The Age of the Universe

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Not if you live in their time, every evening and morning there is a twilight a period with visible light but no visible sun to see a shadow on a sundial that time is about 18min in the evening and morning. At night the people had to count stars to know what time it was called watches in the night.

does anybody today count stars at night no we have phones to tell your time?

If the day and night was cloudy they pretty had no choice but to guess the time.

Yes it important to know their mind set to know why scripture isn’t written the way it is.

I use a clock.

The ancients were far more savvy than you're giving them credit for.

 

[JamOn]

Adam didn't become a farmer and till the ground or irrigate until God cursed the ground, shrub of the field=farming

Adam farmed the trees like a orange tree farmer

Genesis 2
15Then the LORD God took the man and placed him in the Garden of Eden to cultivate and keep it.

 

[JamOn]

I use a clock.

The ancients were far more savvy than you're giving them credit for.

They used a sundial do you? No you use your phone

 

[eternally-gratefull]

They used a sundial do you? No you use your phone

Sundial still shows the sun move across the sky, tells time.

literal time..

 

[JamOn]

Again, this sounds like your just trying to make yourself believe something

you have no idea what people thought over 6000 years ago

evening and morning mean that, evening and morning period

I don’t make myself believe what kind of statement is that, I believe period.

and you do yea ok

 

[JamOn]

Sundial still shows the sun move across the sky, tells time.

literal time..

It does not tell the twilight period get your brain out of the mud

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

They used a sundial do you? No you use your phone

No I don't.
I don't have a mobile phone. They are not necessary for human life.
I use a clock.

The ancients had more than one way to account for the passing of time. You seem to be basing your idea of history on Hollywood.

 

[JamOn]

Try it for yourself on a clear morning sunrise when the light first appears stick a stick in the ground and see if you can tell the time you will not see a shadow

 

[JamOn]

No I don't.
I don't have a mobile phone. They are not necessary for human life.
I use a clock.

The ancients had more than one way to account for the passing of time. You seem to be basing your idea of history on Hollywood.

Ok what clock tell me what is made of? how do you use that clock.

Yes they did called the Polaris star the North Star but it is read backwards

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Ok what clock tell me what is made of? how do you use that clock

What is the matter with you?

 

[JamOn]

What is the matter with you?

You where so bold as to mention your clock so explain your clock. I know exactly what clock you use a modern clock don’t think your going to pull the wool over me not today or tomorrow

 

[JamOn]

I use a clock.

The ancients were far more savvy than you're giving them credit for.

You come in here make a statement like above and don’t even have the courage to explain it

 

[JamOn]

they where savvy with telling time and you don’t even know how they did it, that’s brilliant

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It does not tell the twilight period get your brain out of the mud

It does not have to to prove what a day is

get your brain out of resisting anything that would show you to be in error your making yourself look bad

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No I don't.
I don't have a mobile phone. They are not necessary for human life.
I use a clock.

The ancients had more than one way to account for the passing of time. You seem to be basing your idea of history on Hollywood.

Or making things up

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What is the matter with you?

He does not want to see anything which might show him wrong

 

[JamOn]

He does not want to see anything which might show him wrong

Sorry EG you don’t know me and what I think, and you want to stick to your guns yea the pot calling the kettle black beautiful statement EG

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Was there a world wide flood 4000 yrs ago that caused all the plants and animals to be buried in sediment to produce fossils and oil, coal, and gas deposits ?
If there's no evolution then the evidently aquatic creatures did what ?

Of course there was a massive extinction event and some very Earth changing events as the world in Noah's day was very different. It hadn't even rained ever before the flood. During this time there must of been some seismic activity as water rose up from beneath the crust (which is also scientifically proven)

It is also debated by what the word world meant because the ancients often spoke of localized or regional events in hyperbolic terms. One does not need to look too far for examples. Consider the following from the Old and New Testaments:

1. Genesis 41:57 – “And all the countries came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was severe in all the world.”
2. 1 Kings 10:24 – “The whole world sought audience with Solomon to hear the wisdom God had put in his heart.”
3. Luke 2:1 – “In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire world.”
4. John 12:19 – “So the pharisees said to one another, ‘See, this is getting us nowhere. Look how the whole world has gone after him!”
5. Acts 2:5 – “Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven.”
6. Romans 1:8 – “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.”
7. Colossians 1:6 – “All over the world this gospel is beairng fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and understood God’s grace in all its truth.”

The ancient Hebrews did not think of “the world” as being a spherical globe, as one would today. Rather, to say that God had “flooded the world” would be simply to say that God had “flooded the known world” or “the land”. Indeed, 2 Peter 3:6 reports that, “By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Again, evening and morning were the first day

God also when he gave the sabbath said, for 6 days work, on the 7th day rest, just like in 6 days God created on the seventh he rested

i would take what moses wrote literally and not try to make it some symbolic jester that means something else.

Where is the evening morning on the 7th day? It isnt there as in we are still in the 7th day.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

This is always fun to see how creation will always have the fingerprints of its creator hidden all throughout the creation.

But the most wonderful, evident, and historical truth of all is the life of Jesus Christ. Rather it be 12 hours, 24 hours, or a long period of time, we are called while it is still today to put our faith in Jesus Christ who repairs our broken state rich in sin, and replaces it with redemption, sanctification, and glorification.