Rejecting Homosexuality in all its Expressions Without Hurting or Judging Others is Vital to Being a Christian in Good Standing

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oyster67

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God made this specific group of people to do ungoldly things because they had rejected the truth of God and God
I believe that ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. There, but by the Grace of God, go I. We are all born with the sin nature pre-installed. I am aware that God has given some over to reprobate minds, but I am also aware that we are ALL born with a rebellious sin nature.
 

Lightskin

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For a Christian man of God, such as myself, it means standing next to a lady of faith at Church, ready to go where "angels fear to tread."
Good standing with her, for one.
I respect what you share, but take heed to be in good standing with God first, foremost and forever by loving Him and our neighbors in the Name of Jesus.
 

HeraldtheNews

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If anyone quotes Romans on the subject and does not read it all they are misinformed and misinforming for God made this specific group of people to do ungoldly things because they had rejected the truth of God and God, Himself. It is for that cause that specific group of people was turned over to reprobate (unsaveable) minds.
Please who where Juseus condemns any sin other than the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. You will not find it.

Please forgive others, especially when they are no threat to you or to me. God bless you always all...j
All sins are covered by the Covenant. This includes all expressions of unblessed intimacy. And all mortal sin, including being overpowered by spiritual or earthly powers. . No one is beyond redemption. Was Christ condemned on the cross when He experienced our condemnation? John said, "if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our hearts and knows all things.".

This means that our own beings do not have the capacity or authority alone to either justify or condemn ourselves. Neither do fallen deceiving demons have that authority, except to attempt to condemn those experiencing either an illusion of inner darkness, or an actual experience of passing through a dark mental emotional spiritual valley.

Lies can not condemn.
Truth is the sunrise.
Because Jesus defeated all the powers of evil.
This is truth,
made real through life.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
 

HeraldtheNews

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I respect what you share, but take heed to be in good standing with God first, foremost and forever by loving Him and our neighbors in the Name of Jesus.
The Bible does not limit God to male patriarchy, as Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at the well, "God is Spirit...". to be worshipped in "Spirit and Truth."
 

JaumeJ

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We shall rule with Jesus, Yeshua, as it is written, however in this age beware of assuming this privilage ahead of the time for it...…...after time that is.
 
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I'll try and find the right Bible verses, but just for the record, I confirm my allegiance to Christ as a Christian man of God, who is and always has been, and always will be, attracted to only women. I further agree with the statement of the United Methodist Church, even though my home church is the Orthodox Church, as a born-again Christian, that homosexuality is incompatible with Christianity. I have never been attracted to males and rejoice in being homophobic, and just because I lack resources, or even coffee money to go out on a date to find a girlfriend, does not mean I am not looking for her.

And just because I turned down a ladies offer to go to her room recently to play cards, does not count because even though I needed the money, I'm a devoted Christian, and want to build a relationship with a lady, over 45-ish, based on a loving attraction that could lead to marriage.

It's vital to obey the Lord in healthy relationships, without judging or hurting others. And to honor social boundaries (social distance/invitation) according to the Bible, socially acceptable norms (God given sacred social/geographic/spiritual parameters) parameters = not being in the presence of near the points of contact established by the social circles of others, or trespassing through media, phone texting, or other means of visible signs of being there. Except the occasional riding up on a horse at someone's wedding as a last ditch Hollywood stunt to give a lady an open window, which usually doesn't work, and isn't always safe, especially if the dude is rich and has lots of security guards.
God is against homosexuality, and calls it an abomination, and did not create the natural realm to operate that way, and does not see it as love but lust which He said they burned in their lust for the same sex, and concerning men God did not make that part of the body for that purpose.

Homosexuality not only goes against the spiritual realm but goes against the natural realm of God's operation in the physical realm.

A person that has God working in their life will see that homosexuality is wrong and disgusting, and as more people are becoming atheist and going against the truth the more that people will become homosexual for since they do not like to retain God in their knowledge He gave them over to a reprobate mind which means God is not working in their life and they only go by the ways of the flesh, which in the flesh dwells no good thing, and the Spirit and flesh are contrary to each other.

