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Not sure, but I'm leaving Ohio back to San Diego on Greyhound tonight. Please pray for a pleasing trip and safe return. Thanks and God bless you all.
There goes dinner, out my nose and onto the living room walls.Are you talking to me?
I suspect it is your lack of comprehension skills that makes me seem contradictory.
The believer has a down payment of the Holy Spirit, not the fullness:
"21 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." - 1 Corinthians 2:21-22
We get the rest in the age to come.
Once saved, always saved, as long as you keep believing.
Why can't you comprehend this?
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
"3We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar" - 1 John 2:3-4
What exactly is it that you disagree with here, @walknlight ?
How is 1 John 2:3 another gospel?
"3We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands." - 1 John 2:3
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EleventhHour
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Com'n now you know ..... the point is always the same .....
"Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the salvation loss blues....
so don't stop believin,
hold onto that feelin
to be saved people"
Ya but, you want to exclude:
(1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous)
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EleventhHour
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I am laughing at my own post 
... I guess that is a good thing except for that darn song is now stuck in my head!!
... I guess that is a good thing except for that darn song is now stuck in my head!!
I am laughing at my own post
How about one along the lines of:
Lost a wretch like me
I once was found and now I'm lost
Oh, oh woe is me
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EleventhHour
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I guess we would have to rewrite a ton of hymns to make it fit @Judges1318 holdin on salvation plan.
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G2RBeliever
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A wonderful amazing gift was given unto us,one which we didn't earn nor deserve. It was given out of love.
This gift holds the greatest love known to man. It severs our slavery to sin and sets us free from death's penalty.
However with this gift which is free, comes a covenant or contract,which in essence is an agreement between two parties.
In accepting this wonderful gift and covenant,there are clauses, for example we love Him because He first loved us and therefore we are to love our brethern.
This covenant holds much benefit for UPHOLDING our part,we get to be partakers with the Son of God,we are afforded protection,we have been granted access to the greatest power,a power that can SPEAK and it be so!
We can be enlightened and have understanding and wisdom in the teacher,the Holy Ghost!
We have someone who moves heaven and earth to help us grow strong in our belief in Him and his word.
HE offers us ALL by accepting this gift which makes us party to His covenant.
To receive all the promises,blessings,grace,mercy,forgiveness and whatever is bestowed on us for receiving said gift,we MUST meet ALL the requirements He asks of us!
Or else this gift is rejected and the covenant broken!
This gift holds the greatest love known to man. It severs our slavery to sin and sets us free from death's penalty.
However with this gift which is free, comes a covenant or contract,which in essence is an agreement between two parties.
In accepting this wonderful gift and covenant,there are clauses, for example we love Him because He first loved us and therefore we are to love our brethern.
This covenant holds much benefit for UPHOLDING our part,we get to be partakers with the Son of God,we are afforded protection,we have been granted access to the greatest power,a power that can SPEAK and it be so!
We can be enlightened and have understanding and wisdom in the teacher,the Holy Ghost!
We have someone who moves heaven and earth to help us grow strong in our belief in Him and his word.
HE offers us ALL by accepting this gift which makes us party to His covenant.
To receive all the promises,blessings,grace,mercy,forgiveness and whatever is bestowed on us for receiving said gift,we MUST meet ALL the requirements He asks of us!
Or else this gift is rejected and the covenant broken!