Not By Works

[PS]

There is one problem

while your motive is ok, your way to go about it is flawed

they love to use senerio us or hypotheticals like you do

what if...

they use the same sins you used, immorality, sexual sin, etc.

their hypotheticals are flawed. Because it does not account for the fact that ever sin in Gods eyes has the penalty of death, and in reality, they are no better than the sinners they are judging, the fact they have not come to this conclusion just proves they have not yet fully repented, they still think they have some good in them, or they would never judge certain people (onlyGod can judge)

in what you did, you supported them, and basically gave them more ammunition. Because you made the same mistake they did. Using a hypothetical that does not support your cause. .

It would be nice if you would admit to the possibility of falling from grace, about which we are sternly warned in the Bible.

 

[OneOfHis]

Yep, you deliberately misquoting people is a laugh all right. Who puts a period where the comma was and leaves out the rest of the sentence? You.

Psst, if you click the arrow at the top of the quote it takes you to the original post....

I quoted your false accusation about dcon and now your blame shifting because he has discussed what you said he would need a thinking cap to see before your joined the forums.

 

[Discern]

And what is the point of telling him about your uncertainty?

I actually disagree I feel quite certain of many on here who are saved based on their testimony, doctrine and a spiritual connection.

I don't know Eternally Grateful well enough to ascertain his spiritual status. But I do believe he is saved.

And I also do not believe what he described is living in adultery.

 

[Discern]

Psst, if you click the arrow at the top of the quote it takes you to the original post....

I quoted your false accusation about dcon and now your blame shifting because he has discussed what you said he would need a thinking cap to see before your joined the forums.

Gibba gibba gabba gabba blah blah blah. What you say makes no sense.

You left out the RELEVANT part of the sentence by removing it and putting a period in place of the comma. That is partial quoting, taking out of context, and a pretext. Got it?

 

[Discern]

Psst, if you click the arrow at the top of the quote it takes you to the original post....

I quoted your false accusation about dcon and now your blame shifting because he has discussed what you said he would need a thinking cap to see before your joined the forums.

Do you want to go on and on about your pretext? Stop obsessing.

 

[OneOfHis]

YOU put a period where the comma was.

Taking a quote out of context is a pretext. SO your reply was a pretext. Well done. Textbook indication of hidden agenda

Who's got a hidden agenda? You.

What is my hidden agenda? I must have hidden it from myself because I have not seen it.


If you suggest it was to imply the quote had no additional words, that is false. I will say right now I did indeed single out a false accusation you made against dcon but that was not hidden.

I did it in the open opposed to you trying to stir defensive responses to a silly imaginary story you had.


I have never seen you in a fruitful discussion and you go from false accusation to false accusation to baiting and little digs.


I am brutally honest about what I see from you in hopes for an honest explination, which if I recieved I would quickly apologize. (as I have here many times)

I love honesty and hate lies.

 

[Discern]

No I never claimed that was all you said, if you want me to post the whole thing everything I said applies to specifically what i quoted but it doesnt effect any point i made.🤔

Gibba Gibba, gabba gabba, blah, blah, blah. A text taken out of context is a pretext. Period

 

[Discern]

What is my hidden agenda? I must have hidden it from myself because I have not seen it.


If you suggest it was to imply the quote had no additional words, that is false. I will say right now I did indeed single out a false accusation you made against dcon but that was not hidden.

I did it in the open opposed to you trying to stir defensive responses to a silly imaginary story you had.


I have never seen you in a fruitful discussion and you go from false accusation to false accusation to baiting and little digs.


I am brutally honest about what I see from you in hopes for an honest explination, which if I recieved I would quickly apologize. (as I have here many times)

I love honesty and hate lies.

You ommitted the relevant part and put a period where there was a comma. The relevant part of what I said was the second part of the sentence, which you chose to omit in order to create a pretext. Read my quote again

Better yet, why don't you quote the whole sentence so people can see what I said?

 

[OneOfHis]

You ommitted the relevant part and put a period where there was a comma. The relevant part of what I said was the second part of the sentence, which you chose to omit in order to create a pretext. Read my quote again

What are you even talking about?

I'm looking for it and only see honesty from me, and a crazy spamming list of accusatings and throwing of hissy fits from you...

 

[Discern]

What is my hidden agenda? I must have hidden it from myself because I have not seen it.


If you suggest it was to imply the quote had no additional words, that is false. I will say right now I did indeed single out a false accusation you made against dcon but that was not hidden.

I did it in the open opposed to you trying to stir defensive responses to a silly imaginary story you had.


I have never seen you in a fruitful discussion and you go from false accusation to false accusation to baiting and little digs.


I am brutally honest about what I see from you in hopes for an honest explination, which if I recieved I would quickly apologize. (as I have here many times)

I love honesty and hate lies.

Quote the entire sentence and you will see the relevant part of the sentence. If you love honesty, you will quote the entire sentence.

