Who is voting for Trump again?

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calibob

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My Dad, his parents and siblings were dust bowl refugees. Dad went with uncle Woodie to the Civilian conservation corps to built roads in northern California. I think welfare could easily be turned into workfare so the tax payers would gain from the money spent and the self worth and pride of those who need help that are willing to work for it would get a boost also.

They don't teach work ethics at school and most likely most parents have to work so the children from pre school to high school are being raised by the education system more than their parents and never really learn to work for a living. The know their parents are doing it but that's away from home and them. The system is breaking down just like the family units. Work will help.
 

Hillfarm

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Can't think of another candidate that can do better, or another president in my lifetime, who has.

Unless it turns out that he starts being a spy for Russia, I agree with the House, Senate and Mueller report, there was no collusion. I also see how a political coup had conspired against him by dirty cops, prosecutors, and the ABC intelligence agencies.
I can't really understand those who hate the job he has been doing. Who doesn't want our babies to not suffer infanticide, disarming Korea and bringing them to the peace table, gasoline under $3/gallon, no chemtrails, winning the trade war, keeping America a free country and not a socialist one.
Well I just realized, I guess the last one, may explain my confusion.
 

TabinRivCA

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Can't think of another candidate that can do better, or another president in my lifetime, who has.

Unless it turns out that he starts being a spy for Russia, I agree with the House, Senate and Mueller report, there was no collusion. I also see how a political coup had conspired against him by dirty cops, prosecutors, and the ABC intelligence agencies.
I can't really understand those who hate the job he has been doing. Who doesn't want our babies to not suffer infanticide, disarming Korea and bringing them to the peace table, gasoline under $3/gallon, no chemtrails, winning the trade war, keeping America a free country and not a socialist one.
Well I just realized, I guess the last one, may explain my confusion.[/QUOTE
There are chemtrails where I am and pretty much all over. I was surprised to see them even in some recent movies I've seen. I was watching the drones spray it while standing next to the Mayor here, and when I asked him what it was he said 'he'll get back to me', which he did not.
 

Hillfarm

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What part of the country do you live in, out west somewhere? I haven't seen a chemtrail here in over two months.
 

Lightskin

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I’m saddened and quite surprised such accusations were made against you. Glad to know those accusations are false. Your love for God shines through with so many of your posts. 😎
A Red X regarding UnderGrace’s love for God? Confused.
 
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I just want to know what calibob is using on his face

I want to purchase a year's supply before there's a run on it
 

Hillfarm

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What part of the country do you live in, out west somewhere? I haven't seen a chemtrail here in over two months.
Retraction: I have seen one or more chemtrails today in Kentucky. Although, these are the first one's I have seen in several months.
 

TabinRivCA

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What part of the country do you live in, out west somewhere? I haven't seen a chemtrail here in over two months.
SoCal including San Bernardino, Hemet, LA and Orange Co. I watch a programming from all over the world and seen them in many states, Europe and even England.
They are characterized by thick wide whitish lines, sometimes crisscrossed or like a checkerboard. Another thing I noticed is that clouds are being 'shredded'. I'll see them start out in puffs then end up dispersed.
Yeah, I have a friend in MS who sees them also. One good thing is that God is in control, whatever is going on. Hope your farm is OK!
 

Hillfarm

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SoCal including San Bernardino, Hemet, LA and Orange Co. I watch a programming from all over the world and seen them in many states, Europe and even England.
They are characterized by thick wide whitish lines, sometimes crisscrossed or like a checkerboard. Another thing I noticed is that clouds are being 'shredded'. I'll see them start out in puffs then end up dispersed.
Yeah, I have a friend in MS who sees them also. One good thing is that God is in control, whatever is going on. Hope your farm is OK!
Thank you I appreciate that very much.
The reports I am getting say, there are a few holdout military bases out west, that still do chemtrails, with very scarce chemtrails east of the Mississippi. So, this confirms my source is accurate, thanks again.
 

calibob

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I have advice for you Bob ... do not ever go to Monaco... you would not like it all.:D

Well it has been fun, but your side kick not so much.
FYI: I do not have a sidekick! We have a commitment. In fact I plan on asking her to marry me The first time we meet in person because doing it on line seems much to hollow. She is the first person I plan on meeting when I uproot my life in Oklahoma and move to Van. B.C. And she's the main reason. She understands my commitment to help homeless alcoholic/ addicts and we have nearly identical moral and spiritual values as well as membership in AA/NA and have served on hospitals and institutions panels. If you have a problem with her you also have a problem with me because we are not the Cisco Kid and Poncho. We are Bonnie and Clyde but instead of robbing banks we rob the Devil and try to help his prisoners escape his clutches.

She asked me to try and keep it low key and under the radar but Enough is enough. Let it be known that we are a team now and unless my computer is down or I'm asleep whenever I'm not available here I'm online with her until I get there, that is. TTFN, Cali. Not Mr. Bob. Formality shows a lack of friendship and trust. Doctors, Lawyers and Judges call me Mister.
 

Magenta

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A Red X regarding UnderGrace’s love for God? Confused.
Your confusion is based on your own faulty assumption, and being selective regarding what you choose to view and how you choose to interpret it... though you are as free as any to be wrong in your opinions, and blind to or ignorant of the facts. Nor do I expect you to know what I know! There are those who give much freer reign to their tongues and then feign innocence in denial of the fact that they are no poster child for ideal Christian behavior, and/or acting as if they know it all and in essence looking down on anyone who dares to disagree with them on any issue. Well, you know what they say about opinions. I would rather hold my tongue than offend a brother or sister in Christ, but that does not mean I will remain silent at all times.
 

