Was Jesus planning to return within a generation?

[Guojing]

I disagree, I believe Jesus IS seated on His throne at the right hand of the Father with all authority in heaven and on earth, just like He says, and is reigning right now until every enemy has been made a footstool for His feet. I agree that it's still in the process of being put under Him, but my Savior Jesus Christ is King right now today!!! Have you ever read the verse you're referring to? It's Isaiah 11, and right after the wolf/lamb lion/lamb verse it goes into explaining how the nations will be gathered, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I DO ABSOLUTELY 100% with all my mind body and spirit believe that Jesus Christ is seated right now reigning until every enemy has been made a footstool for His feet.

I just don't believe I'm waiting for the end of the "world", I don't believe the bible even talks about "the" end, I believe the end of the "aion', or age written about in Revelation came to pass in that generation just like Jesus said it would. I don't think anything you put forth contradicts my beliefs in what Gods word says.

Don't see yourself as a Jew. Jesus was never the "king" of the Body of Christ. We Gentiles are his Bride, a source of comfort to him while he is still being rejected by his Jewish brothers now.

The story of Joseph in Genesis capture this aspect very well. Joseph was rejected by his brothers, had an Egyptian bride. While Jacob and his sons were hungry and lack bread, all the Egyptians had bread because of Joseph.

In his first meeting, his brothers did not recognize him, but in the 2nd meeting, he will finally reveal himself and they will all accept him.

 

[GaryA]

This is the way I have come to see it so far, and it is so awesome knowing Jesus is seated now on His throne with ALL authority in heaven.....and on earth, and is reigning until ALL enemies have been made a footstool for His feet!!!

Jesus is seated at the right hand of the FATHER on HIS throne.

Jesus will sit on His own throne during His 1000-year reign on the earth.

Psalm 110

1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

'LORD' => The FATHER

'Lord' => Jesus

'thou' => Jesus

'my' [right hand] => The FATHER

'I' => The FATHER

'thine' => Jesus

'thy' => Jesus


The FATHER is reigning. (as always)

Jesus is not. (yet)

 

[Adstar]

I disagree, I believe Jesus IS seated on His throne at the right hand of the Father with all authority in heaven and on earth, just like He says, and is reigning right now until every enemy has been made a footstool for His feet. I agree that it's still in the process of being put under Him, but my Savior Jesus Christ is King right now today!!! Have you ever read the verse you're referring to? It's Isaiah 11, and right after the wolf/lamb lion/lamb verse it goes into explaining how the nations will be gathered, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I DO ABSOLUTELY 100% with all my mind body and spirit believe that Jesus Christ is seated right now reigning until every enemy has been made a footstool for His feet.

I just don't believe I'm waiting for the end of the "world", I don't believe the bible even talks about "the" end, I believe the end of the "aion', or age written about in Revelation came to pass in that generation just like Jesus said it would. I don't think anything you put forth contradicts my beliefs in what Gods word says.

Jesus is reigning in His Kingdom now.. He is reigning over His citizens the Saints.. But the kingdoms of the earth have not yet been placed under His direct rule..,

The book of Revelation was written by John years,, some say over 50 years after the assention of Jesus into heaven.. In that book John reveals a prophecy of a future event::

Revelation 11: KJV
15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. {16} And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,"

This happens at the 7th trumpet sounding in the future..

 

[Adstar]

No offense, Adstar, but I believe that you are misquoting Matthew 24:34. That generation did, indeed, see the Kingdom on the day of Pentecost and not just the signs of a future kingdom. You said it in your scripture quote of Matthew 16:28, that the day of Pentecost is when the kingdom was established.

They saw the Spiritual Kingdom founded.. We still await the physical manifestation of that Kingdom upon the earth yet to come.. So yes the Kingdom came into existence on the day of penticost because that was the day the first people of the Kingdom became Citizens..

 

[Ahwatukee]

"Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes." Matthew 10:23

Regarding the above, how do know that Jesus wasn't speaking prior to His resurrection?

