Not By Works

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Lightskin said:
Love isn’t work, it’s a fruit of the Spirit.
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"let us not love with words or speech but with actions" - 1 John 3:18

"10 God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. 11 We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end" - Hebrews 6:10-11
 
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Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man,but the end thereof are the ways of death.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him,I am the way,the truth,and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me.
 
EleventhHour said:
Wrong the OSAS made up nothing .... the literature of the time proves what the Perfect tense is, it has a time element ...the extended now ( ongoing results) .... stop making things up of which you know nothing.

You know you have to deny this fact to make your system work... however facts are facts and the study of language proves you wrong.
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This is why I had to stop talking to you before.

It's like you didn't even read my post.
 
EleventhHour said:
The righteousness of the law was fulfilled by Jesus.
His righteousness is imputed to the believer.
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If, in the end, this imputation of God's righteousness can not be seen in your life you do not have the imputation of God's righteousness that you think you have.

Ultimately, you can't be made a new creation in Christ and then not be a new creation growing up into the righteousness of the Spirit you have been given.
 
Judges1318 said:
"let us not love with words or speech but with actions" - 1 John 3:18

"10 God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. 11 We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end" - Hebrews 6:10-11
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You’re attempting to counter Scripture with Scripture. Love is not a work it is a fruit of the Spirit. That said however, I can see loving you could require some work. 😉
 
Lightskin said:
You’re attempting to counter Scripture with Scripture. Love is not a work it is a fruit of the Spirit. That said however, I can see loving you could require some work. 😉
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Love is a fruit that gets expressed in what we do.

"10 Love does no harm to a neighbor." - Romans 13:10

And so it is with the other things in the list of the fruit of the Spirit. They are attributes that find expression in what we do......if we let that happen and don't squelch the Spirit. For example, the person who says they are patient but who does not act patient isn't patient.
 
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Judges1318 said:
Then I'm curious what Hebrews 6:7-8 means to you.

"7 Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. 8 But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned." - Hebrews 6:7-8

Explain.
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i do not care about isolated, out-of-context verses.

what I do care about is truth.

the truth is, according to your lordship salvation garbage, when I look at the tress, the ones that have leaves on are alive ( showing works), the ones that do not are dead ( no works).

but, that is incorrect. the leaves do not prove life, the green flesh inside indicates life, not the amount of or types of leaves on the outside.

so, explain your theology fits into this truth ( if you can).
 
gb9 said:
i do not care about isolated, out-of-context verses.

what I do care about is truth.

the truth is, according to your lordship salvation garbage, when I look at the tress, the ones that have leaves on are alive ( showing works), the ones that do not are dead ( no works).

but, that is incorrect. the leaves do not prove life, the green flesh inside indicates life, not the amount of or types of leaves on the outside.

so, explain your theology fits into this truth ( if you can).
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IN THE END, making Christ Lord of you life, in action, not just in words, shows you belong to Him and are indeed saved.
Showy leaves do not show that. Fruit does.
The harvest of the land that is useful to the Master is the fruit of the land, not the leaves.
Christ cursed the fig tree for not having any fruit.
It had showy leaves, but no fruit.
But He did give it time to produce that fruit.
Ultimately, in the end, it did not.
 
EleventhHour said:
Yeah well ... I would read your posts more closely if you actually brought some good news of salvation in Christ Jesus
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Believing in Christ for the forgiveness of everything you could not be forgiven for under the law is the Good News of salvation.

39 Through him (Jesus) everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses." - Acts 13:39

Notice, that salvation is for everyone who believes (Present tense), not for those who have never believed, or who have stopped believing.
 
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