Not By Works
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Thank you for rephrasing. I would agree with your statement save for the last part. The found sheep are never lost, can never be lost. If they can be, that would be the responsibility of their Shepherd. Whereas the Shepherd that is Christ has told us,He will lose none that the Father, Jesus was the Father, has given Him.
"Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish."
The Book of Matthew chapter 18.
"Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish."
The Book of Matthew chapter 18.
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We don't control the mods.
My guess if a mod removed some it would be for good reason.
No need to make a big deal about it.😁
(half of my negative emotes were because now banned members literally just gave all red x's to a discussion that happened earlier because they were holding a grudge, i don't care if they stay or go.... even if every point i made was correct i actually look back and see i was being impatient and my delivery was more defensive against accusations than an attempt to help this person who was so far from truth)
There is actually someone who usually throws "heretic" in their name and keeps coming back to never post and show their grudge through negative emotes until they are banned. I think of a mod removed some of those they should be thanked for spending their precious time.
My guess if a mod removed some it would be for good reason.
No need to make a big deal about it.😁
(half of my negative emotes were because now banned members literally just gave all red x's to a discussion that happened earlier because they were holding a grudge, i don't care if they stay or go.... even if every point i made was correct i actually look back and see i was being impatient and my delivery was more defensive against accusations than an attempt to help this person who was so far from truth)
There is actually someone who usually throws "heretic" in their name and keeps coming back to never post and show their grudge through negative emotes until they are banned. I think of a mod removed some of those they should be thanked for spending their precious time.
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Then YOU DO NOT THINK YOU SIN ANY MORE ? ? ?
You have Misinterpreted that VERSE, BIG TIME.
Hebrews 12:5-8 (NRSV)
5 And you have forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as children— "My child, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, or lose heart when you are punished by him;
6 for the Lord disciplines those whom he loves, and chastises every child whom he accepts."
7 Endure trials for the sake of discipline. God is treating you as children; for what child is there whom a parent does not discipline?
8 If you do not have that discipline in which all children share, then you are illegitimate and not his children.
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Every aspect of those words allude his cognative ability to understand.....along with...
saved
justified
uttermost
kept
lose nothing
nothing shall separate us
sealed unto
in
I will
never leave
never forsake
if we believe not
to the one that does not work but believes
Not to mention contextual honesty, Greek verb tense, scriptural integrity and on and on and on!
saved
justified
uttermost
kept
lose nothing
nothing shall separate us
sealed unto
in
I will
never leave
never forsake
if we believe not
to the one that does not work but believes
Not to mention contextual honesty, Greek verb tense, scriptural integrity and on and on and on!
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And I would also argue this view based on the following scripture written to saved children of God with the apostle including himself by the use OF WE......
If WE BELIEVE NOT, he abides faithful because he CANNOT DENY HIMSELF.
Jesus MAINTAINS OUR SALVATION and HE FINISHES AND COMPLETES THE work of faith in US.
To say WE MUST anything to maintain salvation takes glory away from Christ and to say WE can lose faith and lose salvation absolutely calls Jesus and Paul liars by saying that Jesus does not FINISH AND COMPLETE the work of faith in a man he began it in.......
If WE BELIEVE NOT, he abides faithful because he CANNOT DENY HIMSELF.
Jesus MAINTAINS OUR SALVATION and HE FINISHES AND COMPLETES THE work of faith in US.
To say WE MUST anything to maintain salvation takes glory away from Christ and to say WE can lose faith and lose salvation absolutely calls Jesus and Paul liars by saying that Jesus does not FINISH AND COMPLETE the work of faith in a man he began it in.......
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I guess you think your innocent if this
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