happen in your life for you to finally seek and try God? logical or not, what would it take?
Am I not here?

IF you mean to BELIEVE and have FAITH in God by which I may presume you mean the Christian God (Trinity or otherwise) I would have to make a circular argument: I would have to believe and to have faith.
 

Dino246

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Is that like a lobotomy?
In a sense, yes: it's the questioner expecting the responder to set aside his or her thinking in order to satisfy the demand, "Answer my question!". :)
 

Dino246

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There is absolute truth. Truth is truth. A is A. It is possible to know the truth.
That's a great place to start. Given that you believe in the existence of absolute truth, and that it can be known, what do you believe is the origin of information?