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On another note I was bored one night and started reading the thread right from the beginning.... I think I bookmarked page 800 or so.

Interesting cast of characters come and go! ;)
I do that occasionally.......this thread has weeded many tares and a few misguided souls.....!
 

Melach

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I have a boot....Rocky size 11.5 American hahha......get you guys Marine Boot ready hahhahah
in finland we go to army at 18, all men. get in really good shape, but then we get out and at 27 we are out of breath for waving our finger :D

its easier to stay in shape and maintain it than to rise from bottom.

i can still do like 60 push ups so its not as bad as some people i know. but i used to do 150 no problem.
 

Rosemaryx

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Hi all...
Can someone explain to me what Jesus meant when He said " New wine cannot be put into old wineskin " , was He talking about putting grace under the Law ?
...xox...
 

DeighAnn

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yes, 9 of the 10 were repeated in the N.T. ( not the Sabbath, gentiles were never under the Law, never commanded to keep it).
but, as usual, you did not comment on what I said. Josiah read the book of the Law ( singular).
when was the book divided , and who divided it? why is the Law always mentioned as 1, yet you say it is not?
you got anything on that?
A PERSON MAY HAVE BEEN A GENTILE BEFORE COMING TO CHRIST, BUT A CHRISTIAN AFTERWARD

Funny you can't stand the thought of the Law being divided, but cant come to unity in the body of Christ.

Does God resting on the 7th day help? Try taking it in the spirit, not so much the letter, maybe that will do the trick for you.

Do you realize you never reply to my comments on the subject?? So the "as usual" goes both ways.

THIS IS WHY I SAY THE LAW IS DIVIDED AND BY WHOM

Written by the finger of God vs written by Moses

Written on stone tablets vs written in the book

Placed In the ark of the Covenant vs on the side

Eternal vs temporary

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments and his commandments are not grievous.
vs
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross


John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law for sin is the transgression of the law.

Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

SIN IS TRANSGRESSION OF LAW
ADDED BECAUSE OF TRANSGRESSIONS.
OF PREVIOUS LAW

Deuteronomy 5:6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
Deuteronomy 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Deuteronomy 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Deuteronomy 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deuteronomy 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
Deuteronomy 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
Deuteronomy 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
Deuteronomy 5:16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Deuteronomy 5:17 Thou shalt not kill.
Deuteronomy 5:18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
Deuteronomy 5:19 Neither shalt thou steal.
Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Deuteronomy 5:21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.


Deuteronomy 5:22 These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
 

Melach

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Hi all...
Can someone explain to me what Jesus meant when He said " New wine cannot be put into old wineskin " , was He talking about putting grace under the Law ?
...xox...
i believe He was talking about mixing new covenant with oldcovenant
 
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in finland we go to army at 18, all men. get in really good shape, but then we get out and at 27 we are out of breath for waving our finger :D

its easier to stay in shape and maintain it than to rise from bottom.

i can still do like 60 push ups so its not as bad as some people i know. but i used to do 150 no problem.
I am not in as good as shape as I was as a 20 year old Marine, but even at 52 I am in good shape....can cut, split, stack wood all day, or move rock all day from like 8 am to dark.....not fat, hardly any gut, can work most half my age into the dirt....can curl 100 pounds 30 times no problem.....try to stay in decent shape....used to run about 12 k of distance and then do about 4 k of sprints a day....but now I just walk hahahahahahahahhaahahaa stay around 87 to 90 k weight wise....
 
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No. Clean and Jerk hurts the joints too much. I do powerlifting instead.
Very cool my son was a competitive powerlifter.... now he does weight lifting..... I am trying to catch up to him.... but I have a long way :D:)
 
Dec 12, 2013
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Hi all...
Can someone explain to me what Jesus meant when He said " New wine cannot be put into old wineskin " , was He talking about putting grace under the Law ?
...xox...
Seems to be directed at mixing the covenants.....like oil and water....will never mix.....one superceded the other and the one points at the other..........off the hip here...... ;)
 

Hevosmies

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No. Clean and Jerk hurts the joints too much. I do powerlifting instead.
WARRIOR. Good job bro!

I believe we need more Christian men like this. Im sick and tired of seeing limp wristed loser libtards represent Christianity in the mainstream media and thats precisely the reason why we are getting RAN OVER by the world and every religion on the block. Too soft!

We need people who will STAND UP for the TRUTH and say NO. We WONT bend, we WONT break, we WONT compromise, we DONT care what ANYONE has got to say about ANYTHING and WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? NOTHING

Its like the HULKSTER said in the 80s, WHATCHU GONNA DO BROTHER, when HULKAMANIA runs wild on you brother.

Mr. Grandpa here will probably twist these guys into a pretzel thats what we DO KNOW from what I discovered this man eats steel for breakfast.