On this Virus from China

[GaryA]

Well you cannot just state viruses do not exist without at least some reason for thinking that way.

If I were to make such a statement, you can "bet your bottom dollar" that I would have a reason for thinking that way.

If I make some statement - and, you do not understand "why I think that way":

~ Am I automatically wrong?

~ Is there even the most remote chance I could possibly be right?

~ Might you be genuinely interested in understanding why I think that way?

 

[EleventhHour]

If I were to make such a statement, you can "bet your bottom dollar" that I would have a reason for thinking that way.

If I make some statement - and, you do not understand "why I think that way":

~ Am I automatically wrong?

~ Is there even the most remote chance I could possibly be right?

~ Might you be genuinely interested in understanding why I think that way?

Never said you were wrong.
Just adding to your ideas.
I am a well versed in every and all conspiracy theories.
All good.

 

[Moses_Young]

Bacteria behaves very differently in the body.
Yes doctors cannot determine what you have unless they do further tests.

They like to cover all the basis.. having said this doctors no longer prescribe antibiotics so quickly because of the threat of super bugs.

This is what I am saying. Viruses (as commonly believed) have never been proven. Microbiologists don't have to lie - they just need to be convinced that something which is not a virus is a virus. As stated, a homogenous virus has never been isolated (as verified by electron microscope), and demonstrated to cause the symptoms in a test subject that the virus is claimed to have. So either there are no such thing as viruses, or if there are, we don't need to worry about them. There is more to viruses than we understand, and this lack of knowledge means the panic displayed is unjustified (if we really believe this sickness is due to a virus).

If it's due to something else (bacteria, toxins, etc.) there are other, more suitable methodologies to fight these.

 

[JohnR7]

Another of the fundamental principles of communism is control of all transport by the state.

They are more afraid of the Virus then they are of the communist Government. The Communists are starting to lose control.

 

[HeraldtheNews]

My sources are saying millions infected and more than 112,000 dead already.....It seems it cause drastic organ failure, destroys the kindeys rather quickly and people are dropping dead left right and center....no burials as all bodies are being cremated and it is far worse than we are being told.....

What are you hearing?

I'm hearing it's a bad flu, not a problem here
A Corona beer and some Chinese food and prayer. I did not hear it is fatal at all

 

[17Bees]

I'm hearing it's a bad flu, not a problem here
A Corona beer and some Chinese food and prayer. I did not hear it is fatal at all

It can be fatal. It's apparently lower respiratory and one of the main symptoms differentiating this flu from others is shortness of breath. So, a lot of people with little access to health care or poor folks or those with compromised health or even healthy people who ignore the symptoms in some way can be in real trouble real quick.

 

[dcontroversal]

I'm hearing it's a bad flu, not a problem here
A Corona beer and some Chinese food and prayer. I did not hear it is fatal at all

Ummmmm yeah Ok.....let me just say the following....

A. Numerous countries have banned all flights to and from China

B. China has 500 million people quarantined and at least 60 cities blockaided. (Reported on many news sites)

C. The U.S. military has 9 to 11 quarantine spots set up at military bases next to major international airports.

D. North Korea is executing people that get it and bave declared martial law

e. China has ordered millions of body bags and is SPRAYING BLEACH from the AIR to try and disinfect entire cities...

F. Many TOP infectious doctors including WHO is saying that if this gets into Africa and then really spreads to the rest of the world it will be a global pandemic and could wipe out 100's of millions of people and be far worse than the FLU OF 1918 which killed 30 to 50 million people world wide!

etc..

Whoever you are listening to needs to lay off the weed.......the ABOVE does not happen if it is not far worse than they are reporting...

 

[JamOn]

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Ummmmm yeah Ok.....let me just say the following....

A. Numerous countries have banned all flights to and from China

B. China has 500 million people quarantined and at least 60 cities blockaided. (Reported on many news sites)

C. The U.S. military has 9 to 11 quarantine spots set up at military bases next to major international airports.

D. North Korea is executing people that get it and bave declared martial law

e. China has ordered millions of body bags and is SPRAYING BLEACH from the AIR to try and disinfect entire cities...