But the new age movement is the future for this world and will pave the way to a kingdom where the world will rebel against God following the New Age Christ and persecuting all people that oppose them.

The Bible says they will forbid to marry which they want population reduction for the new age movement is of the occult, so they care about the earth for it is all they have, and believe people are still evolving to be spiritual this time provided by the New Age Christ, and do not acknowledge a personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process that is their greatness and spirituality.

And since the new age movement is the future and the agenda and conspiracy for they are trying to establish it in the world for they believe in evolution and interpret the Bible and all religions according to evolution then they will push for homosexuality in society.

And make them believe they are born gay, and pointing out men in the media as dogs not caring about the welfare of women, and women as money hungry, and controlling, and try to put them at odds so they can drive a wedge between men and women so they cannot stand each other.

And when the new age movement is the unified religious system they will not care about marriage but will pursue things of the occult, and prepare to evolve in the future.

But the homosexuals will say accept us and let us live how we want to live, but then they do not respect the people that are against it for they should not be against the Church if they are against it, and then say accept us for being gay.

And being heterosexual was before homosexual and they are out of place, and it is lust and not love.

And the Church should be against homosexuality and not budge but they should stop doing demonstrations against it, and having rallies against it in public, and leave them alone and they know where the Church stands, and it will make the Church look better, and the Church cannot stop the homosexuality anyway for they will forbid to marry for population reduction when the nations come together and try to establish peace on earth, and the new age movement a unified religious system.
 

Lightskin

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The Bible does not limit God to male patriarchy, as Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at the well, "God is Spirit...". to be worshipped in "Spirit and Truth."
I will not be manipulated by you or any other liberal psycho-babble control freak regarding my relationship with God and how I refer to Him. I will refer to God as He, Him and Father all day every day for all eternity unless He says otherwise. You can take that to the bank. Let me guess, you proclaim Jesus was a genderless human being while walking the Earth. Got it!
 

Hevosmies

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Christians today are obsessed with this topic, they really are. As is the world.

God has already judged some of them, and given them over to a reprobate mind, no hurt in us calling sin for what it is.

Better to say 'hate the sin, not the sinner'. If we love them, we will tell them, because we do not want them to go to hell.
Aaand this is hinduism not Christianity. Quote from Gandhi, yet I see it quoted by Christians as if its a good thing. Psalms 5:5 says God hates ALL workers of iniquity. John 3:16 does in NO WAY contradict Psalm 5:5, it simply means God loved the world and gave His son so that whosoever believes in Him wont perish. But UNTIL they do believe on Him, they are under God's wrath, this same doctrine is revealed in the new testament Romans 1:18 and Ephesians 2:1ff and further in the SAME CHAPTER in John 3 thats often quoted to prove "God loves everyone and God hates the sin not the sinner" non sense. John 3:36 says God's wrath REMAINS(still) on them, WHY? Cause they dont believe/obey the Son

John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.

SAME CHAPTER as John 3:16!!! Get a hold of that one everyone!

All this trip about love and not judging is DESTROYING Christianity from within! God is love and we are not to judge.......... UNRIGHTEOUSLY, we are to first take the beam out of our own eye and THEN we can see to judge rightly, that quote is never finished by people, TICKS ME OFF!
 

Lanolin

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i dont really understand the playing cards bit.

for money.

what kind of card game was she playing? the last card game I played was UNO.

some children wanted to play it and its just to pass the time, its not like a DATE. lol
 

Nehemiah6

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"rejoice in being homophobic"..... I only got that far....... that might stir up some members here. I'm not sure I like that expression myself.
*Homophobic* is not only a misnomer (since phobia means fear) but it is another one of those Left-Liberal labels such as islamophobic, or xenophobic etc, which needs to be rejected out of hand.

No one is afraid of homosexuals so why use a misleading term? But it is meant to shut down free speech against sexual perversion, to the point where they do not want preachers preaching about this sin. And it is the Radical Muslims who have foisted *Islamophobia* on the West, so that ordinary citizens cannot speak out against the evils of Radical Islam and must start capitulating to Muslim demands.

