What real salvation is.

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What you need to know about your salvation:

The Lord's salvation only fully appears to a person when he or she has completely turned from their evil ways and have lost their life for God so that they might gain their life as Jesus said [Luke 9:24, Matthew 16:25]. What is salvation you ask? The true salvation of Jesus is the established state of a soul who continually walks in the Spirit and has become capable of never sinning again [1 Peter 4:1-2], doing nothing but the will of the Father in every aspect of his or her life.

With our minds seated in heavenly places [Ephesians 2:6], we must all approach the throne of grace [Hebrews 4:16] immediately to obtain mercy and be cleansed from ALL of our unrighteousness [1 John 1:9] so that we may become a new creature [2 Corin. 5:17] with the living mind and Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ [1 Corin. 2:16]. This is what makes a person capable of doing the will of the Father-- God will quicken your Spirit and cause you to walk in a newness of life [Roman's 8:11], always producing love without blame before Him. You will then cease from your own works and enter the sabbath rest of God that Hebrews chapter 4 tells us to make sure that we labor (work very hard) to enter into. What God truly desires is for you to receive the full measure of the mind and Spirit of Jesus with all His riches of peace, love, faith, hope, joy, goodness, and power completely added to your life. Seek and pray for this without doubting and you will receive all of these things so that you may be one of the few people that Jesus spoke about who finds the way that leads to eternal life [Matthew 7:14]. Are you one of the few who will believe in this loving and pure way of life and enter the kingdom of heaven with me? If so, pray this in your utmost faith with me!!

Heavenly Father,
I can see the narrow and difficult way that leads to eternal life with You. Without Your mind and Holy Spirit within me, I will be unable to walk or find my way to eternity with You which is why I ask You now to forever hold me with Your right hand and strengthen my heart so that I may emerge victorious over the sin in my life and be able to knowingly do Your will and be filled with the fullest measure of Your mind, peace, joy, hope, faith, Spirit, and love so that I can produce satisfying fruits of righteousness and forever sit on Your throne with You!!!!!!! In Jesus name I pray, AMEN! 💖💖💖
 

John146

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Because we discuss fake salvation on here.😜
 

John146

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What you need to know about your salvation:

The Lord's salvation only fully appears to a person when he or she has completely turned from their evil ways and have lost their life for God so that they might gain their life as Jesus said [Luke 9:24, Matthew 16:25]. What is salvation you ask? The true salvation of Jesus is the established state of a soul who continually walks in the Spirit and has become capable of never sinning again [1 Peter 4:1-2], doing nothing but the will of the Father in every aspect of his or her life.

With our minds seated in heavenly places [Ephesians 2:6], we must all approach the throne of grace [Hebrews 4:16] immediately to obtain mercy and be cleansed from ALL of our unrighteousness [1 John 1:9] so that we may become a new creature [2 Corin. 5:17] with the living mind and Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ [1 Corin. 2:16]. This is what makes a person capable of doing the will of the Father-- God will quicken your Spirit and cause you to walk in a newness of life [Roman's 8:11], always producing love without blame before Him. You will then cease from your own works and enter the sabbath rest of God that Hebrews chapter 4 tells us to make sure that we labor (work very hard) to enter into. What God truly desires is for you to receive the full measure of the mind and Spirit of Jesus with all His riches of peace, love, faith, hope, joy, goodness, and power completely added to your life. Seek and pray for this without doubting and you will receive all of these things so that you may be one of the few people that Jesus spoke about who finds the way that leads to eternal life [Matthew 7:14]. Are you one of the few who will believe in this loving and pure way of life and enter the kingdom of heaven with me? If so, pray this in your utmost faith with me!!

Heavenly Father,
I can see the narrow and difficult way that leads to eternal life with You. Without Your mind and Holy Spirit within me, I will be unable to walk or find my way to eternity with You which is why I ask You now to forever hold me with Your right hand and strengthen my heart so that I may emerge victorious over the sin in my life and be able to knowingly do Your will and be filled with the fullest measure of Your mind, peace, joy, hope, faith, Spirit, and love so that I can produce satisfying fruits of righteousness and forever sit on Your throne with You!!!!!!! In Jesus name I pray, AMEN! 💖💖💖
None of us have any hope of what you have described. Btw, welcome.
 
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What you need to know about your salvation:

The Lord's salvation only fully appears to a person when he or she has completely turned from their evil ways and have lost their life for God so that they might gain their life as Jesus said [Luke 9:24, Matthew 16:25]. What is salvation you ask? The true salvation of Jesus is the established state of a soul who continually walks in the Spirit and has become capable of never sinning again [1 Peter 4:1-2], doing nothing but the will of the Father in every aspect of his or her life.

