The Age of the Universe

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Roughsoul1991

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If God created the plants on the 3rd evening/morning day and then the Sun on the 4th day, if it wasn't 24 hrs then how did the plants live for so long without photosynthesis
OECs see this as a exact event in history. The atmosphere of Earth was once very dark and thick. At a certain time there are these 1st type of plants that was able to grow in these conditions without light. Like the kind you see on the ocean floor. They began to produce oxygen. This oxygen changed the atmosphere and it became warmer, the sun broke through the atmosphere and more plants began to grow until oxygen levels peaked giving Earth its capabilities to sustain life.
 
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Can you imagine all the gold they may have found with todays tech , and kept quiet except when they need to sell a little ..
That’s for another topic, let’s talk about where pure gold comes from since it’s part of creation.
 

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if you heard billions of years. you heard wrong. this is a YEC theory He was probably saying what alot of scientists say, he then shows them wrong
I went back and watched it all with my headphones .. I apologize and thanks, I was wrong .. It is a very good video and I've learned a new perspective ..
 

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OECs see this as a exact event in history. The atmosphere of Earth was once very dark and thick. At a certain time there are these 1st type of plants that was able to grow in these conditions without light. Like the kind you see on the ocean floor. They began to produce oxygen. This oxygen changed the atmosphere and it became warmer, the sun broke through the atmosphere and more plants began to grow until oxygen levels peaked giving Earth its capabilities to sustain life.
How long ? give me your plus or minus in years .. And what kind of fruit tree can I get that needs no sun ?
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
 

Roughsoul1991

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How long ? give me your plus or minus in years .. And what kind of fruit tree can I get that needs no sun ?
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Scripture doesn't say how long as day could be a very long time in the Hebrew language. We are still in the 7th day. Everything I explained was a slow process. Over time the Earths atmosphere became less reflective and more plants began to grow. As more plants grew, this eventually allowed the sunlight to completely break through the atmosphere. Eventually when the elements was right, God began to create animal life in what we see in the fossil record as creation explosions. The death of all these animals before mankind was God preparing us for civilizing mankind as we was able to use the abundance of fossil fuels given to us by billions of years in plant and animal death.

You can see that on the 4th day of creation that is when the sun broke through and thus preparing the way for humans to be able to see the sun, moon, and stars to depict time.

Then came the first animal life which in the fossil record was evidently aquatic creatures. And so on so forth.
 
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Oxygen is a common element in the universe
I was talking about the great oxygen event. Wiki has an artical on that: "The Great Oxygenation Event (GOE) was the introduction of free oxygen into our atmosphere. It was caused by cyanobacteria doing photosynthesis. It took a very long time, from about three billion years ago to about one billion years ago. Photosynthesis was producing oxygen both before and after the GOE." This is where the red color comes from in the rocks and in clay.
 

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Scripture doesn't say how long as day could be a very long time in the Hebrew language. We are still in the 7th day. Everything I explained was a slow process. Over time the Earths atmosphere became less reflective and more plants began to grow. As more plants grew, this eventually allowed the sunlight to completely break through the atmosphere. Eventually when the elements was right, God began to create animal life in what we see in the fossil record as creation explosions. The death of all these animals before mankind was God preparing us for civilizing mankind as we was able to use the abundance of fossil fuels given to us by billions of years in plant and animal death.

You can see that on the 4th day of creation that is when the sun broke through and thus preparing the way for humans to be able to see the sun, moon, and stars to depict time.

Then came the first animal life which in the fossil record was evidently aquatic creatures. And so on so forth.
Was there a world wide flood 4000 yrs ago that caused all the plants and animals to be buried in sediment to produce fossils and oil, coal, and gas deposits ?
If there's no evolution then the evidently aquatic creatures did what ?
 
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Scripture doesn't say how long as day could be a very long time in the Hebrew language. We are still in the 7th day. Everything I explained was a slow process. Over time the Earths atmosphere became less reflective and more plants began to grow. As more plants grew, this eventually allowed the sunlight to completely break through the atmosphere. Eventually when the elements was right, God began to create animal life in what we see in the fossil record as creation explosions. The death of all these animals before mankind was God preparing us for civilizing mankind as we was able to use the abundance of fossil fuels given to us by billions of years in plant and animal death.

You can see that on the 4th day of creation that is when the sun broke through and thus preparing the way for humans to be able to see the sun, moon, and stars to depict time.

