Not hardly pal.....irrevocable means exactly that.....you guys absolutely call God a liar everytime you post crap like the above!
Not By Works
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He peddles the loss of salvation like the rest of the salvation losers.....and in so doing equates God to a liar....!
Can you believe these clowns.....their insolence and equating God to being a liar will cost them....
GOD IS ALL KNOWING, HE GAVE SALAVATION to those who HE KNEW would not fall away, before time began.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.
Revelation 17:8 (NKJV)
8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
You do not understand how faith in God leads to our obedience!!
Goodness gracious me. How peculiar.
I understand fine how you cannot grasp the truth that faith is what God is looking for genius...and Abraham was justified by FAITH...carry on with your conflated false gospel pal....most already know you are off mark by a mile!
Your contribution to salvation is your believing.
Not your works, your believing.
That's right.
That's why we are exhorted to keep believing and trusting in such a great High Priest.
"14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess." - Hebrews 4:14
Since Christ's ministry is so much better (compared to the ministry of the Levites), don't give up on it. Keep believing in it. If your faith in Christ ends, his intercessory ministry for you will end to. Don't throw away your confidence in such a great hope.
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Abraham did not earn his salvation by works. Niether has any other person whoever walked the earth.
james and Judes condemnation was against people who claimed to have faith, but still lived like the world. Showed no change in life. Claimed they followed Christ, but in reality followed their own selfish ways they may “believe” Jesus lived and died, but they have no faith in him at all
true faith makes us new creatures. They will be som type of change, many things we used to do, we will no longer do. Because it is against our new nature, that’s why true faith works
people want these works to be part of their means to maintaining their salvation. They are trying to earn the salvation that was pain on the cross. And mock the cross of Christ.
sorry, to say works are required is to mock paul, mock Christ, and to mock the gospel of salvation,
works are not required. They are a byproduct of faith.
Ie, if I CLAIM to have faith and works are a byproduct of faith, yet I do not have any works, in essence, I had no faith
since salvation is through faith, if I never had faith I never had salvation,
I may be a dog who tries to act like a new creature, but I will always return to my vomit. Why? That’s what I am.
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eternally-gratefull
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If people would stop worrying about what everyone else is doing, and start worrying about their own situation, they would wake up and see true grace because they would finally see their own sin, instead of hiding behind the fact they are not as bad as these others so they must be ok
thats a lie fabricated by satan himself
You reject the plain scriptures. You assert that a person can stop believing in Christ but still obtain salvation. Despite the volume of scriptures warning about this.
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eternally-gratefull
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Only if he is not a righteous person.
a gift is freely given and asks nothing in return,if the giver takes the gift back, it was no gift.it was a down payment.
our salvation is by grace.not by works, God did not give us a down payment, he gave us the real thing.
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Then God can not be trusted. And his “love” he claims to have is no love at all, and in reality God demands we love unconditionally when he himself does not follow through doing the same.
There is a whole thread for this one:
https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/apostasy-101.189485/
Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [c]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Made it a big font for you.