1. Interestingly enough, Islamic countries have the death penalty for homosexuality (I will not use the term *gay* since that is another misnomer. These are sad people).
"12 countries where being gay is legally punishable by death: Yemen, Iran, Brunei, Mauritania, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, Pakistan." (From USA Today)

2. The Law of Moses also had the death penalty for homosexuality: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination... If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Lev 18:22; 20:13)

3. Now here's a Utopian statement: "Rejecting Homosexuality in all its Expressions Without Hurting or Judging Others..."
The problem is that if a Christian were to tell a homosexual person (who asks for an opinion) that this type of sexuality is (a) perverted, (b) sinful, and (c) needs to be repented of -- abandoned, there is no doubt that that person will either be hurt or mad. This is not even a question of *judging* others since what people do behind closed doors is their business. There was a time when it was even against the law in the USA (without the death penalty). Sodomy was a felony punishable by imprisonment or hard labor, and this was decriminalized only recently,


4. The homosexuals in the West are a small part of the population, but because they are well organized, and well funded, they are extremely vocal about their so-called *rights*. But they have gone far beyond that, since no one cares what they do in their bedrooms. However, they want to change the laws of the land as well as the mores of society, so that homosexuality becomes the norm and so does pedophilia. .

5. The majority of politicians wish to *buy* votes by promoting legislation that favors homosexuals, rather than stand up against the pressures of these deviants and perverts. So now we heard recently about even the US military wanting to actually fund transgender operations!

6. Then we have the theologically liberal and apostate denominations ordaining homosexual clergy, and thus perverting Christianity. That simply gives more incentive to homosexuals, who feel it must be *A-OK*.

7. So what should be the position of *a Christian in good standing*? He or she can simply open their Bibles and turn to Romans chapter 1, and tell whoever wants to listen that "This is how God regards homosexuality". And it is serious enough that there is another Scripture (1 Corinthians 6:9) which condemns it altogether so that they cannot enter into the Kingdom of God:

King James Bible
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...

Some modern versions bring this into more stark reality:

New International Version
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men...

New Living Translation
Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality...

New King James Version
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites...
 

John146

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But if they have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior?
Homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. If one has received the Lord as Savior, do you not think the Savior has the power to deliver that person from this?
 

John146

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"rejoice in being homophobic".....
I only got that far....... that might stir up some members here. I'm not sure I like that expression myself.
I’m not afraid of homosexuals, but like brussel sprouts, they make me sick.
 

Dino246

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I haven’t read all the comments, and just have this to say: “homophobia” is a ridiculous term. “Phobia” means fear. Rejection and disagreement on moral grounds is NOT fear.
 

Whispered

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God is spirit and would that He be worshiped in spirit and truth.. When the flesh gets in the way, it is just that, in the way. Remember we are to imitate Jesus Who did not come to condemn rather to forgive. Put this into practice and flesh will no longer block your path.
I think it helps here to remember Jesus, who was God, was very clear to say that homosexuality is an abomination and the sexually immoral, will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.

Homophobic, Homophobia, were words invented to demean the religious and manufacture a false dichotomy between the faithful and the unrepentant damned. Now we're to be the one's in the wrong for holding to Christian values, while those who charge us as being afraid of them are overlooked as the one's afraid of those who ascribe to values that mark them as sinners
The phobes in the equation are those who demand tolerance and yet proudly, publicly, afford none to those who do not concede sexual immorality is above reproach.
 
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some haven t had a chance to use their anti gay ammunition for a while. now before I am accused of Christianaphobia...… :)
 
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7seasrekeyed

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The phobes in the equation are those who demand tolerance and yet proudly, publicly, afford none to those who do not concede sexual immorality is above reproach.
said that many times

needs to be said many times
 
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7seasrekeyed

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my cats don't like to eat them, but even they agree they make great toys. you can even whack them under the stove! what fun!

yes

but they are hard to cook while under there