When was Creation?
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Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
It's more than obvious, God was talking about Earth, not Venus.
And Venus doesn't have water.
And the issue I was responding to was about the 24 hr thing starting on the 4th day, when it clearly started on the 1st, as shown in verse 5.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
It's more than obvious, God was talking about Earth, not Venus.
And Venus doesn't have water.
And the issue I was responding to was about the 24 hr thing starting on the 4th day, when it clearly started on the 1st, as shown in verse 5.
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I look at the way accounts are written in the whole bible, there are accounts that are short and sweet and the same account in other books that are long have more detail of the account in the OT and NT so in the OT missing books could just as likely had given more detail on the events of creation but we won’t know in this life time.
I don’t think there was any real good reason to make three evenings and mornings a separate verse
pretty clear someone mangled with it, that alone I can’t 100% trust that is the proper order.
5God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning the first day.
8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning the second day.
13And there was evening, and there was morning the third day.
19And there was evening, and there was morning the fourth day.
23And there was evening, and there was morning the fifth day.
31And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning the sixth day.
pretty clear someone mangled with it, that alone I can’t 100% trust that is the proper order.
5God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning the first day.
8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning the second day.
13And there was evening, and there was morning the third day.
19And there was evening, and there was morning the fourth day.
23And there was evening, and there was morning the fifth day.
31And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning the sixth day.
Yet the Account still states that the first earth day with sun for the day and moon for the night came into existence on the 4th day of creation.. I do not know what method God used to sustain what he had created before that time.. But i am sure, Being that He was God, that He could sustain that life during that time period before He created the earths 24 hour day..
I have never taken it literally.. the verse states both a day is 1000 years and a 1000 years are as one day and that to me means that there is no time linkage or gear ratio between our created existence and Gods eternal existence.. That's why i could not say how long a day was to the LORD..
2 Peter 3: KJV
8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
So a day in the LORDs time could be like a 1000 years on earth AND 1000 years in the LORD's time could be like a day on earth.. Now to a human perspective or understanding this seems impossible but still that's what the verse is stating..
PS: I have no big issue with people believing in 24 hour days of creation.. I do not consider the issue to be a belief necessary for salvation either way.. I look forward to finding out about all these things from the LORD in eternity Maybe then our minds will be transformed into the state where we will be able to understand such things..
I have never taken it literally.. the verse states both a day is 1000 years and a 1000 years are as one day and that to me means that there is no time linkage or gear ratio between our created existence and Gods eternal existence.. That's why i could not say how long a day was to the LORD..
2 Peter 3: KJV
8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
So a day in the LORDs time could be like a 1000 years on earth AND 1000 years in the LORD's time could be like a day on earth.. Now to a human perspective or understanding this seems impossible but still that's what the verse is stating..
PS: I have no big issue with people believing in 24 hour days of creation.. I do not consider the issue to be a belief necessary for salvation either way.. I look forward to finding out about all these things from the LORD in eternity Maybe then our minds will be transformed into the state where we will be able to understand such things..
What about the 2 Peter passage? Was God asking man to labor for 6,000 years then rest?
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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When I meditate on Genesis, thinking of what Adam may translate as, the translation, mankind, comes to mind, and how Adam sinned.
Adam may also be used as a referrence to earth or dust. Lastly, I believe, Adam means man.
The earth is red, ergo the word red, dam, comes from Adam, Also the word blood, also dam. Dam dam means bright red, and so on. The etymology of so many words is strking when we meditat upon prophesy. God bless all who believe our Redeemer. In the Word He has been called Jesus, Yeshua, and also Yahweh….
Adam may also be used as a referrence to earth or dust. Lastly, I believe, Adam means man.
The earth is red, ergo the word red, dam, comes from Adam, Also the word blood, also dam. Dam dam means bright red, and so on. The etymology of so many words is strking when we meditat upon prophesy. God bless all who believe our Redeemer. In the Word He has been called Jesus, Yeshua, and also Yahweh….
Gen 1:26 KJV And God said, Let us make man ('âdâm H120) in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Adam got his name from the Hebrew word 'âdâm which means man. We do not know what his actual name was, unless his family called him 'man' all the time. Can you imagine it? "Good morning 'man' did you have a good night's sleep 'man'? No, he would have had a proper Hebrew name, we just do not know what it was.
Adam got his name from the Hebrew word 'âdâm which means man. We do not know what his actual name was, unless his family called him 'man' all the time. Can you imagine it? "Good morning 'man' did you have a good night's sleep 'man'? No, he would have had a proper Hebrew name, we just do not know what it was.
"In the beginning" was the beginning of the Hebrew nation. The Bible is about the Hebrew nation, not the whole world.
There were other people already existing. The first humans were living about 2.8 million years ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336
There were other people already existing. The first humans were living about 2.8 million years ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336
Oh Lanolin, please, please, quit trying to bring God's doings into our finite rational. Your puzzled mind come from our limited of understanding time. God created the earth full of life not dark and void [empty].
The earth became dark and void [empty] through mismanagement by Satan (see Eze. 28:16) as a reference to the "mountain" or government of God. God the came to earth in order to re-create the earth for a new work with mankind. The same place He imprisoned Satan and his fallen. More on that in another topic.
When God separated the light from the darkness, it was only from earth's perspective. It is ludicrous to suggest the sun and other stars were created at that time. They simply became visible from the darkened shroud the earth was under.
For the record: I am from the "old earth" school of thought. I believe the earth could be millions or more years old. Also, I prefer to call what some call Micro Evolution: Adaption. Like when cave fish lose their eye by living in complete darkness. God made everything after its own kind.
The earth became dark and void [empty] through mismanagement by Satan (see Eze. 28:16) as a reference to the "mountain" or government of God. God the came to earth in order to re-create the earth for a new work with mankind. The same place He imprisoned Satan and his fallen. More on that in another topic.
When God separated the light from the darkness, it was only from earth's perspective. It is ludicrous to suggest the sun and other stars were created at that time. They simply became visible from the darkened shroud the earth was under.
For the record: I am from the "old earth" school of thought. I believe the earth could be millions or more years old. Also, I prefer to call what some call Micro Evolution: Adaption. Like when cave fish lose their eye by living in complete darkness. God made everything after its own kind.
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