Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[wokinluv]

No,

i just I wanted you to for once share what you believe,

but just like your buddy, you do not think you have to answer

again, you hurt yourself

I have posted scriptures that would clearly show, inform you and share with you about my beliefs but you just trampled/trodden on it and called it meaningless...remember?

You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:34-37

 

[NayborBear]

Yawn

the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the spirit,

and ph 2 tells us to work out the salvation in us

i work on this every day

while you work FOR salvation

next

Matthew 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

How 'bout that? Ya been there? What was it like? Did ya "see" anyone/anything? Did ya "hear" anyone/anything?
Hear any "angels?" Did ya "test THEM" to "see" if "they" were of God? Did you "hear" the "voice of the Lord?" Test that voice as well?
Anything you CARE to SHARE?
I'm all ears EG!

 

[NayborBear]

Yeah he does

except when i asked him if he considers himself a tax collector or pharisee, then silence.

then you and he both continue to prove you have no idea what i believe,

THATS the issue dude

I wouldn't answer that question either!

I believe you blow the breeze out of your pie hole in bending your wheat, to whichever direction that suits ya, at any particular moment. Long as you end up "the winner."
Not good EG! Not good at all!

 

[NayborBear]

Matthew 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

How 'bout that? Ya been there? What was it like? Did ya "see" anyone/anything? Did ya "hear" anyone/anything?
Hear any "angels?" Did ya "test THEM" to "see" if "they" were of God? Did you "hear" the "voice of the Lord?" Test that voice as well?
Anything you CARE to SHARE?
I'm all ears EG!

Yeah? That all too familiar sound of CRICKETS!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have posted scriptures that would clearly show, inform you and share with you about my beliefs but you just trampled/trodden on it and called it meaningless...remember?

You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:34-37

Yeah and i habe shown you scriptures that show you are wrong

and all you do is attack, slander and lie about what i believe. And you think that helps you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Matthew 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

How 'bout that? Ya been there? What was it like? Did ya "see" anyone/anything? Did ya "hear" anyone/anything?
Hear any "angels?" Did ya "test THEM" to "see" if "they" were of God? Did you "hear" the "voice of the Lord?" Test that voice as well?
Anything you CARE to SHARE?
I'm all ears EG!

You know jesus was talking to you do you not?

remember, i am the tax collector., not the self righteous person who thinks he can follow the law

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wouldn't answer that question either!

I believe you blow the breeze out of your pie hole in bending your wheat, to whichever direction that suits ya, at any particular moment. Long as you end up "the winner."
Not good EG! Not good at all!

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its bad enough you slander me, now this?

and you call yourself a righteous person

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yeah? That all too familiar sound of CRICKETS!

Crickets?

yeah i hear that when i ask you what i believe or any questions

i mean,, you tried to share, and could not even get it half way right, and when i told you, notice, you gave up,

can you act like a christian by trying to have a decent conversation?

 

[NayborBear]

You know jesus was talking to you do you not?

remember, i am the tax collector., not the self righteous person who thinks he can follow the law

Yeah! I caught the small "j", of your jesus EG! Did you?

 

[NayborBear]

Crickets?

yeah i hear that when i ask you what i believe or any questions

i mean,, you tried to share, and could not even get it half way right, and when i told you, notice, you gave up,

can you act like a christian by trying to have a decent conversation?

All I can do is answer a question. I can't make you "accept" my answer, because it doesn't agree with whatever preconceived notions you have on any particular matter, at any particular moment.

 

[Grandpa]

The carnal man hates the things of the Spirit/righteousness, and conversely the spiritual man hates the things of unrighteousness.

That's true.

Its just too bad you have no idea what true Righteousness is. I'll post some scriptures and see if you can spot what righteousness is and what it isn't.

Romans 9:30-32
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Galatians 2:19-21
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

1 Corinthians 1:30-31
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?


I suppose if you understood what these scriptures say you wouldn't post against them all the time.

I bet there are some who understand them and can see your error as clearly as I do.

 

[DeighAnn]

The self righteous person doesn't follow Gods law, they follow their own.