 

[Discern]

What are you even talking about?

I'm looking for it and only see honesty from me, and a crazy spamming list of accusatings and throwing of hissy fits from you...

Quote the entire sentence and you will see the relevant part of the sentence. If you love honesty, you will quote the entire sentence.

Will you do it?

 

[OneOfHis]

Quote the entire sentence and you will see the relevant part of the sentence. If you love honesty, you will quote the entire sentence.

What sentence ?


I was under the assumption youre accusing me falsely because i only quoted your accusation of dcon and not what followed in that post...

are you speaking of another post?


if youre speaking the when you tried to bait me with "want a binkie"

you edited that post


you originally just posted that sentence and mods can see that...


i quoted the original post and not the edited one... before you edited it


if youre crying about that bit... that is another act of dishonesty because you know it was an edited post where you added the period

 

[EleventhHour]

If you had


If you had put on your thinking hat, you would have realized that some opponents of NOSAS here have accused OSAS of using grace as a license to sin. One possible answer to that is if a person is using grace as a license to sin, it is possible they were never saved. Nothing controversial. The alternative would be that everyone who uses grace as a license to sin is definitely saved, and I know you wouldn't say that. Only a madman would say that.

Sometimes your arguments are self defeating. As evidenced by your objection to me saying "if one sins licentiously, it is possible, they were never saved." Simple and self evident, to most anyways.

How can a non saved person use Grace as a license to sin......makes no sense.

For that matter a saved person cannot use Grace as a license to sin either ....do you not understand that every single sin has already been atoned for at the cross.

 

[Discern]

What sentence ?


I was under the assumption youre accusing me falsely because i only quoted your accusation of dcon and not what followed in that post...

are you speaking of another post?


if youre speaking the when you tried to bait me with "want a binkie"

you edited that post


you originally just posted that sentence and mods can see that...


i quoted the original post and not the edited one... before you edited it


if youre crying about that bit... that is another act of dishonesty because you know it was an edited post where you added the period

the whole sentence you partially quoted. Or you can stop obsessing. Your choice

 

[Discern]

How can a non saved person use Grace as a license to sin......makes no sense.

For that matter a saved person cannot use Grace as a license to sin either ....do you not understand that every single sin has already been atoned for at the cross.

Yes, but there is a serious disconnect in your thinking here. "grace as a license to sin" is an attitude. And an unsaved person can have a view of grace that he perverts. He is using the concept of grace as a license to sin. And if anyone ever thinks, I'll sin now and ask God for forgiveness later, that is grace as a license. And people do that.

If you want to call it indulgences, fine.

 

[OneOfHis]

the whole sentence you partially quoted. Or you can stop obsessing. Your choice

I have two times I quoted you in my mind.

1 where you lied about dcon or if not lied just said an untruth (false accusation by mistake)


That I partially quoted because you specifically asked where were the false accusations I brought up, I then showed only the most recent one by itself so you could see it. Not for anyone else.


The next sentence I quoted in its entirety before you edited it. (you added the period)
(where you baited me by asking if I want a binki)



If you are speaking of the second option, you ... are lower than I thought.


You would accuse a child of God of having a hidden agenda for quoting your original post before you edited it, then claiming he edited it?

 

[OneOfHis]

the whole sentence you partially quoted. Or you can stop obsessing. Your choice

Did you mean your edited sentence I quoted in it's entirety before YOU edited it?


Where you asked if I want a binki?

Because if that's what youre speaking of you are a sad sad person.

It would prove beyond a doubt you are willfully lying about others....

 

[Discern]

I have two times I quoted you in my mind.

1 where you lied about dcon or if not lied just said an untruth (false accusation by mistake)


That I partially quoted because you specifically asked where were the false accusations I brought up, I then showed only the most recent one by itself so you could see it. Not for anyone else.


The next sentence I quoted in its entirety before you edited it. (you added the period)
(where you baited me by asking if I want a binki)



If you are speaking of the second option, you ... are lower than I thought.


You would accuse a child of God of having a hidden agenda for quoting your original post before you edited it, then claiming he edited it?

I did not edit the first sentence. You're not doing very well here buddy.

 

[Discern]

Did you mean your edited sentence I quoted in it's entirety before YOU edited it?


Where you asked if I want a binki?

Because if that's what youre speaking of you are a sad sad person.

It would prove beyond a doubt you are willfully lying about others....

Prove I edited the first sentence.

I only have five minutes to edit. You brought up the supposed false accusation long past that.

You are showing a VERY bad look.

 

[EleventhHour]

Did you mean your edited sentence I quoted in it's entirety before YOU edited it?


Where you asked if I want a binki?

Because if that's what youre speaking of you are a sad sad person.

It would prove beyond a doubt you are willfully lying about others....

I am a little lost...which post is the post that he states you allegedly took out of context?