With our minds seated in heavenly places [Ephesians 2:6], we must all approach the throne of grace [Hebrews 4:16] immediately to obtain mercy and be cleansed from ALL of our unrighteousness [1 John 1:9] so that we may become a new creature [2 Corin. 5:17] with the living mind and Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ [1 Corin. 2:16]. This is what makes a person capable of doing the will of the Father-- God will quicken your Spirit and cause you to walk in a newness of life [Roman's 8:11], always producing love without blame before Him. You will then cease from your own works and enter the sabbath rest of God that Hebrews chapter 4 tells us to make sure that we labor (work very hard) to enter into. What God truly desires is for you to receive the full measure of the mind and Spirit of Jesus with all His riches of peace, love, faith, hope, joy, goodness, and power completely added to your life. Seek and pray for this without doubting and you will receive all of these things so that you may be one of the few people that Jesus spoke about who finds the way that leads to eternal life [Matthew 7:14]. Are you one of the few who will believe in this loving and pure way of life and enter the kingdom of heaven with me? If so, pray this in your utmost faith with me!!

Heavenly Father,
I can see the narrow and difficult way that leads to eternal life with You. Without Your mind and Holy Spirit within me, I will be unable to walk or find my way to eternity with You which is why I ask You now to forever hold me with Your right hand and strengthen my heart so that I may emerge victorious over the sin in my life and be able to knowingly do Your will and be filled with the fullest measure of Your mind, peace, joy, hope, faith, Spirit, and love so that I can produce satisfying fruits of righteousness and forever sit on Your throne with You!!!!!!! In Jesus name I pray, AMEN! 💖💖💖
 
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I like My KJV , THE others don't sound right to me . GOD bless as HE sees fit
 
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None of us have any hope of what you have described. Btw, welcome.
Thank you for welcoming me. And I'm sorry but why do none of you have any hope for what I have described? With God ALL things are possible [Matthew 19:26], & I can do ALL THINGS through Christ who strengthens me [Phillipians 4:13]. I believe the scripture. It's possible for everybody.
 

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Thank you for welcoming me. And I'm sorry but why do none of you have any hope for what I have described? With God ALL things are possible [Matthew 19:26], & I can do ALL THINGS through Christ who strengthens me [Phillipians 4:13]. I believe the scripture. It's possible for everybody.
To live without sin and obey the Lord 100% of the time? In this body of sinful flesh? Paul didn’t do it.
 
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To live without sin and obey the Lord 100% of the time? In this body of sinful flesh? Paul didn’t do it.
Paul didnt? Paul said it was not longer he that lived but Christ that lived perfectly in Him [Galatians 2:20]. He also said that they who are Christs HAVE CRUCIFIED [past tense] their flesh with its passions and desires [Galatians 5:24]
 

John146

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Paul didnt? Paul said it was not longer he that lived but Christ that lived perfectly in Him [Galatians 2:20]. He also said that they who are Christs HAVE CRUCIFIED [past tense] their flesh with its passions and desires [Galatians 5:24]
Paul admitted his battle with the flesh. Read Romans 7. Also, he disobeyed the Lord by going to Jerusalem.
 
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Paul admitted his battle with the flesh. Read Romans 7. Also, he disobeyed the Lord by going to Jerusalem.
From what I read the spirit of GOD warn HIM not to GO with the prophet. Also GOD told him that they would not hear him ,
 
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Paul admitted his battle with the flesh. Read Romans 7. Also, he disobeyed the Lord by going to Jerusalem.
In Roman's 8:1 if you continue on after Roman's 7 that you are quoting, Paul clearly says that those who are in Christ Jesus do NOT walk after the flesh, but walk after the Spirit.

Also, Peter said it best "Forasmuch then as Christ has suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that has suffered in the flesh has CEASED FROM SIN; that he no longer should live THE REST OF HIS TIME in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God." -1 Peter 4:1-2
 
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What you need to know about your salvation:

The Lord's salvation only fully appears to a person when he or she has completely turned from their evil ways and have lost their life for God so that they might gain their life as Jesus said [Luke 9:24, Matthew 16:25]. What is salvation you ask? The true salvation of Jesus is the established state of a soul who continually walks in the Spirit and has become capable of never sinning again [1 Peter 4:1-2], doing nothing but the will of the Father in every aspect of his or her life.