"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” Matthew 16:28

The phrase "The Son of Man coming in His kingdom" is erroneously interpreted to refer to Jesus' return to the earth to end the age. However, Jesus was speaking about Peter, John and James seeing Him in His glorified state. Below is the entire context:

"27But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”

28About eight days after Jesus had said these things, He took with Him Peter, John, and James, and went up on a mountain to pray. 29And as He was praying, the appearance of His face changed, and His clothes became radiantly white.

In verse 27, when Jesus says "some who are standing here will not taste of death," He is referring to Peter, John and James, which He took up the mountain with Him. Then in verse 28 is says "About eight days after Jesus had said these things" which means that what is about to be said is linked to Verse 27. In other words, eight days after the Lord had said "there be some standing here who will not taste of death until they see the Son of Man coming in His glory," was referring to Peter, John and James seeing the Lord in His glorified state and has nothing to do with the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. The preterist love to twist this so that they can attempt to use this as proof that the Lord had already returned in 70 AD.

Some who are standing here = Peter, John and James

The Son of Man coming in His kingdom = Fulfilled when Peter, John and James saw Jesus transfigured into His glorified state.

Jesus used the same phrase in another scripture:

"But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."

In the verse above, did Jesus mean that the end of the age had come by saying that "the kingdom of God has come upon you?" No! The kingdom of God coming upon them was in reference to the Lord casting out demons by the Spirit of God. In the same way the reference to "those standing here will not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God" is referring to Peter, John and James seeing the Lord's transfiguration into His glorified state.

"Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened." Matthew 24:34

The above is another scripture that the preterist love to twist in order to support their belief that Jesus has already returned. And that by interpreting "this generation" as referring to the one that Jesus was living in, which is false! Below is the entire context:

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened."

In the scripture above a comparison is being made:

Trees blossoming = Summer is near

All of these signs taking place = The Lord is near to end the age

The generation that the Lord was speaking of, is directly linked with all of those signs that He listed. Therefore, the generation that Jesus is referring to, is the one where those signs take place. Without them, we have no fulfillment. And because Jesus is speaking about the events which must take place leading up to His return to the earth to end the age, then the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which are listed in Revelation must also take place. And believe me, the world has not seen those events by any means. By the time the seventh bowl has been poured out, the majority of the earths population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled.

In Matt.24:31 when Jesus returns to the earth, scripture states that "every eye will see Him and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him." When did this happen? We have no record of this!

At that same time, Jesus sends out His angels to first gather the weeds and then the wheat, which are those who will have made it through the entire tribulation alive. When did this happen? That would be, never!

Revelation 19:11-21 is a detailed account of Jesus return to the earth to end the age. At that time the beast and false prophet will be captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. When did that happen? We would have had to also see the abomination set up and the emergence of the mark of the beast. None of those events have taken place.

Another event that takes place as Jesus is returning to the earth, is that an angel will be calling all of the birds of the air to come and gather themselves to the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, general, mighty men and all people great and small, free and slave. When did that happen?

I haven't even hit on the events of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which must take place leading up the Lord's return. To believe that the Lord has already returned to the earth is utterly ridiculous to even entertain.

 

[Jimbone]

Jesus is seated at the right hand of the FATHER on HIS throne.

Jesus will sit on His own throne during His 1000-year reign on the earth.

Psalm 110

1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

'LORD' => The FATHER

'Lord' => Jesus

'thou' => Jesus

'my' [right hand] => The FATHER

'I' => The FATHER

'thine' => Jesus

'thy' => Jesus


The FATHER is reigning. (as always)

Jesus is not. (yet)

Jesus is reigning in His Kingdom now.. He is reigning over His citizens the Saints.. But the kingdoms of the earth have not yet been placed under His direct rule..,

The book of Revelation was written by John years,, some say over 50 years after the assention of Jesus into heaven.. In that book John reveals a prophecy of a future event::

Revelation 11: KJV
15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. {16} And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,"The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." In no way conflict with my view of Him reigning until all enemies are made a footstool for His feet. You're implying it, but it's not in the text.

