Not By Works
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I disagree.....One gospel, if embellished it voids the gospel....if they believe they can lose it, they believe they must help maintain it in some form or fashion....that is a false gospel with no power to save....exactly why the number is PLENTEOUS that comes before the throne claiming Jesus as LORD (BELIEF) and expecting to enter based upon what they have DONE (SELF EARNED OR MAINTAINED) Jesus never KNEW THEM they were NEVER SAVED....the three clowns currently posting in this thread peddle this type of false dogma!
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Yeah, we know that. That's why they are in hell today.
And these Israelites in hell today, they most definitely had the gifts and calling revoked. The gifts and calling of God have not been revoked for later generations of Israelites who will one day walk in them again. But somehow this is supposed to mean that no one individual believer ever, anywhere, can have a gift of God revoked. That's not even what the passage is about (Romans 11).
And these Israelites in hell today, they most definitely had the gifts and calling revoked. The gifts and calling of God have not been revoked for later generations of Israelites who will one day walk in them again. But somehow this is supposed to mean that no one individual believer ever, anywhere, can have a gift of God revoked. That's not even what the passage is about (Romans 11).
If you are still characterized by your old life, not the new life of a saved person living for God, you may well not have the new life you claim to have.
But if you still don't get it, then you answer the question:
16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. - Matthew 7:16-20
You tell us, how much work and fruit is enough?
But if you still don't get it, then you answer the question:
16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. - Matthew 7:16-20
You tell us, how much work and fruit is enough?