With our minds seated in heavenly places [Ephesians 2:6], we must all approach the throne of grace [Hebrews 4:16] immediately to obtain mercy and be cleansed from ALL of our unrighteousness [1 John 1:9] so that we may become a new creature [2 Corin. 5:17] with the living mind and Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ [1 Corin. 2:16]. This is what makes a person capable of doing the will of the Father-- God will quicken your Spirit and cause you to walk in a newness of life [Roman's 8:11], always producing love without blame before Him. You will then cease from your own works and enter the sabbath rest of God that Hebrews chapter 4 tells us to make sure that we labor (work very hard) to enter into. What God truly desires is for you to receive the full measure of the mind and Spirit of Jesus with all His riches of peace, love, faith, hope, joy, goodness, and power completely added to your life. Seek and pray for this without doubting and you will receive all of these things so that you may be one of the few people that Jesus spoke about who finds the way that leads to eternal life [Matthew 7:14]. Are you one of the few who will believe in this loving and pure way of life and enter the kingdom of heaven with me? If so, pray this in your utmost faith with me!!

Heavenly Father,
I can see the narrow and difficult way that leads to eternal life with You. Without Your mind and Holy Spirit within me, I will be unable to walk or find my way to eternity with You which is why I ask You now to forever hold me with Your right hand and strengthen my heart so that I may emerge victorious over the sin in my life and be able to knowingly do Your will and be filled with the fullest measure of Your mind, peace, joy, hope, faith, Spirit, and love so that I can produce satisfying fruits of righteousness and forever sit on Your throne with You!!!!!!! In Jesus name I pray, AMEN! 💖💖💖

annnnnd

we're off

waaaaaaaay off
 
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annnnnd

we're off

waaaaaaaay off
I like most of what you said . But it not said like the KJV says it ,And I don't trust the other BIBLE. Because they change the wording and sometimes the whole meaning.
 

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well someone eventually needs to post it in this thread so i guess i will:


If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1 John 1:8)

((kjv, for Bud's sake :)))
 
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Care to explain what you mean? I quoted 10 scripture references..
do you want to make Jesus a liar?

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.
I John 1

this is not talking about sin before accepting Christ only

this letter is written to Christians

you are simply another person who sings the wrong song about sin and salvation

apparently and according to scripture, you are calling Jesus a liar if you say you do not sin and preaching a false gospel

you can quote the entire Bible but that does not make you correct . there are many false prophets in this world and always have been

if you preach sinlessness, then you preach a false word
 
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I like most of what you said . But it not said like the KJV says it ,And I don't trust the other BIBLE. Because they change the wording and sometimes the whole meaning.

I have no idea what you are talking about

sorry
 
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well someone eventually needs to post it in this thread so i guess i will:


If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1 John 1:8)
((kjv, for Bud's sake :)))
Yes I am in agreeance with 1 John 1:8, BEFORE we are cleansed if ALL unrighteousness by Jesus per 1 John 1:9, if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:10 further proves what I am saying to be true.

"If we say that we HAVE NOT SINNED, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us."

^^That's John explaining what he means.
 

posthuman

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hello @Quickened777 welcome to Christian chat ((CC))!

you'll find many of us fairly blunt here in the bible discussion forum ((BDF)) -- please don't take offense; naturally the people who frequent this place are passionate about their belief, and we're not necessarily all that good at gentleness or necessarily wise. i'm glad you joined us and hope you can be quick to forgive :)

i'm going to make a comment just to encourage us to carefully think, not to accuse you:


Heavenly Father,
I can see the narrow and difficult way that leads to eternal life with You. Without Your mind and Holy Spirit within me, I will be unable to walk or find my way to eternity with You which is why I ask You now to forever hold me with Your right hand and strengthen my heart so that I may emerge victorious over the sin in my life and be able to knowingly do Your will and be filled with the fullest measure of Your mind, peace, joy, hope, faith, Spirit, and love so that I can produce satisfying fruits of righteousness and forever sit on Your throne with You!!!!!!! In Jesus name I pray, AMEN! 💖💖💖
Jesus said when we pray we should go into an inner room and do so in secret.
so, are you one of the people who you talk about in the opening post ((OP)) or not?
putting this in your comment could be construed as sin.

__________________________________:unsure:
 
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well someone eventually needs to post it in this thread so i guess i will:


If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1 John 1:8)
((kjv, for Bud's sake :)))
Thanks But I think THE KJV is good for all . Even if they say they don't it