Then came the first animal life which in the fossil record was evidently aquatic creatures. And so on so forth.
scripture does say how long a day was

the evening and morning were the first day.

science shows the rotation of the earth has a huge deal on gravity. If it moved slower or faster, most likely we would not survive.
 
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I was talking about the great oxygen event. Wiki has an artical on that: "The Great Oxygenation Event (GOE) was the introduction of free oxygen into our atmosphere. It was caused by cyanobacteria doing photosynthesis. It took a very long time, from about three billion years ago to about one billion years ago. Photosynthesis was producing oxygen both before and after the GOE." This is where the red color comes from in the rocks and in clay.
What?

ocygen was created by God, because without it. no life as we know it would survive.
 
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I was talking about the great oxygen event. Wiki has an artical on that: "The Great Oxygenation Event (GOE) was the introduction of free oxygen into our atmosphere. It was caused by cyanobacteria doing photosynthesis. It took a very long time, from about three billion years ago to about one billion years ago. Photosynthesis was producing oxygen both before and after the GOE." This is where the red color comes from in the rocks and in clay.
Yes oxygen is produce from living organisms but oxygen did not start from organisms on earth, oxygen was created in the heavens when the earth was formless.
 
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Yes oxygen is produce from living organisms but oxygen did not start from organisms on earth, oxygen was created in the heavens when the earth was formless.
Oxygen was created by God when an atmosphere was created which will sustain life which was soon to be created.
 

Blik

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God has no beginning , physical creation had a beginning and God created it.. You can read all about it Genesis chapter 1 .. Whether or not you believe it is up to you .. God Bless
Of course, God created all things and our earth was created by God "in the beginning'. God tells us what that was in the beginning, in Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

God does not tell us when that beginning was in our kind of time. From this mass God explains step by step what He did to make it into the earth as we know it now.

I explained this carefully, how could you change that into that I don't know that God created our earth?
 
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Of course, God created all things and our earth was created by God "in the beginning'. God tells us what that was in the beginning, in Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

God does not tell us when that beginning was in our kind of time. From this mass God explains step by step what He did to make it into the earth as we know it now.

I explained this carefully, how could you change that into that I don't know that God created our earth?
I see it this way

god created the heavens and earth

and the earth was void...

this is the origional state of creation, the 6 day event explain how that void form was made into a planet which had life
 
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Oxygen was created by God when an atmosphere was created which will sustain life which was soon to be created.
Yes when the earth was formed marine plants convert carbon dioxide to oxygen it is the byproduct of the conversion, today that same process is still happening.

70% of earths oxygen comes from marine life, in the universe oxygen accounts for 1% of all atoms within the universe
 
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Yes when the earth was formed marine plants convert carbon dioxide to oxygen it is the byproduct of the conversion, today that same process is still happening.

70% of earths oxygen comes from marine life, in the universe oxygen accounts for 1% of all atoms within the universe
Yes but oxygen and plants were created together, remove one. there is no other
 
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Yes but oxygen and plants were created together, remove one. there is no other
Carbon dioxide and plants, plants convert it to oxygen first the plant needs carbon dioxide, oxygen in the universe is converted from supernova’s
 
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Carbon dioxide and plants, plants convert it to oxygen first the plant needs carbon dioxide, oxygen in the universe is converted from supernova’s
All the elements where present in creation

when God made the atmosphere, it had both CO2 and O2. They were created before there was any supernova
 
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All the elements where present in creation

when God made the atmosphere, it had both CO2 and O2. They were created before there was any supernova
The universe is a atmosphere that contains galaxies and other wonders, God created suns to do what they do, the sun knows when to go down because God created them to do so, thus other elements are born from the death of a star.
 

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I see it this way

god created the heavens and earth

and the earth was void...

this is the origional state of creation, the 6 day event explain how that void form was made into a planet which had life
Yes! 'And the very important thing we are to know, besides that if science gets it right they find out how God did what he did, and we know if science finds something that corrects how we read scripture, we are to know scripture tells it correctly. We sometimes come to the wrong conclusions about that scripture is saying like we did about scripture saying the world was flat because it spoke of the four corners of the earth.

Scripture and the dates of fossils could work together.

And it is important to understand the first day of creation when God explained what he did that first day as bringing owr. In Ancient Hebrew that word has much the same meaning as the Hebrew word shalom. We have no English word that means the same, it takes many english words like peace, harmony, goodness, etc.