F. Many TOP infectious doctors including WHO is saying that if this gets into Africa and then really spreads to the rest of the world it will be a global pandemic and could wipe out 100's of millions of people and be far worse than the FLU OF 1918 which killed 30 to 50 million people world wide!

etc..

Whoever you are listening to needs to lay off the weed.......the ABOVE does not happen if it is not far worse than they are reporting...

I don’t think we are getting the complete story either, China is known to hide things

 

[Moses_Young]

Ummmmm yeah Ok.....let me just say the following....

A. Numerous countries have banned all flights to and from China

And most of the world believes in evolution. It doesn't make them right.

B. China has 500 million people quarantined and at least 60 cities blockaided. (Reported on many news sites)

Pretty much everyone in China has been locked up in that Communist hell-hole for decades. The only difference is that now China is making out that they're doing it for a good cause.

C. The U.S. military has 9 to 11 quarantine spots set up at military bases next to major international airports.

The US military has been setting up concentration camps for years. This might just be their opportunity to go try some out without folks getting too dark about constitutional violations etc.

D. North Korea is executing people that get it and bave declared martial law

I'm not sure how we can confirm that, but even if we could, hasn't this one been a murderous regime for decades?

e. China has ordered millions of body bags and is SPRAYING BLEACH from the AIR to try and disinfect entire cities...

I wonder who they ordered all the body bags from. Wouldn't they produce their own? As for the pollution with bleach, China have been polluting with much worse, for a lot longer.

F. Many TOP infectious doctors including WHO is saying that if this gets into Africa and then really spreads to the rest of the world it will be a global pandemic and could wipe out 100's of millions of people and be far worse than the FLU OF 1918 which killed 30 to 50 million people world wide!

You might have missed the post before, but the so-called Spanish flu of 1918 was due to vaccines. Don't take the vaccine, and you've got a much better chance of staying healthy.

etc..

Whoever you are listening to needs to lay off the weed.......the ABOVE does not happen if it is not far worse than they are reporting...

I hope the above wasn't offensive, as it wasn't meant to be. But people just need to chill. I don't condone weed, but if some of the panicking people actually did take a little, maybe they'd be able to think a little less anxiously, and realise that the sky isn't actually falling, and know that if they're not careful, they might just end up in the foxes lair over an acorn and a few hysterical chooks.

 

[EleventhHour]

I'm hearing it's a bad flu, not a problem here
A Corona beer and some Chinese food and prayer. I did not hear it is fatal at all

Thousands upon thousands (approx 12, 000 yearly in the USA) of people die from influenza every year, so do not underestimate the seriousness of influenza.

I think it is rather sad how you make light of this situation, there are many impoverished people, malnourished, weakened people in this world and many developing countries will not have the required resources to deal with this epidemic,
North Korea and Africa being prime examples.

They will be many deaths from secondary infections that will require antibiotics which will not be available to them.

The death toll will be tragic.

I am not really sure how you can advise, in such a lighthearted tone, to have a beer and Chinese food in light of the suffering in China right now.
Easy to state when you are far removed I guess.

 

[EleventhHour]

This is what I am saying. Viruses (as commonly believed) have never been proven. Microbiologists don't have to lie - they just need to be convinced that something which is not a virus is a virus. As stated, a homogenous virus has never been isolated (as verified by electron microscope), and demonstrated to cause the symptoms in a test subject that the virus is claimed to have. So either there are no such thing as viruses, or if there are, we don't need to worry about them. There is more to viruses than we understand, and this lack of knowledge means the panic displayed is unjustified (if we really believe this sickness is due to a virus).

If it's due to something else (bacteria, toxins, etc.) there are other, more suitable methodologies to fight these.

We can see bacteria under a microscope and it can be grown in a petri dish.

I just cannot believe that every and all epidemiologist, micro biologist, scientists all over the world are in on some conspiracy covering up what a virus is.

 

[EleventhHour]

This is what I am saying. Viruses (as commonly believed) have never been proven. Microbiologists don't have to lie - they just need to be convinced that something which is not a virus is a virus. As stated, a homogenous virus has never been isolated (as verified by electron microscope), and demonstrated to cause the symptoms in a test subject that the virus is claimed to have. So either there are no such thing as viruses, or if there are, we don't need to worry about them. There is more to viruses than we understand, and this lack of knowledge means the panic displayed is unjustified (if we really believe this sickness is due to a virus).