This happens at the 7th trumpet sounding in the future..

Just wow. Take a step back and just look at everything you have to add to the simple words of our King to come to the views you're pushing.
Psalm 110

1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Yes He did, and where is Jesus SEATED now?
Mark 19:19 tells us where He went,

19After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

and there are SO many more, but the best confirmation I see is in Acts 7 when Stephen is being stoned and the heavens open and he SEES Jesus at the right hand, right now.


Where does it say "Jesus is reigning in His Kingdom now.. He is reigning over His citizens the Saints.. But the kingdoms of the earth have not yet been placed under His direct rule.." I can't find that part. The whole thing about "now but not yet". The case you're making here with "Are become" and "shall" are pretty weak and honestly fit what I'm saying just as well. One more thing about the "Father reigning now", I believe that first of all they are one, second the very last thing our Lord and God left us with was in Matt. 28, and my favorite scripture of all time"18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

So who is reigning now according to scripture? Who has the name above EVERY name now? Who has all judgement been given to? How about ALL authority in heaven and on earth? So who is King now? Convince me it's not Jesus right now, because so far a very weak job. It doesn't fit right because it's not truth, truth fit's very simply, all this posted above me is just trying too hard to make it say what you think it should say, in my opinion. Jesus has ALL victory, right now, today, forever until it's time to present the fully perfected creation to the Father and dwell together for eternity. Thank you for your input, but I still see it the same way.
Holla-boo-ya!!!

 

[Jimbone]

Jesus is seated at the right hand of the FATHER on HIS throne.

Jesus will sit on His own throne during His 1000-year reign on the earth.

Psalm 110

1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

'LORD' => The FATHER

'Lord' => Jesus

'thou' => Jesus

'my' [right hand] => The FATHER

'I' => The FATHER

'thine' => Jesus

'thy' => Jesus


The FATHER is reigning. (as always)

Jesus is not. (yet)

LOL I disagreed with your post but had to remove it. I do disagree still, but man leaving a huge red "X" (well white, but you know what I mean) on your post just seems too harsh.

 

[Jimbone]

Regarding the above, how do know that Jesus wasn't speaking prior to His resurrection?



The phrase "The Son of Man coming in His kingdom" is erroneously interpreted to refer to Jesus' return to the earth to end the age. However, Jesus was speaking about Peter, John and James seeing Him in His glorified state. Below is the entire context:

"27But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”

28About eight days after Jesus had said these things, He took with Him Peter, John, and James, and went up on a mountain to pray. 29And as He was praying, the appearance of His face changed, and His clothes became radiantly white.

In verse 27, when Jesus says "some who are standing here will not taste of death," He is referring to Peter, John and James, which He took up the mountain with Him. Then in verse 28 is says "About eight days after Jesus had said these things" which means that what is about to be said is linked to Verse 27. In other words, eight days after the Lord had said "there be some standing here who will not taste of death until they see the Son of Man coming in His glory," was referring to Peter, John and James seeing the Lord in His glorified state and has nothing to do with the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. The preterist love to twist this so that they can attempt to use this as proof that the Lord had already returned in 70 AD.

Some who are standing here = Peter, John and James

The Son of Man coming in His kingdom = Fulfilled when Peter, John and James saw Jesus transfigured into His glorified state.

Jesus used the same phrase in another scripture:

"But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."

In the verse above, did Jesus mean that the end of the age had come by saying that "the kingdom of God has come upon you?" No! The kingdom of God coming upon them was in reference to the Lord casting out demons by the Spirit of God. In the same way the reference to "those standing here will not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God" is referring to Peter, John and James seeing the Lord's transfiguration into His glorified state.



The above is another scripture that the preterist love to twist in order to support their belief that Jesus has already returned. And that by interpreting "this generation" as referring to the one that Jesus was living in, which is false! Below is the entire context:

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened."

