Christ is God

[posthuman]

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, by the commandment of God our Savior and the Lord Jesus Christ, our hope
(1 Timothy 1:1)

our Savior Jesus Christ has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel
(2 Timothy 1:10)
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God our Savior
Christ our Savior

one Savior; Christ is God

looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ
(Titus 2:13)
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the Lord Jesus Christ our hope - one Hope: the glorious appearing of Jesus Christ: our great God and Savior

 

[posthuman]

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Εἷς γὰρ θεός, εἷς καὶ μεσίτης θεοῦ καὶ ἀνθρώπων, ἄνθρωπος χριστὸς Ἰησοῦς
(1 Timothy 2:5)
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• Εἷς
  • One
• γὰρ
  • indeed
• θεός
  • God
• εἷς
  • one
• καὶ
  • namely
• μεσίτης
  • Mediator
• θεοῦ
  • God
• καὶ
  • and
• ἀνθρώπων
  • men
• ἄνθρωπος
  • man
• χριστὸς Ἰησοῦς
  • Christ Jesus

Christ is fully God and fully man: THE Mediator and THE Mediation, God appearing in flesh, our Peace

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus and the trinity in the OT! It’s not a new concept

Is 48:
Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.
13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,
They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
[c]Have sent Me.”
17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,
The Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
Who teaches you to profit,
Who leads you by the way you should go.

 

[Dino246]

I would agree a response of the work of Christ working in him the witness of God Thomas believed as he was given the faith to finish the work . My Lord MY God .The witness God did work in him with him

I am not saying Jesus is not the Christ. But defining as a offering of what I think that means .

Some did know Christ after the flesh for a short period. But seeing him did not mean God then became God, having no power to reveal himself beforehand .

Jesus the Christ as the Son of God not seen, is God.

Different uses for the different names. (1) Son of God = power .(2) Son of man = no power

I am saying our invisible God is not a man as us in any way shape or form period . We do not glorify the Son of man as if he was God. God's glory is hidden from this corrupted creation. Again God remains invisible. He has no face made up of the rudiments of this word .To seek His face is to seek his knowledge as it is written. He has no beginning. He has no form to behold. To attribute form to a invisible God in to take his name in vain .It defines the abomination of desolation. Created corruptible things in the unseen place of faith.


For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,( like the son of man) and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Romans 1:21-23

Jesus, a word that means "savior" therefore it does not mean man but a work performed . Christ is not man as us. He is eternal God like no other. Christ is the anointing one. The one Good Master reckoned by the things not seen, the Son of God. The power of God.

He is referred to as the one Good Master refusing to share his power with corrupted flesh and blood. Its not that some did know him after the flesh .But the one time demonstration has been over for two thousand years. .Jesus is first of the brethren Call no man on earth Good Master. Call no man on earth Father , , ,one is our Good Master our father in heaven. We therefore pray that manner .Our father in heaven we worship your name . In that way Jesus refused to be called Good Master. Giving glory to the unseen Holy Place of God's glory .

Jesus is God. Either get your theology straight or I will start reporting you for heresy and you will be banned from this site.

 

[garee]

Jesus is God. Either get your theology straight or I will start reporting you for heresy and you will be banned from this site.

That would make me sad. Sorry if I am offending you.

Amen. . . Jesus is God as the Son of God not seen signified by Melchedik a theophany( no flesh and blood). The Son of God remains without descent, neither having beginning of days or end of eternal Spirt life.

I would think what we should concern with is. . the unseen spiritual power of God or called the "holiness of the Spirit" (the unseen)

The bible does not speak of "holiness of the corrupted flesh" the temporal seen .

Jesus/ Savior as the Son of man the temporal seen was needed for the one time promised demonstration like that of Isiah 53 . This was in order to do what the letter of the law scripture could not do . It was necessary in order to condemn sin in the flesh that the demonstration use real flesh typified as sinful The theophany could not perform the work as Melchezedek .

In order to show the mutual work of the father and Son, flesh and blood was needed. to demonstrate the "holiness of the unseen Spirit". It did not take away from the glory of God, Jesus as the Son of man was the true reflection. . just as the Moon and the Sun .

Although as he informed us In John 6 his flesh did not profit for nothing as the true glory it did serve a purpose as a reflected glory , the true source of faith. The unseen

Romans 8:2-4 King James Version (KJV) For the law of the "Spirit" of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

The spirit takes away the power of the flesh .You could say the two laws. The written that kills and the law of faith. . together as one perfect law. (called "mixing faith" in Hebrew 4) .Together made one perfect law that can quicken our souls giving us simply ones His understanding.( Psalms 19:7)

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The one time demonstration is not made complete by his fleshly birth the seed of mankind or called the seed of David . But again by the unseen seed, the spirit of holiness related with death to the letter of the law. . giving us a supernatural rest from our own works.

 

[Dino246]

That would make me sad. Sorry if I am offending you.

Amen. . . Jesus is God as the Son of God not seen signified by Melchedik a theophany( no flesh and blood). The Son of God remains without descent, neither having beginning of days or end of eternal Spirt life.

