So your point is that following the law of Moses was not even required in the OT? Just believe in God is sufficient?
Following the perfect law of God is believing God .
The law is perfect converting our soul giving us understanding of Him not seen.
So your point is that following the law of Moses was not even required in the OT? Just believe in God is sufficient?
The law of Moses was needed for every day life, but it never saved the soul. Just a simple faith was sufficient.
(Lights out)
Revelation 22:14-15, " 14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
So unlike PS and posthuman, you believe keeping the law is absolutely essential, to have a right to the tree of life?
Revelation 22:14-15, " 14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Hmm, seems all I did was post a verse?
Is Jesus a liar to you?
Are you looking for a reason to accuse me because I post Jesus words?
Revelation 1:1-3, " 1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.
I am not the judge, but this I can say 100%
The people that are called "saints" do honor His Commands:
Revelation 14:12-13, " 12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”
Satan fights against people that honor His COmmands:
Rev 12: 17 Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
and yes apparently it does matter:
1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”
John 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”
So are you suggesting that God's people are disobedient, live lives full of sin and reject His laws? and those who honor them are fallen and lost?
I was just asking you a question so that I can understand where you are at. Don't you realize people here rarely state what they believe in clearly? Why you get so agitated?
A simple yes would suffice.
So when I reply and ask question Im agitated, but when you do it no problem? and always with the emojis!!!! Aww!!!
Is Jesus a liar to you?
Are you looking for a reason to accuse me because I post Jesus words?
If you deem this as "asking a question without being agitated", I rest my case then.![]()
Well this is a forum and you can only read text, maybe you are telepathic and can read my emotions? IDK Or maybe you think you can. Some men have been though great trials, some men have had to live hard lives even as children and then to adulthood, these men do not get agitated easily. Possibly you come from the outrage generation and assume everyone gets agitated at everything IDK.
What I do know is I asked you aquestion after I answered your question clearly.
So you will answer my question?
I answered clearly and expanded on details of my view,
now DO you believe Jesus words in this verse?
Revelation 22:14-15, " 14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
I am just keen to understand why you think the way you do.
To you, I am always in error.
I believe jesus words there.
this isn't about you. it's about the truth.
PS and you believe salvation has always been by grace thru faith, apart from works, since OT and NT.
FTS believes that salvation has always required works, since OT and NT.
I will now step aside and let both groups decide which is the truth among yourselves.![]()
There's an enormous thread about that already. Largest in the whole forum.
This thread is about whether there is more than one gospel.
Apollos only knew the scripture and the message of John. Aquilla & Priscilla, two witnesses of the truth that Paul testified of, calling it the 'things of the kingdom of God,' explained to Apollos the gospel more accurately. The scripture does not say Apollos learned a 'different' gospel through them, but that he already taught the gospel accurately, and learned it more accurately.
Apollos heard the gospel John proclaimed.
What gospel did John the Baptist preach?
If you are willing to accept the popular doctrine that everyone in the OT was "looking forward to the cross", then you are going to believe in only one gospel, no matter what others say.
There's an enormous thread about that already. Largest in the whole forum.
This thread is about whether there is more than one gospel.
Apollos only knew the scripture and the message of John. Aquilla & Priscilla, two witnesses of the truth that Paul testified of, calling it the 'things of the kingdom of God,' explained to Apollos the gospel more accurately. The scripture does not say Apollos learned a 'different' gospel through them, but that he already taught the gospel accurately, and learned it more accurately.
Apollos heard the gospel John proclaimed.
What gospel did John the Baptist preach?