Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

I went through the Covenant Theological Seminary.

But I did it online.

Lots of really good classes on stuff. Some of it was kind of boring/tedious. But it was free back when I was going through it. Which was about 2008-2009.

I was in in the mid 90's......good stuff for sure.....learned to utilize the available tools to study with.....Heaps of classes

 

[limmuwd]

Repent and personally surrender your life to me,living a life inspired by such surrender."

That's the true meaning of Mark 1:15

No such thing as " believe in the Gospel" for salvation.

Amen. You are absolutely correct.

True Biblical Repentance, and the teaching of the requirements of God upon those who claim the Name of Christ, is scarcely found in many congregations today.

Indeed, without an actual turning away from our sins, we abide in darkness still.

“Repent,” Peter said to them, “and be baptized, each of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." - Acts 2:38

 

[UnderGrace]

Amen. You are absolutely correct.

True Biblical Repentance, and the teaching of the requirements of God upon those who claim the Name of Christ, is scarcely found in many congregations today.

Indeed, without an actual turning away from our sins, we abide in darkness still.

“Repent,” Peter said to them, “and be baptized, each of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." - Acts 2:38

If you are working for your salvation you are on the wrong path.

 

[limmuwd]

Correct.

Heb 5:7 During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.

Amen.

Indeed, we are to obey the commandments of God given through Christ if we are to inherit the promises of God in Rev 2 & 3.
And this obedience is not to get "saved", but to enter into that "salvation" Jesus is bringing "to those who are waiting for Him." (Heb 9:28).

And again, it is to "saved" people that Jesus is saying -

"If you keep My commands you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commands and remain in His love." - John 15:10

May we be found "remaining" or "abiding" in His love today, because we are walking in obedience to His commands.

 

[limmuwd]

If you are working for your salvation you are on the wrong path.

I am not 'working for my salvation', I am "working it out" as the Apostle said we must do. (Phil 2:12)

The Path, or Way, that I am on, is to "inherit" the promises of God in Rev 2 & 3, which we must "walk worthy" of, and "overcome" to receive.
We've talking about things way beyond being "saved" here. I'm looking at "Tabernacles", entering into the "rest of God."

Dear saints, let us not quibble about semantics, but rather "let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works... exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching." (Heb 10:24-25)

Peace & Blessings.

 

[UnderGrace]

And this obedience is not to get "saved", but to enter into that "salvation"

sounds like double speak

 

[UnderGrace]

I am not 'working for my salvation', I am "working it out" as the Apostle said we must do. (Phil 2:12)

The Path, or Way, that I am on, is to "inherit" the promises of God in Rev 2 & 3, which we must "walk worthy" of, and "overcome" to receive.
We've talking about things way beyond being "saved" here. I'm looking at "Tabernacles", entering into the "rest of God."

Dear saints, let us not quibble about semantics, but rather "let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works... exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching." (Heb 10:24-25)

Peace & Blessings.

We do not work out our "spiritual" salvation, you are not rightly dividing scripture.

 

[limmuwd]

sounds like double speak

It's Bible, my friend.

In Heb 9:28, we find that Jesus will bring "salvation" to those who have already been "saved" who are "waiting for Him."

 

[UnderGrace]

I am not 'working for my salvation', I am "working it out" as the Apostle said we must do. (Phil 2:12)

The Path, or Way, that I am on, is to "inherit" the promises of God in Rev 2 & 3, which we must "walk worthy" of, and "overcome" to receive.
We've talking about things way beyond being "saved" here. I'm looking at "Tabernacles", entering into the "rest of God."

Dear saints, let us not quibble about semantics, but rather "let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works... exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching." (Heb 10:24-25)

Peace & Blessings.

You are just lucky I have to go to work .... no peace in this doctrine.

 

[Noose]

Nice twist of the word of God.....so did you change the order of the wording on purpose to fit your theology or just pick a particular translation........or what....

What order?

Titus 2:11
New International Version
For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.

New Living Translation
For the grace of God has been revealed, bringing salvation to all people.

English Standard Version
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

Berean Study Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

Berean Literal Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

New American Standard Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

New King James Version
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,

King James Bible
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Christian Standard Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

 

[Noose]

What does the phrase "Saviour, Jesus Christ" mean to you?

It means saviour of all men. But not all men end up saved, i wonder why?

 

[dcontroversal]

What order?

Titus 2:11
New International Version
For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.

New Living Translation
For the grace of God has been revealed, bringing salvation to all people.

English Standard Version
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

Berean Study Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

Berean Literal Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

New American Standard Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

New King James Version
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,

King James Bible
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Christian Standard Bible
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

Yep....your application of the verse is a bubble off plum!

 

[limmuwd]

We do not work out our "spiritual" salvation, you are not rightly dividing scripture.

Oh friend, we are on different pages here, and I'll not argue with you. You are referring to when we are "saved" from bondage to sin, as Israel was saved from bondage in Egypt (see 1Cor 10).

What I teach, by the direction of God, is that "eternal salvation" which is yet to come, and what the "priesthood" will be clothed with in that Day... salvation for man and all creation. The Inheritance of Creation

Being "saved" is the very first step of our Journey. How we behave in our "wilderness" determines our Eternal destiny.

Peace & Blessings, Wisdom & Understanding to all,
Michael

https://to-him-who-overcomes.com/

 

[Noose]

More proof you do not know what you are talking about right here in this verse.....wow man....In all honesty, you are one of the top 4 or 5 twisters, rejectors, embellishers, deniers of the word of God that I have ever seen...the things you say point to the fact rhat you really do not know the bible...........wow!

I'm sure i know what i'm talking about.

 

[Noose]

If this question is genuine, it proves emphatically that you have no inkling of the word and to whom or how it is applied!

Grace and justification is for ALL MEN and not just a few:

Titus 2:11For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

Rom 5:18So then, just as one trespass brought condemnation for all men, so also one act of righteousness brought justification and life for all men.

 

[limmuwd]

You are just lucky I have to go to work .... no peace in this doctrine.

Oh friend, the greatest peace and greatest promise is only found in what the Lord has given me through His Word to teach.

To Him Who Overcomes

 

[Noose]

According to you and your dreamboat anti-gospel, no one is saved......and the way you apply scripture is hilariously sad and inept at the same time.....My handicapped kid knows more than you when it comes to the correct message!

Ok, let me hear your valid explanation of Heb 5:7-9 then.

 

[Noose]

Everybody.

Correct. Grace and salvation applies to all men but not all men are victorious, so what happens to those that fail?

 

[Noose]

Yep....your application of the verse is a bubble off plum!

Nope. It is your application that is off.

Rom 5:18Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.

 

[Lightskin]

That's too bad and was frustrating I am sure!

Having unmitigated faith in Jesus Christ basically made me an outcast in the eyes of the elitist, White, bourgeois faculty. Imagine that.