IT'S 1948! IT'S A MIRACLE!

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eternally-gratefull

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Secular Israel is not Biblical Israel. The stem from the Pharisees whom God rejected and removed from Israel.
You need to study more, and stop listening to people
 

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To the readers: note the contrast back and forth in the context of the entire 3-chapter section of Romans 9 thru 11 (re: "Israel [singular nation]" and "the Gentiles [plural nations]").
Then view the passage below:

Romans 11 -

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness [/a hardening] in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in [G1525;
...and note this phrase "the FULNESS of the Gentiles be come in" is DISTINCT from the phrase "the TIMES of the Gentiles be fulfilled" which by contrast speaks of "Gentile domination over Israel" which started in 606/605bc, think Neb's "dream/statue/image," with Neb as "head of gold"].

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance [/irrevocable].
 
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To the readers: note the contrast back and forth in the context of the entire 3 chapter section of Romans 9 thru 11 (re: "Israel [singular nation]" and "the Gentiles [plural nations]"). Then view the passage below:

Romans 11 -

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in [G1525;
...and note this phrase "the FULNESS of the Gentiles be come in" is DISTINCT from the phrase "the TIMES of the Gentiles be fulfilled" which by contrast speaks of "Gentile domination over Israel" which started in 606/605bc, think Neb's "dream/statue/image," with Neb as "head of gold"].

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance [/irrevocable].
Paul used himself as an example of a broken off believer reattached to Israel by faith in Christ.
 
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pottersclay

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We are Israel and we invite those who practice Judaism to join in by accepting Christ as the Messiah.
Mormonism runs deep in your faith.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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We are Israel and we invite those who practice Judaism to join in by accepting Christ as the Messiah.
This is not what it’s about

again, you are unlearned of what you consider your enemy teaches,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You don't understand.
He won’t as long as he refuses to humble himself

keep on him he will ignore you like he did me, he does not like being confronted
 
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eternally-gratefull

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One of us does not.
Yep it’s you

you can’t see that because you THINk you know what we believe and have faith in.

thats why you will never see
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This is believers only. Not those who hate Christ and exist only because of rejecting him.
No one said otherwise

again, your pride destroys your testimony
 
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eternally-gratefull

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all Israel includes gentiles and we preach the gospel to all nations (gentiles) until the world ends.
All isreal includes the natural branches, which includes the remnant and those blinded in part, as those blinded repent and recieve their messiah
 
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pottersclay

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In 70ad the scattering of the Jews took place. Just as prophecy declared.
In 1948 the regathering of Israel started just as prophecy declared.

We are grafted into the vine we are not bloodlined. By faith Abraham pleased God. We walk by faith.
In no way shape or form has God abandoned Israel. As God promised Israel shall be redeemed.
Israel is a burden to all nation's just as prophecy has declared. The nation's shall rise up against Israel just as prophecy declares. But God himself shall defend Israel. And one day they shall look upon him that was peirced.
I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you saith the Lord.

70 ad is just a example of what's to come. It is not the beginning of the great tribulation for Jesus said in that day it shall be like never before. The greatest of all sorrows and hurt and famine the world has ever seen. Unpresidented.
There is no history after the great tribulation that we can sit back and say wow what a dark day that is because Jesus will have come back to set up his kingdom.
The question asked is "what will be the sign of your coming. Not what will be the signs that say your coming.
Jesus said this generation shall not pass till all is fulfilled. What generation you ask? The generation that started in 1948 the regathering of Israel.
This theology this lie that 70 ad was the starting of the tribulation has infected the minds and teaching of many good brothers and sisters. Jesus declared the fall of the temple that not one stone shall be left upon another. Don't you think he would of said and when you see this the son of man will be back.
He pointed at this time in history to give the example of how devastating the coming tribulation will be.
The tribulation its self effects the whole world....global....everyone.....every nation....not just a part of it.
 
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In 70ad the scattering of the Jews took place. Just as prophecy declared.
In 1948 the regathering of Israel started just as prophecy declared.

We are grafted into the vine we are not bloodlined. By faith Abraham pleased God. We walk by faith.
In no way shape or form has God abandoned Israel. As God promised Israel shall be redeemed.
Israel is a burden to all nation's just as prophecy has declared. The nation's shall rise up against Israel just as prophecy declares. But God himself shall defend Israel. And one day they shall look upon him that was peirced.
I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you saith the Lord.

70 ad is just a example of what's to come. It is not the beginning of the great tribulation for Jesus said in that day it shall be like never before. The greatest of all sorrows and hurt and famine the world has ever seen. Unpresidented.
There is no history after the great tribulation that we can sit back and say wow what a dark day that is because Jesus will have come back to set up his kingdom.
The question asked is "what will be the sign of your coming. Not what will be the signs that say your coming.
Jesus said this generation shall not pass till all is fulfilled. What generation you ask? The generation that started in 1948 the regathering of Israel.
This theology this lie that 70 ad was the starting of the tribulation has infected the minds and teaching of many good brothers and sisters. Jesus declared the fall of the temple that not one stone shall be left upon another. Don't you think he would of said and when you see this the son of man will be back.
He pointed at this time in history to give the example of how devastating the coming tribulation will be.
The tribulation its self effects the whole world....global....everyone.....every nation....not just a part of it.
This is the physical kingdom view. Jesus refuted it saying the Kingdom is spiritual and not of this world.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Why would God "bless" those who deny Christ?
 

bojack

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Why would I deny the Holocaust?

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)

The Jews were slaughtered by and driven from over 100 nations since God's wrath fell on them in the siege of Jerusalem in AD 70. Jesus said it was the worst tribulation ever to befall them.
You deny a lot of stuff .. When and who is this ?
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
 
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“For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” Acts 3:22–23 (KJV 1900)
 

bojack

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“For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” Acts 3:22–23 (KJV 1900)
Nations that come against Jerusalem ? Who makes the 7 yr peace agreement and with who ?