If it's due to something else (bacteria, toxins, etc.) there are other, more suitable methodologies to fight these.

Organisms smaller than bacteria have been known to exist since the late 19th century (11), but the first EM visualization of a virus came only after the electron microscope was developed. Ernst Ruska, with his mentor Max Knoll, built the first electron microscope in 1931 as the project for his Ph.D. thesis. Eight years later, Ruska and colleagues Kausche and Pfankuch were the first to visualize viruses (tobacco mosaic virus) with the EM (47), and in 1986, Ruska shared the Nobel Prize with Binnig and Rohr, developers of the scanning tunneling electron microscope.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2772359/


Seriously do you think all scientific journals and labs across the entire globe are acting in unison to create this false narrative of yours.

This is the problem with conspiracy theories soon there is no reality left, once one travels down that rabbit hole for too long.

 

[GaryA]

I am a well versed in every and all conspiracy theories.

This is the problem with conspiracy theories soon there is no reality left, once one travels down that rabbit hole for too long.

When you have gained proper-and-sufficient knowledge and understanding of the reality we all live in, you will be able to "graduate" from conspiracy 'theory' to conspiracy 'fact' - because, you will be able to discern between the two.

Your 'no reality left' remark in the second quote above illustrates your reluctance - and possible inability - to remove yourself far enough from the 'reality' that you do not wish to let go of --- as if --- "conspiracy theory" caused 'reality' to diminish or disappear.

There is plenty of reality left (it has not gone anywhere) - only, it is not what you are used to dealing with as reality in your [own] mind.

The 'reality' that you do not wish to let go of --- is not reality.

You have to "come to terms" with it.

You may be "well versed" in "conspiracy theory", but I seriously doubt you have been convinced to actually believe any of it.

You haven't put enough of the pieces together yet (so-to-speak) for anything to make enough sense to "cause the light to go on" in your mind.

You are considering it with 'fear-factor' reactionary thinking rather than 'Sherlock-Holmes' logical reasoning.

Cast away all sense of fear.
Pay close attention to detail.
Be truly honest with yourself.

Let go of the 'reality' you have been brainwashed-all-your-life into believing -- very little of it is actually real.

It is not easy to do (at first); however, you must learn to do it if you are to ever clearly see our reality as it really is.

 

[EleventhHour]

When you have gained proper-and-sufficient knowledge and understanding of the reality we all live in, you will be able to "graduate" from conspiracy 'theory' to conspiracy 'fact' - because, you will be able to discern between the two.

Your 'no reality left' remark in the second quote above illustrates your reluctance - and possible inability - to remove yourself far enough from the 'reality' that you do not wish to let go of --- as if --- "conspiracy theory" caused 'reality' to diminish or disappear.

There is plenty of reality left (it has not gone anywhere) - only, it is not what you are used to dealing with as reality in your [own] mind.

The 'reality' that you do not wish to let go of --- is not reality.

You have to "come to terms" with it.

You may be "well versed" in "conspiracy theory", but I seriously doubt you have been convinced to actually believe any of it.

You haven't put enough of the pieces together yet (so-to-speak) for anything to make enough sense to "cause the light to go on" in your mind.

You are considering it with 'fear-factor' reactionary thinking rather than 'Sherlock-Holmes' logical reasoning.

Cast away all sense of fear.
Pay close attention to detail.
Be truly honest with yourself.

Let go of the 'reality' you have been brainwashed-all-your-life into believing -- very little of it is actually real.

It is not easy to do (at first); however, you must learn to do it if you are to ever clearly see our reality as it really is.

Well you are able to prove that every medical
virologist, epidemiologist, doctor, microbiologist, etc., etc., is part of this conspiracy then I will listen.

 

[EleventhHour]

When you have gained proper-and-sufficient knowledge and understanding of the reality we all live in, you will be able to "graduate" from conspiracy 'theory' to conspiracy 'fact' - because, you will be able to discern between the two.

Your 'no reality left' remark in the second quote above illustrates your reluctance - and possible inability - to remove yourself far enough from the 'reality' that you do not wish to let go of --- as if --- "conspiracy theory" caused 'reality' to diminish or disappear.