I would think what we should concern with is. . the unseen spiritual power of God or called the "holiness of the Spirit" (the unseen)

The bible does not speak of "holiness of the corrupted flesh" the temporal seen .

Jesus/ Savior as the Son of man the temporal seen was needed for the one time promised demonstration like that of Isiah 53 . This was in order to do what the letter of the law scripture could not do . It was necessary in order to condemn sin in the flesh that the demonstration use real flesh typified as sinful The theophany could not perform the work as Melchezedek .

In order to show the mutual work of the father and Son, flesh and blood was needed. to demonstrate the "holiness of the unseen Spirit". It did not take away from the glory of God, Jesus as the Son of man was the true reflection. . just as the Moon and the Sun .

Although as he informed us In John 6 his flesh did not profit for nothing as the true glory it did serve a purpose as a reflected glory , the true source of faith. The unseen

Romans 8:2-4 King James Version (KJV) For the law of the "Spirit" of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

The spirit takes away the power of the flesh .You could say the two laws. The written that kills and the law of faith. . together as one perfect law. (called "mixing faith" in Hebrew 4) .Together made one perfect law that can quicken our souls giving us simply ones His understanding.( Psalms 19:7)

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The one time demonstration is not made complete by his fleshly birth the seed of mankind or called the seed of David . But again by the unseen seed, the spirit of holiness related with death to the letter of the law. . giving us a supernatural rest from our own works.

This is not about me being offended. It is about you continually posting error, for which you have been corrected MANY times. Instead of learning, you keep posting more error. Get your head straight!

 

[Jerzy]

I don’t think anyone really cares for this anymore. You kind of ran this ship aground.

Did I say anything that didn't come from the Word of God?

Nop!

Therefore:

Do you mean to say that God "kind of run this ship aground"?

 

[Jerzy]

Accurate titles but wasn't according to those of the OT, God's name was unpronounceable and basically impersonal ?

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

I meant as it appears in today's translations

 

[Jerzy]

So nobody tried to prove that any of hundreds of the fool-proof texts like I posted some in post 1091 is a lie, human manipulation or proves that Jesus is God.

Nobody seems interested in the Truth.

Instead, people seem convinced that the "Creeds" like the Constatine's Creed are sure things to believe.

But weren't those Creeds created by "the wise and prudent"?

So God's Word doesn't matter anymore, does it?

 

[Aerials1978]

Did I say anything that didn't come from the Word of God?

Nop!

Therefore:

Do you mean to say that God "kind of run this ship aground"?

Boring.

 

[Jerzy]

Boring.

Do you find the Word of God; the Truth, boring?

No wonder, the stories created by the "wise and prudent" are not "boring", are they Aerials?

One wonders what you are going to say at the judgement.

 

[Aerials1978]

Do you find the Word of God; the Truth, boring?

No wonder, the stories created by the "wise and prudent" are not "boring", are they Aerials?

One wonders what you are going to say at the judgement.

I’m going to say “ Thank you Lord for letting me find Jerzy’s posts boring” 😇

 

[posthuman]

I’m going to say “ Thank you Lord for letting me find Jerzy’s posts boring” 😇

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In that same hour He rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said,
“I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and understanding
and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was Your gracious will."​

(Luke 10:21)​

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hidden what things? _______

"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father,
or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.”​

(Luke 10:22) ​

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these things - who He truly is__________

 

[posthuman]

So God's Word doesn't matter anymore, does it?

God was manifest in the flesh
(1 Timothy 3:16)


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[Jerzy]

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God was manifest in the flesh​

(1 Timothy 3:16) ​

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Please consider the biblical context to be certain what exactly God says in 1 Tim 3:16:

Ac 2:22...Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles, wonders and signs which God did by him....
1Tim 1:2 ...Grace , mercy and peace from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
1Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.

 

[Jerzy]

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In that same hour He rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, ​

“I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and understanding ​

and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was Your gracious will."​

(Luke 10:21)[QUOT]​

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Thanks for confirming the verses I keep pointing to.​

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[QUOT]__"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, ​

or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.”​

(Luke 10:22) ​

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See Isa 11:1-3, Jn 12:47-50 just to mention but two.

 

[posthuman]

if ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins.
(John 8:24) ​

 

[watcher2013]

[HR][/HR]~—•—○— CHALLENGE —○—•—~
[HR][/HR]
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Show from scripture that Jesus the Messiah is God.

[HR][/HR]

i'll go first:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.​

(John 1:1-5) ​

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The Christ is that Word, who pitched His tent with us, came to His own, but wasn't known by them, who loved me, and gave Himself! He is the Light and the Resurrection and the Life!


[HR][/HR]

OK, your turn! Go!!

It is clear.
The word WAS God.
Then what...
God manifested in the FLESH.

DO NOT FORGET THIS

Phi 2:6-7 KJV 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

TOOK Upon him the form of a servant and WAS made in the Likeness of men...

 

[bojack]

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See Isa 11:1-3, Jn 12:47-50 just to mention but two.

Just curious Bro, do you believe in an eternal conscious hell ?

 

[Jerzy]

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if ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. ​

(John 8:24) ​

I am what????