In the scripture above a comparison is being made:

Trees blossoming = Summer is near

All of these signs taking place = The Lord is near to end the age

The generation that the Lord was speaking of, is directly linked with all of those signs that He listed. Therefore, the generation that Jesus is referring to, is the one where those signs take place. Without them, we have no fulfillment. And because Jesus is speaking about the events which must take place leading up to His return to the earth to end the age, then the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which are listed in Revelation must also take place. And believe me, the world has not seen those events by any means. By the time the seventh bowl has been poured out, the majority of the earths population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled.

In Matt.24:31 when Jesus returns to the earth, scripture states that "every eye will see Him and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him." When did this happen? We have no record of this!

At that same time, Jesus sends out His angels to first gather the weeds and then the wheat, which are those who will have made it through the entire tribulation alive. When did this happen? That would be, never!

Revelation 19:11-21 is a detailed account of Jesus return to the earth to end the age. At that time the beast and false prophet will be captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. When did that happen? We would have had to also see the abomination set up and the emergence of the mark of the beast. None of those events have taken place.

Another event that takes place as Jesus is returning to the earth, is that an angel will be calling all of the birds of the air to come and gather themselves to the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, general, mighty men and all people great and small, free and slave. When did that happen?

I haven't even hit on the events of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which must take place leading up the Lord's return. To believe that the Lord has already returned to the earth is utterly ridiculous to even entertain.

Since you're hip to all this scripture twisting and everything and have everything strait, if the end of the age Jesus was speaking of, the age of the Jewish temple and sacrifice, that did happen to end in the exact time frame Jesus said it would btw, then what exactly is this "aion" or age He was talking about? And please don't label me anything to dismiss me with a group, lets just correspond here. So if aion was not the end of the Jews sacrificial temple worship system, the age to usher in the Messiah, and that came to pass the exact way Jesus said it would, then please let us know what exactly the aion is. Thank you.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

They saw the Spiritual Kingdom founded.. We still await the physical manifestation of that Kingdom upon the earth yet to come.. So yes the Kingdom came into existence on the day of penticost because that was the day the first people of the Kingdom became Citizens..

The physical manifestation of the church, his kingdom, was the first members of the church.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

"Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes." Matthew 10:23

"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” Matthew 16:28

"Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened." Matthew 24:34

IMO,"REACH"In this verse Is another way of saying - get them to agree.

 

[Jimbone]

Since you're hip to all this scripture twisting and everything and have everything strait, if the end of the age Jesus was speaking of, the age of the Jewish temple and sacrifice, that did happen to end in the exact time frame Jesus said it would btw, then what exactly is this "aion" or age He was talking about? And please don't label me anything to dismiss me with a group, lets just correspond here. So if aion was not the end of the Jews sacrificial temple worship system, the age to usher in the Messiah, and that came to pass the exact way Jesus said it would, then please let us know what exactly the aion is. Thank you.

Sorry Ahwatukee, this comment wasn't meant for you, I hope that's why you thought it didn't fit what you said. I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

[Jimbone]

They saw the Spiritual Kingdom founded.. We still await the physical manifestation of that Kingdom upon the earth yet to come.. So yes the Kingdom came into existence on the day of Pentecost because that was the day the first people of the Kingdom became Citizens..

Agreed, the only thing I don't understand why it is such a stretch to believe that the judgement against the covenant breakers that ended the aion, that He promised would follow within a generation just like Jesus said. I mean what He said would happen is a matter of indisputable historical fact, I mean it happen, literally, exactly how He said it would. That is amazing in my view, and makes me excited to proclaim our King!!! I think the stretch comes when you try to push the fulfillment of these things forward and apply His words like He was speaking to us. He wasn't. His words are for everyone for all time, but He really said these things to people in His time, and He was not speaking to us, He wasn't and you can't read it like that. You have to keep context.

 

[garee]

Jesus is reigning in His Kingdom now.. He is reigning over His citizens the Saints.. But the kingdoms of the earth have not yet been placed under His direct rule..,

The book of Revelation was written by John years,, some say over 50 years after the assention of Jesus into heaven.. In that book John reveals a prophecy of a future event::

Revelation 11: KJV
15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. {16} And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,"

This happens at the 7th trumpet sounding in the future..

