Are All Angels the Same?

[Roughsoul1991]

And I name on book that is mentioned there are several books mentions, but you toss those like a toy

I name on book? I am not understanding your sentences. Toss what like a Toy? Are you saying because scripture referenced different sources automatically makes them inspired? So does all these books below need to be added in our Bible to be fully equipped for what God's will is for us? Or are we already fully equipped?

1. The Book of Wars, Num. 21:14
2. The Book of Jasher, Josh. 10:13
3. The Chronicles of David, 1 Chron. 27:24
4. The Book of the Kings of Israel and Judah, 2 Chron. 27:7; 35:27; 36:8
5. The Book of the Kings of Israel, I Chron. 9:1; 2 Chron. 20:34.
6. The Words of the Kings of Israel, 2 Chron. 33:18.
7. The Decree of David the King of Israel, 2 Chron. 35:4.
8. The Chronicles of Samuel the Seer, 1 Chron. 29:29
9. The Chronicles of Nathan the Prophet, 1 Chron. 29:29
10. The Book of Gad, 1 Chron. 29:29
11. The Book of the Prophet Iddo, 2 Chron. 13:22
12. The Words of Shemaiah the Prophet, 2 Chron. 12:15
13. The Deeds of Uzziah by Isaiah the Prophet, 2 Chron. 26:22; 32:32
14. The Book of Jehu, 2 Chron. 20:34
15. The Record book of Ahasuerus, Esther 2:23; 6:1
16. The Book of Remembrance, Mal. 3:16
17. The Book of Life, Dan. 12:1; Phil. 4:3; Rev. 20:11; 22:19
18. The Book of Judgment, Dan. 7:10; Rev. 20:12
19. The seven-sealed book, Rev. 5:1, 13.
20. An angel's book, Rev. 10:2

The apostle Paul was well-acquainted with Greek philosophy and often quoted Greek writers as he spread the gospel (Acts 17:23–28). New Testament writers also reference Greek philosophical concepts in order to better explain their ideas.

So does that automatically make the Greek philosophers or philosophical ideas inspired and we should completely digest all there teachings also?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I have nothing more to say to neither of you two, burn those Roman shoes

Thank you.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

After God drove Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden, "He stationed cherubs at the east of the garden of Eden, and a fiery sword which turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life" (Genesis 3:24).

Did you want scripture to state, for your personal satisfaction, that seraphim and cherabim are angels? Scripture tells us they exist, what do you say these are?

I believe from scripture it is obvious to see these are part of the Angelic host within Heaven. But what makes one search outside of the Bible to try and learn things about Angels or Heaven if the Bible doesn't include it?

Faith is required and God doesn't provide all the details. Neither does them details about Angels change anything dealing with soul salvation.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

And your not a man of word for there are books mentioned but you fail in seeing them as something of God.

I'm not a man of Word for believing the Bible is the infallible inspired Word of God? Lol this is proving my point why these gnostic sources are dangerous.

 

[JamOn]

I'm not a man of Word for believing the Bible is the infallible inspired Word of God? Lol this is proving my point why these gnostic sources are dangerous.

A poster showed you in Scripture about Enoch, what I posted to you is about those 20 books you posted as well. those are not gnostic. where are you getting gnostic from I didn’t mention it

 

[JamOn]

And your use of Roman sandals is appalling, in your sandal thread, the romans were ruthless sandals of peace, you glorify the same ones who ripped skin off the back of people

 

[JamOn]

I name on book? I am not understanding your sentences. Toss what like a Toy? Are you saying because scripture referenced different sources automatically makes them inspired? So does all these books below need to be added in our Bible to be fully equipped for what God's will is for us? Or are we already fully equipped?

