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Do you think it possible to realise before yo die, that you can only speak for yourself. Its actually not possible. That is why we have to die daily with Christ to cease from ourselves, and enter the wisdom of God, but thank for explaining as I did not quite understand what motivated you except that if people didn't learn your language you would persecuted them. I though it was more the doctrine of nicolaitanes: dictator conqueror. Tho I suppose it's much the same.
It looks like the key is to consider, both, the tense of the verbs and the moods of those verbs together.
The Hebrews references you cite do not trip me up. They are problematic for osas because that doctrine has to explain why the writer tells unbelievers to continue in a profession of faith and hope that is fake and has never been real. Can you explain that?
"let us hold firmly to the faith we profess." - Hebrews 4:14
"23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful" - Hebrews 10:23
"35 Therefore, do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward." - Hebrews 10:35
Why is it faulty?
The faulty logic is saying the flashlight that shines forever means I will always have that flashlight.
That's totally illogical.
The Hebrews references you cite do not trip me up. They are problematic for osas because that doctrine has to explain why the writer tells unbelievers to continue in a profession of faith and hope that is fake and has never been real. Can you explain that?
"let us hold firmly to the faith we profess." - Hebrews 4:14
"23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful" - Hebrews 10:23
"35 Therefore, do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward." - Hebrews 10:35
Why is it faulty?
The faulty logic is saying the flashlight that shines forever means I will always have that flashlight.
That's totally illogical.
Ultimately, salvation is conditional on whether or not the soil of one's heart has the inherent potential within itself to sustain the word of God in it. The soil itself cannot realize it's own potential for useful growth, if it has any. Not all soil does. It's only the merciful and gracious work of the husbandman working the land that can realize that potential. That's why even though the potential for salvation is an inherent quality of the soil itself that potential can only be realized by the grace and mercy of God.
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I'm not even sure you're reading my posts at this point, and you just want to assert your dominance. While you are succeeding in showing me neither, it's a little insulting that you feel you can argue with me without taking the time to actually reason out what I'm saying to you or what you're saying to me. I'm not sure how to appease you seeing as you haven't actually understood anything I've said. Aren't you supposed to be ignoring me anyway?
This thread is largely an echo chamber, in case you have not realized. There is a group of people with the same view and they will respond very aggressively with name calling if you don't echo their view.
Since we are adults, it is fine, we can get on with our lives no matter what. But if you are in the educational field, this will be a good example of cyber bullying that is a reality for youths nowadays.
By liking one another's posts and not speaking up against such behavior, its like what the theme of 13 reasons why goes, where sharing hateful posts makes one an implicit supporter of the cyberbully, even if you do not add to the posts.
Since we are adults, it is fine, we can get on with our lives no matter what. But if you are in the educational field, this will be a good example of cyber bullying that is a reality for youths nowadays.
By liking one another's posts and not speaking up against such behavior, its like what the theme of 13 reasons why goes, where sharing hateful posts makes one an implicit supporter of the cyberbully, even if you do not add to the posts.
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Oh no, you misunderstand. I don't know that I disagree completely with the central theme of the room, and so far, those who actually engage are thoughtful in their response. If you aren't passionate about biblical error, then you're just "okay" with it, or in biblical terms, "luke–warm" I can't say I'd be as aggressive about it as some things I've seen here, but that believers are passionate about biblical truth is inspiring.
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