Reminded me of Jericho. Yes the last day. The day of judgment for those with no faith in God. Jericho the word having to with scent (the smell of death) and redemption Israel having to do with the sweet fragrance of eternal life with those who did have faith coming from God.

The walls of that city used to represent the kingdoms of this world fell. The first heavens and earth have passed away. In the new, no temple walls needed. The Sun and the moon are no longer needed. The denominations as kingdoms or sects of this world have become the kingdoms of the Spirit of Truth, our living God.

Six times in the book of John the Holy Spirit relates judgment day and redemption, resurrection day as one work in twinkling of the eye. The last day. Or latter day according to Job 19.

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.Revelation 21:22:23

 

[garee]

Regarding the above, how do know that Jesus wasn't speaking prior to His resurrection?



The phrase "The Son of Man coming in His kingdom" is erroneously interpreted to refer to Jesus' return to the earth to end the age. However, Jesus was speaking about Peter, John and James seeing Him in His glorified state. Below is the entire context:

"27But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”

28About eight days after Jesus had said these things, He took with Him Peter, John, and James, and went up on a mountain to pray. 29And as He was praying, the appearance of His face changed, and His clothes became radiantly white.

In verse 27, when Jesus says "some who are standing here will not taste of death," He is referring to Peter, John and James, which He took up the mountain with Him. Then in verse 28 is says "About eight days after Jesus had said these things" which means that what is about to be said is linked to Verse 27. In other words, eight days after the Lord had said "there be some standing here who will not taste of death until they see the Son of Man coming in His glory," was referring to Peter, John and James seeing the Lord in His glorified state and has nothing to do with the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. The preterist love to twist this so that they can attempt to use this as proof that the Lord had already returned in 70 AD.

Some who are standing here = Peter, John and James

The Son of Man coming in His kingdom = Fulfilled when Peter, John and James saw Jesus transfigured into His glorified state.

Jesus used the same phrase in another scripture:

"But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."

In the verse above, did Jesus mean that the end of the age had come by saying that "the kingdom of God has come upon you?" No! The kingdom of God coming upon them was in reference to the Lord casting out demons by the Spirit of God. In the same way the reference to "those standing here will not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God" is referring to Peter, John and James seeing the Lord's transfiguration into His glorified state.



The above is another scripture that the preterist love to twist in order to support their belief that Jesus has already returned. And that by interpreting "this generation" as referring to the one that Jesus was living in, which is false! Below is the entire context:

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened."

In the scripture above a comparison is being made:

Trees blossoming = Summer is near

All of these signs taking place = The Lord is near to end the age

The generation that the Lord was speaking of, is directly linked with all of those signs that He listed. Therefore, the generation that Jesus is referring to, is the one where those signs take place. Without them, we have no fulfillment. And because Jesus is speaking about the events which must take place leading up to His return to the earth to end the age, then the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which are listed in Revelation must also take place. And believe me, the world has not seen those events by any means. By the time the seventh bowl has been poured out, the majority of the earths population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled.

In Matt.24:31 when Jesus returns to the earth, scripture states that "every eye will see Him and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him." When did this happen? We have no record of this!

At that same time, Jesus sends out His angels to first gather the weeds and then the wheat, which are those who will have made it through the entire tribulation alive. When did this happen? That would be, never!

Revelation 19:11-21 is a detailed account of Jesus return to the earth to end the age. At that time the beast and false prophet will be captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. When did that happen? We would have had to also see the abomination set up and the emergence of the mark of the beast. None of those events have taken place.

Another event that takes place as Jesus is returning to the earth, is that an angel will be calling all of the birds of the air to come and gather themselves to the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, general, mighty men and all people great and small, free and slave. When did that happen?

I haven't even hit on the events of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments which must take place leading up the Lord's return. To believe that the Lord has already returned to the earth is utterly ridiculous to even entertain.

Regarding the above as asked... how do know that Jesus wasn't speaking prior to His resurrection?