 

[SimpleGardner]

That's true.

Its just too bad you have no idea what true Righteousness is. I'll post some scriptures and see if you can spot what righteousness is and what it isn't.

Romans 9:30-32
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Galatians 2:19-21
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

1 Corinthians 1:30-31
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?


I suppose if you understood what these scriptures say you wouldn't post against them all the time.

I bet there are some who understand them and can see your error as clearly as I do.

I appreciate you sharing the details of your doctrinal interpretations....We have been through the scriptures on these points before.

 

[Guojing]

Well, sort of.

I believe it is a Spiritual happening and not a literal one.

I believe it is the Father drawing people to Christ.

Yep it is understandable why some would consider your beliefs as replacement theology

 

[wokinluv]

Yeah and i habe shown you scriptures that show you are wrong

and all you do is attack, slander and lie about what i believe. And you think that helps you

So do you now consider your own words as scriptures too? It's not surprising how you make the Lord your servant as well. Do you want proof?

Here's another "MEANINGLESS" (according to you) which you also consider as an attack, slander and lie.

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you toward repentance? But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God “will give to each person according to what he has done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.
Romans 2:1-11

And if you want more "MEANINGLESS" that attacks, slander and lie about your belief, it's my pleasure. Enjoy your reading.

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
Romans 2:12-16

Life Through the Spirit Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so...
Romans 8:1-17

The word/s of God is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.

Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.

God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yeah! I caught the small "j", of your jesus EG! Did you?

yawn

 

[eternally-gratefull]

All I can do is answer a question. I can't make you "accept" my answer, because it doesn't agree with whatever preconceived notions you have on any particular matter, at any particular moment.

lol

You cant even tell me what i believe, how can i trust anything you say?
just being honest

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The self righteous person doesn't follow Gods law, they follow their own.

No

the self righteous person follows the law

just for personal reasons. They boast in it, they judge ohers who they deem do not follow it, and focus solely on self

The pharisee according to the law were righteous people, Jesus knew their heart, and he also knew their sins (no one can keep the law)

 

[NayborBear]

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its bad enough you slander me, now this?

and you call yourself a righteous person

It doesn't matter at all, what I call, or don't call myself EG! But, seeings how you're "pressing the issue?" I consider that which I'm doing as "investing talents" which has been given me, by God! (kinda sounds like Rush Lindbaugh don't it? )

God calls me "righteous" in His eyes. Jesus of Nazareth calls me "righteous" in His eyes as well!
After understanding, and being "shown", just how much of a man's/woman's "heart/soul/spirit/strength" (myself included) try "entering" (forcing themselves) into the "sheeps pen" by some other way than the "Sheep Gate", which is Jesus Christ of Nazareth? Sounds more to me, you "act more a pharasee", then tax collector. (whatever the term "tax collector" means to you)
Judging angels guilty, when they cannot, or do not confess Jesus Christ is come in flesh? Is mandated by Paul! Er perhaps you didn't receive that memo, eh? For the "record?" One is judged (by Christ btw) for not judging angels.
How this may appear in your eyes, and precepts of men's eyes, and/or traditions of mens' eyes?
As you may have noticed? Hasn't stopped me from testifying and baring witness, to that which occurs after one hears the "voice of the Lord", and answers His call!
As you also may have noticed. It hasn't got me "booted" off CC either.

 

[Grandpa]

I appreciate you sharing the details of your doctrinal interpretations....We have been through the scriptures on these points before.

Yes, we have.

But you have not acknowledged them.

Until you understand that Righteousness is not by your work at the law but it is only in and through Christ you will continue to accuse Christians of "loving" sin because they don't work at the law like you do.


So far, I don't think anyone has believed your accusations. But the law is powerful in that it adds the weight of God to those accusations. Until a person has come to Christ and received Rest from their work at the law and find out first hand what True Righteousness is. Then all those accusations become merely a vain attempt to turn Christianity into what the Pharisees couldn't turn it into in Acts 15. A blend of Judaism and pseudo "belief" in Christ.