Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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Guojing said:
You are not aware that God forbid the Jews to have any dealings with the gentiles during the ot?

Why do you think Samaritans are so despised by the Jews?
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My God the true God, Jesus while on earth, did not despise the Samaritans.

You have just proved the point I was making about the Jews having another god.

As Jesus said, "If you knew the Father, you would know me."
 
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PS said:
My God the true God, Jesus while on earth, did not despise the Samaritans.

You have just proved the point I was making about the Jews having another god.

As Jesus said, "If you knew the Father, you would know me."
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When I said Jews, you claim I said Jesus.

I was extending grace to you but it is clear you are not interested in a rational discussion.

By the way, Samaritans are half Jews, they descended from Jews who intermarry with gentiles.
 
Guojing said:
When I said Jews, you claim I said Jesus.

I was extending grace to you but it is clear you are not interested in a rational discussion.

By the way, Samaritans are half Jews, they descended from Jews who intermarry with gentiles.
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The Jews who have their own god despised the Samaritans. (You said that) The true God, the Father, who loves the whole world, Samaritans included, sent His Son to save the Jews from their iniquities.

So, who was the God of the Jews? It was not the Father. You have a false god. And a false religion.
 
Guojing said:
When I said Jews, you claim I said Jesus.

I was extending grace to you but it is clear you are not interested in a rational discussion.

By the way, Samaritans are half Jews, they descended from Jews who intermarry with gentiles.
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Some people just don't, wont, or can't understand things like Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. What do you do?? Good luck to you, with them.
 
Guojing said:
You are not aware that God forbid the Jews to have any dealings with the gentiles during the ot?

Why do you think Samaritans are so despised by the Jews?
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I am aware of Jewish hate for all nations, cannanites et. al.

The true God is a God of love for the whole world.
 
PS said:
I am aware of Jewish hate for all nations, cannanites et. al.

The true God is a God of love for the whole world.
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Like a fish who finds it impossible to explain what water is, I think its very difficult for you to understand the context of the Old Testament.

That is understandable.
 
PS said:
I understand the Jewish god of war.
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Then you should understand this as well:
1 Corinthians 12
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

Perhaps you are confusing "love" with "will?"
Because this doesn't sound at all, like the "god" you have described. Does it?
Matthew 7
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

No ,JESUS did not tell anyone to break the law but anyone that was under law would have to be perfect or they would not be acceptable and although delighted In the law of GOD In their minds they would be brought Into captivity to the law of sin because the flesh was weak.

JESUS told the rich young ruler to keep the law but he could not keep all the law perfectly.
 
seed_time_harvest said:
Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

No ,JESUS did not tell anyone to break the law but anyone that was under law would have to be perfect or they would not be acceptable and although delighted In the law of GOD In their minds they would be brought Into captivity to the law of sin because the flesh was weak.

JESUS told the rich young ruler to keep the law but he could not keep all the law perfectly.
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The most interesting discovery when you read the scripture on your own is, not only the resurrected Christ NOT tell the 11 that the law of Moses is nailed to the cross, he continue to tell them in the Matthew version of the great commission, to teach all to obey everything he had commanded them. And yes, he commanded them to follow the law of Moses too in Matthew 5.

So the idea that the law of Moses was done away with, immediately after he has died and resurrected, is not scriptural. It is a result of people reading Paul into the 4 gospels.
 
DeighAnn said:
How do you know you are a former "pagan or heathen or gentile" as opposed to "one of the scattered sheep"?
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As far as I can remember I'm not one of the scattered sheep. The best words I can think of to describe myself is "a former unbeliever".
 
Marcelo said: Jesus, while on Earth, taught obedience to the law of Moses. Do you guys, in your church, observe the following?

Season all your grain offerings with salt. Do not leave the salt of the covenant of your God out of your grain offerings; add salt to all your offerings. Leviticus 2:13 New International Version (NIV)
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wokinluv said:
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. Romans 3:19-20

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

Life Through the Spirit

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.
Romans 8:1-7)

For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law. Hebrews 7:12

Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. Galatians 6:2

Which law do you follow?

Which one are you under?

Are you a Jew, a Gentile or a new creation in Christ? (Read Ephesians 2:11-22)

since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. Romans 3:30-31

The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Romans 13:9 (see Matthew 19:16-30)

Without LOVE you are nothing and LOVE is to WALK in OBEDIENCE to His commands which Jesus has set as an example that we should follow in His steps when He walked on this earth IN LOVE or in OBEDIENCE to God's will and commands (1 Peter 2:21, Ephesians 2:10, 1 Corinthians 13:1-13, 2 John 1:6, Hebrews 5:7-9, Galatians 5:6)

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

The word/s of the Master is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.

Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour and walk in Love.

God is good and His LOVE endures forever. Amen
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You didn't answer my question.
 
PS said:
Sounds to me, the way you all keep going on about keeping the law that cannot be kept, that you all have a death wish.
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Why do you say that that those who go on about keeping the law have a death wish ,are you talking about those that are trying to keep the law have a death wish?

I don’t believe anyone can keep the law perfectly and that’s why I believe what JESUS said.

side note
All the prophets and the law are summed up In one word,love.And love Is fruit of the spirit that comes from those that receive sustenance from the vine.

owe no one anything but love.
 
seed_time_harvest said:
Why do you say that that those who go on about keeping the law have a death wish ,are you talking about those that are trying to keep the law have a death wish?

I don’t believe anyone can keep the law perfectly and that’s why I believe what JESUS said.

side note
All the prophets and the law are summed up In one word,love.And love Is fruit of the spirit that comes from those that receive sustenance from the vine.

owe no one anything but love.
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If you admit you cannot keep the law, then what is the alternative, other than condemnation?

And don't say love.
 
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