Because when he as the Son of man left after the one time demonstration. When he made it clear to new creatures (Christians) The commandment . . ."From then on we are know him no more after the flesh. (what the eyes see)"

The one time promised demonstration is over .The veil is rent indicating he did come . .Why would a person crucify him over and over to public shame?

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

The unbelieving Jew are typified as antichrists.They suffered a great tribulation when the reformation came. One like never before or ever again. . . it continues .But again there is not another demonstration promised. Blasphemy against the unseen Holy Spirt is not forgivable. They need to hear the gospel and beleive.

Mark 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

The veil remains rent. No more promised demonstrations of the work of the unseen Spirit.
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1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

The generation that the Lord was speaking of was the generation of Adam called the evil generation .The generation of marked men like that of faithless Cain .The generation of no faith called a forward generation. . They will be here under the Sun until the last day . This is when the letter of the law that kills is cast into the eternal fire. never to rise and condemn and corrupt another whole creation.

 

[Adstar]

1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Yes He did, and where is Jesus SEATED now?

Please read that verse again.. Slowly and clearly.. Jesus is to Sit on the Right hand of God UNTIL God makes his enemies His footstool.. So where has Jesus been seated since He ascended into Heaven? At the right hand of the Father and He is still seated there today.. So has all the enemies been made his footstool yet??? NO!!! Why because Jesus is still sitting at the right hand of the Father.. He is staying there as directed until God makes His enemies His footstool..

Once all His enemies are made His footstool then Jesus will leave the right Hand of the Father and return to earth at His second coming as revealed in the Book of Revelation and elsewhere in prophecy in the scriptures..

So the very verse you use to try and prove that all the nations of the world are the nations of Jesus reveals that all the nations of the world are not as yet the nations of Jesus..

 

[Adstar]

The physical manifestation of the church, his kingdom, was the first members of the church.

It was a spiritual Kingdom at the time because their corrupt bodies could not and will not be part of the perfect Eternal Kingdom..

1 Corinthians 15: KJV
49 "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. {50} Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. {51} Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, {52} In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. {53} For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. {54} So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

 

[garee]

It was a spiritual Kingdom at the time because their corrupt bodies could not and will not be part of the perfect Eternal Kingdom..

1 Corinthians 15: KJV
49 "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. {50} Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. {51} Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, {52} In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. {53} For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. {54} So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Yes, I would offer. Abel is the first recorded member of the chaste virgin bride, the church . First martyr also that walked by the faith of God. .His blood cries out even today as a witness to his new born again faith .Hearing the gospel . . he believed unto salvation.
receiving the end of his new faith a labor of God's love that did work in him to both will and do the good pleasure of God .Having it from the beginning just as us today..

Like Timothy in whom Paul was used as a surrogate womb, suffered in birth pain till Christ, the born again seed of gospel was formed in Timothy.

Galatians 4:18-20 King James Version (KJV) But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you. My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.

Like a zealous mother desiring the best for her children.
2 Corinthians 11:2 King James Version (KJV) For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

In Revelation 12, its the end of time the sun and moon under the feet of his chaste virgin bride the church .She having a glow clothed with the righteousness of Christ she stands in the presence of God like being clothed with the Sun coming down prepared as the city of Christ. . . Christians as residents of that city a new name God name his chaste virgin bride.... a name befitting for His wife.

Revelation 12:1-2 King James Version (KJV)And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she
being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

She (above) suffering in pain of birth the chaste vigin bride the church, the mother of us all spoken of in . Galaitians 4:26

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. Galaitians 4:26

Revelation 21:22-23 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

 

[Dino246]

... Like Timothy in whom Paul was used as a surrogate womb, suffered in birth pain till Christ, the born again seed of gospel was formed in Timothy.

Galatians 4:18-20 King James Version (KJV) But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you. My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.

Paul's message to the GALATIANS is not talking about TIMOTHY.

