Not By Works

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JadenS said:
Jesus says you have to obey him; WHY DON'T YOU LOVE JESUS? :(
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Let's evaluate your record here at CC.....

a. We must maintain our salvation
b. We must keep the law
c. Persavul can judge motive
d. Persavil accuses of not loving Jesus

Persavil, Persavil, Persavil....listen....you are batting zero.....nadda, nil, nothing......and so far all you have proven is.....

a. Do not understand context
b. Scriptures misapplied
c. Peddling religion
d. One error after another scripturally

etc............not good pal
 
Until the day on which, giving commandments by the Holy Ghost to the apostles whom he had chosen, he was taken up.
 
dcontroversal said:
Let's evaluate your record here at CC.....

a. We must maintain our salvation
b. We must keep the law
c. Persavul can judge motive
d. Persavil accuses of not loving Jesus

Persavil, Persavil, Persavil....listen....you are batting zero.....nadda, nil, nothing......and so far all you have proven is.....

a. Do not understand context
b. Scriptures misapplied
c. Peddling religion
d. One error after another scripturally

etc............not good pal
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Please quote a post of mine where you think the Bible verse I posted peddled religion. o_O
 
JadenS said:
I think it would be very funny come judgment day to see the faces of those who claimed to believe Jesus but did not persevere until they end. They will find out their belief was very shallow.
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Yep....Lord lord have we not done<---they will be surprised....same dogma you peddle
 
posthuman said:
that's the way it is with these drug commercials.
no context. just people smiling doing daily activities.
no explanation of what it is or does.
no reason you might need it.
just ask your doctor to allow you to pay $$$ for it.



**disclaimer: taking it may make your life unbearably miserable and/or kill you**
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Interesting analogy... only you @posthuman and your analytical mind :D
 
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JadenS said:
I think it would be very funny come judgment day to see the faces of those who claimed to believe Jesus but did not persevere until they end. They will find out their belief was very shallow.
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Another point....you think it will be funny when people are condemned to hell......more proof you do not know God......He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.....you on the other hand think it is funny!!
 
Can we please all speak Merican? I'm still trying to figure out why people are going to the beach when it's a bitterly cold 30 degrees!
 
JadenS said:
Here is where you said you do not have to obey the New Testament.
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I never said that.....try context pal.....or maybe you are too dense to grasp I was disagreeing with what I already know you are peddling and like the snake in the garden you embellished what I said, added your own words and applied it to me.....not good man or Fran? You are showing by action that you may not know Jesus.....bad deal!
 
JadenS said:
Dcontroversal says he refuses to obey Jesus's commandments of the New Testament.
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thanks for engaging in conversation :)

but pretty sure that's not what he said. Dcon faithfully proclaims the message of the gospel in the NT: believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. when he said 'not hardly' to you he meant you don't work your way into heaven by keeping commandments.

perseverance is perseverance in the faith.

At that time many will turn away from the faith ​
(Matthew 24:10)​
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but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. ​
(Matthew 24:13) ​
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we have been saved and that salvation is unto the good works God prepared for us beforehand
salvation precedes works. there is a causal relationship, and God is the prime causal entity.
we do not cause Him to save us by our works: He saves us according to His mercy and causes us to walk in Him: by faith, not of ourselves, but of Him that both worketh and willeth in us according to His good pleasure.

i appreciate that you want to spur us to good works. but you're not talking to people who do not love Him or people who do not believe Him or people who reject doing what is right. you're talking to people who love Him, who put all their trust in Him, and who believe Him. this thread is over 112 thousand posts of the same message: salvation is by grace through faith, not by works. not by anything we have done but by Him who calls us and who also justifies us and has sanctified us forever with one perfect sacrifice.
 
PennEd said:
Can we please all speak Merican? I'm still trying to figure out why people are going to the beach when it's a bitterly cold 30 degrees!
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Thirty degrees is warm here and the sun is quite piercing so the beaches get packed but you have to be careful of the rips otherwise you can get swept quite quickly into the deep.
 
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