1. The Book of Wars, Num. 21:14
2. The Book of Jasher, Josh. 10:13
3. The Chronicles of David, 1 Chron. 27:24
4. The Book of the Kings of Israel and Judah, 2 Chron. 27:7; 35:27; 36:8
5. The Book of the Kings of Israel, I Chron. 9:1; 2 Chron. 20:34.
6. The Words of the Kings of Israel, 2 Chron. 33:18.
7. The Decree of David the King of Israel, 2 Chron. 35:4.
8. The Chronicles of Samuel the Seer, 1 Chron. 29:29
9. The Chronicles of Nathan the Prophet, 1 Chron. 29:29
10. The Book of Gad, 1 Chron. 29:29
11. The Book of the Prophet Iddo, 2 Chron. 13:22
12. The Words of Shemaiah the Prophet, 2 Chron. 12:15
13. The Deeds of Uzziah by Isaiah the Prophet, 2 Chron. 26:22; 32:32
14. The Book of Jehu, 2 Chron. 20:34
15. The Record book of Ahasuerus, Esther 2:23; 6:1
16. The Book of Remembrance, Mal. 3:16
17. The Book of Life, Dan. 12:1; Phil. 4:3; Rev. 20:11; 22:19
18. The Book of Judgment, Dan. 7:10; Rev. 20:12
19. The seven-sealed book, Rev. 5:1, 13.
20. An angel's book, Rev. 10:2

The apostle Paul was well-acquainted with Greek philosophy and often quoted Greek writers as he spread the gospel (Acts 17:23–28). New Testament writers also reference Greek philosophical concepts in order to better explain their ideas.

So does that automatically make the Greek philosophers or philosophical ideas inspired and we should completely digest all there teachings also?

Those books above are not Greek philosophy ideas or anything else those are from Old Testament long before any Greek philosophy, you insult those verses with your ignorant ideas

 

[Dino246]

Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

After God drove Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden, "He stationed cherubs at the east of the garden of Eden, and a fiery sword which turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life" (Genesis 3:24).

Did you want scripture to state, for your personal satisfaction, that seraphim and cherabim are angels? Scripture tells us they exist, what do you say these are?

I see no need to categorize things that Scripture doesn't explicitly categorize, and I don't embrace the categorizations that others impose, but that has nothing to do with my "personal satisfaction". Rather, it's just taking Scripture at face value. Cherubim and seraphim are nonhuman, sentient beings that exist in the heavenly realms and serve God in various ways.

 

[Whispered]

I haven't read a word about Jews rejecting this book, new information to me. I did read the minutes of the council of the church the Catholics claim as theirs who today's scholars follow when they repeat the rejection.

It's an interesting proposition really. Men in their councils and over a period of something near to 1500 years elected what scriptures would become the Bible we know today. Then they closed the Canon so as to declare, by their opinions, that God had no thing else to say to humanity. And yet, the 1611 KJV included the Apocryphal books that are often dismissed by Christians today as not of the true Canon. Though the Etheopian Bible does have the Book of Enoch included as well as other books not found in the Canon.
The Book of Enoch Online - Hidden Bible
And if the scriptures being reviewed were all God breathed, what authority then did mere men have to decide what of that which God said through inspiration to those making record of it, was fit to be later bound and distributed and called, God's word?

Why Did The Vatican Remove 14 Books From The Bible in 1684?

 

[JamOn]

The apostle Paul was well-acquainted with Greek philosophy and often quoted Greek writers as he spread the gospel (Acts 17:23–28). New Testament writers also reference Greek philosophical concepts in order to better explain their ideas.

So does that automatically make the Greek philosophers or philosophical ideas inspired and we should completely digest all there teachings also?

Paul didn’t often quote Greek writers he saw a alter with the inscription once not often. that is your deluded mind thoughts

 

[JamOn]

It's an interesting proposition really. Men in their councils and over a period of something near to 1500 years elected what scriptures would become the Bible we know today. Then they closed the Canon so as to declare, by their opinions, that God had no thing else to say to humanity. And yet, the 1611 KJV included the Apocryphal books that are often dismissed by Christians today as not of the true Canon. Though the Etheopian Bible does have the Book of Enoch included as well as other books not found in the Canon.
The Book of Enoch Online - Hidden Bible
And if the scriptures being reviewed were all God breathed, what authority then did mere men have to decide what of that which God said through inspiration to those making record of it, was fit to be later bound and distributed and called, God's word?

Why Did The Vatican Remove 14 Books From The Bible in 1684?

Good point Whispered in my opinion I think the Pharisees did the same with the OT long ago.