 

[Jimbone]

Please read that verse again.. Slowly and clearly.. Jesus is to Sit on the Right hand of God UNTIL God makes his enemies His footstool.. So where has Jesus been seated since He ascended into Heaven? At the right hand of the Father and He is still seated there today.. So has all the enemies been made his footstool yet??? NO!!! Why because Jesus is still sitting at the right hand of the Father.. He is staying there as directed until God makes His enemies His footstool..

Once all His enemies are made His footstool then Jesus will leave the right Hand of the Father and return to earth at His second coming as revealed in the Book of Revelation and elsewhere in prophecy in the scriptures..

So the very verse you use to try and prove that all the nations of the world are the nations of Jesus reveals that all the nations of the world are not as yet the nations of Jesus..

Acts 2:33-34

33 Exalted, then, to the right hand of God, He has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend into heaven, but he himself says: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, 35 until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”’

Luke 20:41-43
41 Then Jesus declared, “How can it be said that the Christ is the Son of David? 42 For David himself says in the book of Psalms:
‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand 43 until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

Mark 16:19
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

I could go on and on with this because there are so many, so I understand very clearly what it says, but it's your assertion what “until” makes it mean, I reject. I in no way what so ever think that can possible even suggest that mean sit a
Paul helps clarify in 1 Cor 15:20-28

20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him.

24 Then the end will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power. 25 For He must reign until (until when?), until  “He has put all His enemies under His feet“. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28 And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.

So, what is Jesus doing while sitting at the right hand with ALL authority in heaven and on earth? I would argue reigning right now, His Spirit is conquering all right now. So maybe I have read a bit more carefully than you think, and hopefully whether you agree or not you can at least see why I think this view fits the text much better to me than the view that need 3 full pages of text to explain why 4-5 verses that clearly say “it’s coming soon, this generation”, doesn’t mean what it clearly says and actually means that it’s going to happen a long, long, time from now. I’m sorry but I think you’re making the same exact mistake the Jews were and are still making and you’re looking for Jesus to come bringing an earthly kingdom we can see and point to saying, “there’s the kingdom”, just exactly like Jesus said you couldn’t do in Luke 17:20,21

” 20When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs. 21Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”



So please don’t come at me as if you need to squat down and use small words, just ask me why I think this or, how did I come to this conclusion. Don’t come at me like you’re having to “explain to the kids again” or something like that. It’s very off putting. And all that said I’m not talking about tip toeing around the tulips, be direct, strait forward and direct, just let’s try to leave the jabs out.

Anyway as for your questions,

So, where has Jesus been seated since He ascended into Heaven? At the right hand. At the right hand of the Father and He is still seated there today.. So has all the enemies been made his footstool yet??? His enemies are being made His footstool, right now today. I’m one of them, and He is at the right hand right now, reigning with ALL authority in heaven and…and where else??? That’s right, on earth. Until when? There’s that “until” from before, until when? Until all enemies have been made a footstool for His feet.

This all fit’s flawlessly to me, but I’ve believed what you believe now too so I also know truly saved children of God can have differing beliefs, and I just want to share, learn, and grow with you guys for His glory. So have a good day and weekend man.

 

[Jimbone]

Don't see yourself as a Jew. Jesus was never the "king" of the Body of Christ. We Gentiles are his Bride, a source of comfort to him while he is still being rejected by his Jewish brothers now.

The story of Joseph in Genesis capture this aspect very well. Joseph was rejected by his brothers, had an Egyptian bride. While Jacob and his sons were hungry and lack bread, all the Egyptians had bread because of Joseph.

In his first meeting, his brothers did not recognize him, but in the 2nd meeting, he will finally reveal himself and they will all accept him.

Really? This is a problem for you? Me as a spiritual Jew inwardly, circumcised of the heart, by His grace spiritually resurrected and reconciled to the Creator and forever indwelt by His Spirit, calling Jesus the Christ King? This is a big deal in your head? Did I even say Jesus is "King of the Bride"? I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here, it sounds like you're scolding me for saying something I didn't even say, then it goes into left field had has nothing to do with "king", or my comment at all from what I can tell. Also for the record, Jesus is my King, and yours too. What exactly was your point here?