Closing the Gap in Dispensationalism
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This is true for the present. It does not apply to the time after the Second Coming of Christ.
Why do you want to do that?
That's my point. God did not want Adam or Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil ... that is why your claim that "we choose precisely what God wants" is in error.
When you claim that "we choose precisely what God wants based on the reasons he places before us" and then when someone explains to you that you are in error in your statement (Post #57), you should turn to Father and ask Him to help you understand what He wants you to understand.
Quit insisting that "we choose precisely what God wants" because it is wholly apparent that Adam did not choose "precisely what God wants".
If you continue to insist that "we choose precisely what God wants", the result is that your Bible falls apart at Genesis 2.
Don't blame God for Adam and Eve's downfall. God always provides a way to escape so that we are able to bear the temptation and not end up falling into the snare.Dave-L said:
Adam followed the instruction of Gen 2:25 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Adam joined Eve in her fallen state.Dave-L said:
God, in His infinite grace and mercy, made provision for the fall of man ... much to satan's dismay.
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So if His brith was His first coming...the time when He went up to the Father to sprinkled blood on the mercy seat just after His resurrection, His second coming; the destruction of Jerusalem His third coming (see Isaiah 19:1) to what number of His return does Matthew 10:23 refers to? when it says: "For I assure you: You will not have covered the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes".
I haven't heard about any 2000 year old disciples still walking around.
This doesn't explain the problem of evil.Why do you want to do that?
That's my point. God did not want Adam or Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil ... that is why your claim that "we choose precisely what God wants" is in error.
When you claim that "we choose precisely what God wants based on the reasons he places before us" and then when someone explains to you that you are in error in your statement (Post #57), you should turn to Father and ask Him to help you understand what He wants you to understand.
Quit insisting that "we choose precisely what God wants" because it is wholly apparent that Adam did not choose "precisely what God wants".
If you continue to insist that "we choose precisely what God wants", the result is that your Bible falls apart at Genesis 2.
Don't blame God for Adam and Eve's downfall. God always provides a way to escape so that we are able to bear the temptation and not end up falling into the snare.
Adam followed the instruction of Gen 2:25 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Adam joined Eve in her fallen state.
God, in His infinite grace and mercy, made provision for the fall of man ... much to satan's dismay.
How can the existence of God be harmonized with the existence of evil?" If God is all-good, He would want to destroy evil. If God is all-powerful, He is able to destroy evil. But evil still exists. It seems that God cannot be both all-good and all-powerful. However, Christianity teaches that He is both. This is the problem of evil."
He is speaking about the elect not perishing but being brought into the body of Christ. Check the audience he is speaking to.
What if you don't accept Christ? God saved me when I didn't want anything to do with Christ.
If I’m born again I’m a member of the body of Christ where there is no Jew or Gentile. That’s biblical.
2 Peter is to the Jews in the last days not the body of Christ. Btw, election has zero to do with salvation, but service.
You haven't yet realized the Church is Isreal. Not pagan Israel who hates Christ and exists as a body solely because of that.
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There is no work in salvation... it is as stated it is ceasing from work.
If you do not accept Christ you are still in a state of work.
As long as you think you can save yourself, you won't trust in Christ. You will trust in yourself (Martin Luther paraphrased).
If he holds all things together by the power of His invisible presence .The end is simply not here.
But God forms light .God is light. And not that he has the ability to form it when he switched on the temporal source .His glory departed when mankind chose to do the will of a creature seen. The first three days and he worked to create evil or tribulation under the Sun and Moon beginning on the 4th day . He would reveal his glory as Light and hide it to create darkness.
“Light” and “darkness” are the opposites of experience. It is the potential between these opposites which make experiences possible! Without darkness, there is no revelation of the light. It becomes the unknown number of potential ideas one can take between the two that gives rise to individual experiences. The Biblical a make it clear to us that God is also in the darkness.
The Holy Spirit uses Peter who what I call the the serial denier in the last chapter of John to emphasize the point .That if every time Jesus by the light of His living words coming from the father would be moved to record those dark experiences that he exposes by His light , that the earth would not be large enough to hold the volumes that could of ben written. He works it out according to his light. Creating peace that surpasses our understanding.
His word is light, the lamp unto our feet .
Form light create darkness . (our experiences) In the new heavens and earth .His glory will again be the light and the need of darkness has expired .No Sun and moon in the new. No night to represent evil .
God will not forget the good works we offer towards his name . We are under the Sun there is no work after. In the new heavens and earth the former things like a person name will not be remembered .Today is the day that they work to the good of those who love God's word .Offer them to Him not seen
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
Now is the time we can offer the good works that he works in us to both will and do His good pleasure. He says we should believe without murmuring. Like. . . "What about this log or that log in the other peoples eyes?" .
Its called the better things that accompany salvation. He remembers all the good works we do offer towards His name .No counting on our behalf. We are not of the number. He places the gold stars on the calendar of events
But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. Hebrew 6:9-10
Peter’s first letter is written doctrinally to the strangers in the last days. These strangers are Jews scattered throughout Asia Minor (Jeremiah 25:34, 1 Peter 1:18, 2:9-11, 3:6, 4:3). They will be foreigners in a strange land, probably dominated by the Muslim religion (Psalm 137:4). They will suffer great tribulation. The main theme is suffering joyfully for Jesus Christ.