 

[Blik]

I have great trust in the Bible the Word of God. If you believe the Bible isn't accurate, corrupted or missing information then we have a HUGE problem making the Bible a fallible and inaccurate source because as you said men wrote it. Well, then you best throw out the whole thing because how do you know men ain't corrupted it since the beginning?

what assumptions, what nonsense. I believe in everything the Lord says, I question everything man says.

 

[Blik]

I believe from scripture it is obvious to see these are part of the Angelic host within Heaven. But what makes one search outside of the Bible to try and learn things about Angels or Heaven if the Bible doesn't include it?

Faith is required and God doesn't provide all the details. Neither does them details about Angels change anything dealing with soul salvation.

Because there is a serious question about whether the books you are tossing out as not to be thought about, even is true or not. If they are true, and there is reason to believe some of it is true, then it is something we can profit by knowing. If we learn what they say, it is not a sin to think about it. What they say can be checked with what we know is from the Lord, that helps us evaluate them. It is absolute foolishness to clean these things out of our minds because some man told us the book they were put in isn't scripture. Other men have stated they are scripture and you are swallowing that hook, line, and sinker with no questions. You are even wiping what is in the scripture you accept out of your mind telling it Lord you don't want to hear it!

 

[Whispered]

Good point Whispered in my opinion I think the Pharisees did the same with the OT long ago.

Imagine the stoke to the ego of man to think they are able to decide what God has to say to His children. And what, in their power to do, His children shall never learn. TakingEditing God at His word.

 

[JamOn]

Some people say God wouldn’t have allowed that to happen. I think God allowed Adam and Eve to do what they did, God gives His word and it’s up to people to use it wisely or not use it at all. And today it is quite the task to read between the lines cause man has mangled things for a long time. I think it’s mostly about having power and control.

At one time not long ago, mechanical statues that moved or secreted fluids, was a big underground business in supplying churches with those moveable statues,

 

[garee]

what assumptions, what nonsense. I believe in everything the Lord says, I question everything man says.

You believe everything the lord said as it is written from Genesis through Revelation .Or according to the oral traditions of men called the law of the fathers.

Can't serve two masters.

 

[garee]

Some people say God wouldn’t have allowed that to happen. I think God allowed Adam and Eve to do what they did, God gives His word and it’s up to people to use it wisely or not use it at all. And today it is quite the task to read between the lines cause man has mangled things for a long time.

He did allow them to work out the wage of their rebellion , death according to the letter of the law . In dying you will die.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Do you believe the Bible is the inspired 100% infallible Word of God?

Because it couldn't be if books are lefts out. The Spirit would be no longer in it and sustaining it. How could you trust the current Bible? What else has been taken or what else is missing?

I believe God is powerful enough to sustain His Word and protect His message.

Yes, God is powerful enough to sustain His word. But as I said, Enoch was indeed apart of the scriptures up to the third century which is supported by Jude quoting Enoch. It may be that God used those men to retrieve the Ethiopic Enoch version, to restore it to the Holy cannon.

To me it reads like scripture, inspired by the Holy Spirit.

 

[garee]

Yes, God is powerful enough to sustain His word. But as I said, Enoch was indeed apart of the scriptures up to the third century which is supported by Jude quoting Enoch. It may be that God used those men to retrieve the Ethiopic Enoch version, to restore it to the Holy cannon.

To me it reads like scripture, inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Jude did not quote Enoch. He quoted the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit informs of what word he gave to Enoch just like the words he gave to any prophet .

Nothing about being in a Book of Enoch. Simply the words he put on his lips.

 

[blueluna5]

Do you believe the Bible is the inspired 100% infallible Word of God?

Because it couldn't be if books are lefts out. The Spirit would be no longer in it and sustaining it. How could you trust the current Bible? What else has been taken or what else is missing?

I believe God is powerful enough to sustain His Word and protect His message.

Why would missing a book take away from the the current Bible?

I haven't decided if I agree with the Enoch book. However I do find it interesting it mentions being found in a much future generation during the end of times.

I'm not comfortable with the all of the astronomy references in it and the parables don't strike me as ones like Jesus spoke. So I find it confusing.

But God speaks in so many ways. There's no way to contain him in any book quite honestly.