There is plenty of reality left (it has not gone anywhere) - only, it is not what you are used to dealing with as reality in your [own] mind.

The 'reality' that you do not wish to let go of --- is not reality.

You have to "come to terms" with it.

You may be "well versed" in "conspiracy theory", but I seriously doubt you have been convinced to actually believe any of it.

You haven't put enough of the pieces together yet (so-to-speak) for anything to make enough sense to "cause the light to go on" in your mind.

You are considering it with 'fear-factor' reactionary thinking rather than 'Sherlock-Holmes' logical reasoning.

Cast away all sense of fear.
Pay close attention to detail.
Be truly honest with yourself.

Let go of the 'reality' you have been brainwashed-all-your-life into believing -- very little of it is actually real.

It is not easy to do (at first); however, you must learn to do it if you are to ever clearly see our reality as it really is.

I bet I know more than you about conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge ..... we could start with who shot JFK?

 

[Moses_Young]

Organisms smaller than bacteria have been known to exist since the late 19th century (11), but the first EM visualization of a virus came only after the electron microscope was developed. Ernst Ruska, with his mentor Max Knoll, built the first electron microscope in 1931 as the project for his Ph.D. thesis. Eight years later, Ruska and colleagues Kausche and Pfankuch were the first to visualize viruses (tobacco mosaic virus) with the EM (47), and in 1986, Ruska shared the Nobel Prize with Binnig and Rohr, developers of the scanning tunneling electron microscope.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2772359/


Seriously do you think all scientific journals and labs across the entire globe are acting in unison to create this false narrative of yours.

This is the problem with conspiracy theories soon there is no reality left, once one travels down that rabbit hole for too long.

I don't dispute this - I'm accepting it based on trust. But..... Were the viruses homogenously isolated? If not, which bits were the virus, and which bits were something else? And, if homogenously isolated, was the confirmed "virus" then injected into test subjects to confirm it produced the symptoms associated with the virus? If not, how does anyone know it was actually the "virus" that was actually identified with the electronic microscope, and not something else? (In other words, if not done, how do we know that it is the virus actually causing disease?) If this was done, why wasn't it documented?

You should understand that there is more to "science" than meets the eye - there is science fact, and "science" theory. What you believe is conspiracy theory is often just weeding out the unproven theory, and suggesting an alternative and more appropriate one that better fits more of the facts (e.g. via use of Occam's razor).

 

[mailmandan]

I keep hearing people refer to the coronavirus as, "germ warfare that has gotten out of control by those who made it."

 

[Moses_Young]

I keep hearing people refer to the coronavirus as, "germ warfare that has gotten out of control by those who made it."

It has been said in conspiracy circles for years (probably decades) that part of the NWO plan was that "China would catch a cold". I believe this (Corona virus) is the event being referred to, whether it's truly an engineered disease, or an engineered belief about a disease. With what appears to be an over-reaction to a flu-like illness, I'm leaning toward the latter.

 

[GaryA]

Well you are able to prove that every medical
virologist, epidemiologist, doctor, microbiologist, etc., etc., is part of this conspiracy then I will listen.

You are most definitely "not listening" - that much is certain...


There is no requirement for every . . . to be a ["knowing"] part of any conspiracy. Most people are at least somewhat gullible and are easily guided by the "invisible hand"...

The absolute majority of all doctors probably believe that vaccines can only help people. However, I know of one doctor whose research says that ALL vaccines - because of the nature of how they are assimilated into the body - cause brain damage - aside from, and without regard to, the contents of the vaccine.

He also says that every different kind of "brain disease" (Lou Gehrig's, Parkinson's, etc.) is the very same thing affecting different parts of the brain.

He also says that the series of vaccines given to babies shortly after birth can/will cause autism.

Just exactly why do you think there has been an explosion of "brain diseases" - and autism - in the past few decades?????

Vaccines are the cause of a-whole-lotta-misery in this world.

Your use of the words "this conspiracy" shows that you are not looking at a large-enough picture -- "this conspiracy" is not a singular stand-alone conspiracy -- it is merely one 'play' in a very strategic agenda-based game being played by the minions of Satan.

 

[GaryA]

I bet I know more than you about conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge ..... we could start with who shot JFK?

Do tell...

(If you are out to prove something.)