Not By Works

[Discern]

All I can see is this person loves lies and hates truth and tries to stir the body of Christ using false accusations and admitted hidden agendas.

Btw, even if I did accuse Dcon of not knowing that some propose a certain argument, (which was not the point of the post in question)that would merely mean he is unaware of something that is happening. There is no guilt in being unaware of what someone else is doing

An accusation refers to saying someone did something wrong. There is no wrong in being unaware of what someone else might be doing

So even if I implied he was unaware, which I did not intend, it still would not be an accusation

So. To claim I falsely accused Dcon is a false claim, as I did not accuse him of wrongdoing in that post.

Secondly, putting on a thinking cap has nothing to do with factors we are unaware of. It has to do with contemplating things we do know, and putting the pieces together

So your accusation of me somehow falsely accusing people are attempts to use smoke and mirrors to divert away from what is actually being said

That is an honest and fair representation of your “argument”

 

[Oncefallen]

@Discern @OneOfHis each of you has the right to report THE post where the other wronged you, you DO NOT have the right to tear up this thread arguing over something as stupid as a comma or period that may or may not have been changed. I have entirely better things to do than to dig back (God only knows how far) trying to find the post that started this whole mess.

 

[EleventhHour]

you are definately macaroni no way you are not mr . macaroni seriously or am i going crazy bro

I thought the same after a week or two myself.
Same underlying doctrine and agenda.

 

[Discern]

You just said you weren't talking about the binky and in my original post of where you falsely accused dcon I quoted the whole thing. v




That post contains everyone word with nothing shortened in quote form. (anyone can go back and look)


I shortened it in a later post because you asked where you made false accusations.


Nothing was taken out of context and dcon saw what you accused him of not seeing without any cap you describe long before you were here, and has discussed it before you were here.



I at no point did any of what you claimed I did including taking things out of context.


You just desperately want to be right.

Thanks for admitting at least one of your errors.

If you interpret one sentence without considering sentences which may come before and may come after, that is removing it from context.

An accusation is a statement that someone did something wrong or illegal. Even if I meant he was unaware of license to sin argument, that would be merely stating that he is unaware of a circumstance. There is nothing wrong or. Illegal about that, so it cannot be a false accusation, because no accusation was made in that statement. Accusations are related to charges of wrongdoing

You need to put on your thinking cap

 

[OneOfHis]

@Discern @OneOfHis each of you has the right to report THE post where the other wronged you, you DO NOT have the right to tear up this thread arguing over something as stupid as a comma or period that may or may not have been changed. I have entirely better things to do than to dig back (God only knows how far) trying to find the post that started this whole mess.

Sorry to bug ya, he already said he was wrong and I didn't do what he said... I just really felt upset he kept saying I was editing posts to mis represent someone.

You're right about everything you said here and I know it was a bit childish to call a mod... or take part in a 3-4 page dispute about something i know i didnt do

 

[Discern]

@Discern @OneOfHis each of you has the right to report THE post where the other wronged you, you DO NOT have the right to tear up this thread arguing over something as stupid as a comma or period that may or may not have been changed. I have entirely better things to do than to dig back (God only knows how far) trying to find the post that started this whole mess.

Understood.

He accused me of false accusations and being dishonest numerous times. That is why I reply.

But I will leave now.

 

[Discern]

Sorry to bug ya, he already said he was wrong and I didn't do what he said... I just really felt upset he kept saying I was editing posts to mis represent someone.

You're right about everything you said here and I know it was a bit childish to call a mod... or take part in a 3-4 page dispute about something i know i didnt do

I never said you were editing posts. I said you misquoted me. When I said you dropped a comma and added a period, wgmhich I was wrong about, I meant that you did so in your quoting me, not in your repost

But all this is a waste of time anyways. Saying someone is unaware of something, which is not what I meant would not be an accusation anyways, seeing I did not accuse Dcon of wrongdoing either way.

 

[OneOfHis]

I never said you were editing posts. I said you misquoted me. When I said you dropped a comma and added a period, wgmhich I was wrong about, I meant that you did so in your quoting me, not in your repost

But all this is a waste of time anyways. Saying someone is unaware of something, which is not what I meant would not be an accusation anyways, seeing I did not accuse Dcon of wrongdoing either way.

I disagree.

We can agree to disagree about what was said or implied.

I have been lied about many times on here... one even called me a hacker when I was on nonamemcgee.

They called me a worker of satan and also said I hated Jesus and called me a new ager for saying "God doesnt make people gay"

then claimed I attacked posts by blueladybug and magenta who I agreed with and have pmed many times as friends and family in Christ....

oncefallen had all the quotes in a joined pm and told me to "block her"

I knew you wouldn't be punished but I didn't expect you to admit you were wrong and hoped for some back up on that after you questioned my intentions.


Lets stop because it just becomes a broken record.

 

[Lightskin]

For God so loved the world He gave his own Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Okay worker bees, argue with this one. 🍿

 

[Discern]

I disagree.

We can agree to disagree about what was said or implied.

I have been lied about many times on here... one even called me a hacker when I was on nonamemcgee.

They called me a worker of satan and also said I hated Jesus and called me a new ager for saying "God doesnt make people gay"

then claimed I attacked posts by blueladybug and magenta who I agreed with and have pmed many times as friends and family in Christ....

oncefallen had all the quotes in a joined pm and told me to "block her"

I knew you wouldn't be punished but I didn't expect you to admit you were wrong and hoped for some back up on that after you questioned my intentions.


Lets stop because it just becomes a broken record.

You said I accused Dcon of not being aware of something that others are doing. If I did intend to say that, which the rest of my post indicated it wasn’t, That is not an accusation. An accusation involves a charge of guilt or wrongdoing

No wrongdoing in being unaware of something. So not an accusation.

Accusation involves something done that is wrong. Being unaware of what someone said is not a moral wrong.

And you did ignore the context of what I said. And you were wrong when you said I accused you of editing my post, and you were wrong when you said I told you that I was talking about want a binkie

I apologized for my error. You made numerous errors and don’t care. And you want me punished?

Now I will stop. If you don’t see where you were wrong yet, I’m wasting my time. And I am wasting it here

 

[Discern]

I disagree.

We can agree to disagree about what was said or implied.

I have been lied about many times on here... one even called me a hacker when I was on nonamemcgee.

They called me a worker of satan and also said I hated Jesus and called me a new ager for saying "God doesnt make people gay"

then claimed I attacked posts by blueladybug and magenta who I agreed with and have pmed many times as friends and family in Christ....

oncefallen had all the quotes in a joined pm and told me to "block her"

I knew you wouldn't be punished but I didn't expect you to admit you were wrong and hoped for some back up on that after you questioned my intentions.


Lets stop because it just becomes a broken record.

I need to add one last thing.

I made not one accusation of you editing posts. I said you misquoted me. If you want to impute guilt to a thing I am not guilty of, have at it

Search for “edit post”. Said by you, not by me except where I denied editing posts after the fact

So enjoy your kangaroo court.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I know what grade is I was saved by the grace of God. His grace, not mine, I am still a work in progress. I just feel you are digging your own grave, and that is the only reason I stay here.

If you really believed this you would not knock grace by claiming it must be earned (can be lost)

 

[Discern]

@Discern @OneOfHis each of you has the right to report THE post where the other wronged you, you DO NOT have the right to tear up this thread arguing over something as stupid as a comma or period that may or may not have been changed. I have entirely better things to do than to dig back (God only knows how far) trying to find the post that started this whole mess.

There is no post where I said he is editing my posts. Sorry to disrupt the thread

 

[OneOfHis]

Why don’t you show everyone where I said you were editting my posts

Then you can say I accused you of it.

YOU MISQUOTED ME, because you put a partial quote and put a period where the comma was and left out the rest of the sentence. Would you say that is dishonest?

Why do you deliberately misquote people?

YOU put a period where the comma was.

Taking a quote out of context is a pretext. SO your reply was a pretext. Well done. Textbook indication of hidden agenda

Who's got a hidden agenda? You.

Yep, you deliberately misquoting people is a laugh all right. Who puts a period where the comma was and leaves out the rest of the sentence? You.

 

[Discern]

Yes. In your QUOTING me, I thought you changed it. Did you ever repost the Thinking hat post. I looked. I don’t see where it was reposted by you. You quoted it, but did not repost it, I believe. If I am wrong let me know

And how do you partial quote a five word sentence and remove a period where one did not exist. It had a question mark

That excludes so you want a binkie

So you misunderstood is all. Oncefallen did not take my words to mean that I claimed you edited my posts. So we can drop it now. Have a pleasant day

 

[EleventhHour]

Follow me as I follow Christ. 1. Cor 11:1 Don’t trouble me with your philosophical paradigm. Talk Bible. And my focus is on what the Bible says about self deception. I asked if a person is living in deliberate sin, is it possible they were never saved, and people flew into a tizzy. Interesting.

@dcontroversal... philosophical paradigm ..that is comical... are you sure you are reading his posts?

 

[gb9]

You said I accused Dcon of not being aware of something that others are doing. If I did intend to say that, which the rest of my post indicated it wasn’t, That is not an accusation. An accusation involves a charge of guilt or wrongdoing

No wrongdoing in being unaware of something. So not an accusation.

Accusation involves something done that is wrong. Being unaware of what someone said is not a moral wrong.

And you did ignore the context of what I said. And you were wrong when you said I accused you of editing my post, and you were wrong when you said I told you that I was talking about want a binkie

I apologized for my error. You made numerous errors and don’t care. And you want me punished?

Now I will stop. If you don’t see where you were wrong yet, I’m wasting my time. And I am wasting it here

you have a weird way of stopping...

 

[Discern]

you have a weird way of stopping...

he posted posts as evidence that were not proving his claims. Now that that’s out of the way...We can stop

 

[EleventhHour]

Follow me as I follow Christ. 1. Cor 11:1 Don’t trouble me with your philosophical paradigm. Talk Bible. And my focus is on what the Bible says about self deception. I asked if a person is living in deliberate sin, is it possible they were never saved, and people flew into a tizzy. Interesting.

Yes I am still in a tizzy.....Thanks a lot

 

[Discern]

@dcontroversal... philosophical paradigm ..that is comical... are you sure you are reading his posts?

He assumed that saying one is teaching the same things as the apostles is comparing yourself to and elevating oneself to them

I said I am saying what the apostles said. He said I am comparing myself to them. Not the same thing. Bad logic