Magenta

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FYI: I do not have a sidekick! We have a commitment. In fact I plan on asking her to marry me The first time we meet in person because doing it on line seems much to hollow. She is the first person I plan on meeting when I uproot my life in Oklahoma and move to Van. B.C. And she's the main reason. She understands my commitment to help homeless alcoholic/ addicts and we have nearly identical moral and spiritual values as well as membership in AA/NA and have served on hospitals and institutions panels. If you have a problem with her you also have a problem with me because we are not the Cisco Kid and Poncho. We are Bonnie and Clyde but instead of robbing banks we rob the Devil and try to help his prisoners escape his clutches.

She asked me to try and keep it low key and under the radar but Enough is enough. Let it be known that we are a team now and unless my computer is down or I'm asleep whenever I'm not available here I'm online with her until I get there, that is. TTFN, Cali. Not Mr. Bob. Formality shows a lack of friendship and trust. Doctors, Lawyers and Judges call me Mister.
Bob, that is so well said, I like how you expressed the idea of robbing the devil, for that is our shared desire, and I do so look forward to serving the Lord with you, in person! We have so much to be grateful for :):love::)
 

Lightskin

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Your confusion is based on your own faulty assumption, and being selective regarding what you choose to view and how you choose to interpret it... though you are as free as any to be wrong in your opinions, and blind to or ignorant of the facts. Nor do I expect you to know what I know! There are those who give much freer reign to their tongues and then feign innocence in denial of the fact that they are no poster child for ideal Christian behavior, and/or acting as if they know it all and in essence looking down on anyone who dares to disagree with them on any issue. Well, you know what they say about opinions. I would rather hold my tongue than offend a brother or sister in Christ, but that does not mean I will remain silent at all times.
You’re very hostile regarding my confusion which makes it obvious you have ulterior motives regarding your posts and reactions. That said, I only want the best for you same way I want the best for UnderGrace.

I see her exemplary faith in Christ, giving Him all due credit. I know you feel the same about Christ because I’ve read enough of your posts that glorify Him. That said, I hope your jaded anger leaves you soon.; it’s not becoming of someone who helps hold this place together as you do. God bless.
 

Magenta

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You’re very hostile regarding my confusion which makes it obvious you have ulterior motives regarding your posts and reactions. That said, I only want the best for you same way I want the best for UnderGrace.

I see her exemplary faith in Christ, giving Him all due credit. I know you feel the same about Christ because I’ve read enough of your posts that glorify Him. That said, I hope your jaded anger leaves you soon.; it’s not becoming of someone who helps hold this place together as you do. God bless.
I am forthcoming about your confusion, you interpret that as hostility, which also means you reject the notion you could have been wrong about what the red x was for in the first place. Well, like I said, you are free to be wrong, even as you are wrong to malign me. Your motives do not seem to be as pure as you would like us to believe. This type of exchange is distasteful to me. Bye for now.
 

calibob

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You’re very hostile regarding my confusion which makes it obvious you have ulterior motives regarding your posts and reactions. That said, I only want the best for you same way I want the best for UnderGrace.

I see her exemplary faith in Christ, giving Him all due credit. I know you feel the same about Christ because I’ve read enough of your posts that glorify Him. That said, I hope your jaded anger leaves you soon.; it’s not becoming of someone who helps hold this place together as you do. God bless.
It's not her faith in Christ that's in question rather political polarization. If she agrees with some of a post but also objects to some how would you have her react with only 1 reaction per post? She is not as articulate as I and hasn't as much experience in public speaking. I agree with most of what all three of you say elsewhere. How ever I believe in principals not personalities and I will take anyone to task that tries to say it's my Christian responsibility to support any candidate or political party that I don't fully support. and my love for the homes, the foreigner the weak, sick, unborn young and old trumps (no pun intended) all political affiliations @Magenta feels the same way. I'm certain. When I say non profit, I don't mean free, all servants deserve to be paid. as Paul said;

1 Corinthians 9:13 13Don't you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? Paul was also a tent maker.

Why is that so hard to understand? We are in the world but no longer of the word now. Even the Oxen that grinds the wheat is allowed to eat as it goes but Not to store. Who would that leave? People who are satisfied with wat they have and desire to help others. I would vote for that person if I believed they were fairly honest and transparent about their finances. Otherwise the committees will choose a leader for us, the way things are now.
 

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Just to add my two cents...when a society is made up by rich people and poor people, it has a bigger chance of getting destabilized. Some sort of redistribution of wealth is necessary...and we have that already in big ole Lone Star. The alternative is the people starting redistributing wealth themselves...more often than not it gets ugly when they do...
Ugh! See? This is the type of thing that drives me crazy. There are very few “poor “ in America.

Rich, Poor, they are relative terms. What you and I may consider poor here is great wealth in many parts of the world. I have seen with my own eyes what true poverty looks like.
Worse than the democrat controlled cities in California and Washington, where homelessness has exploded specifically because of democrat policies.
Free market capitalism, governed by our constitution, is the single greatest reason the vast amount of our population has virtually all of life’s necessities, and most of life’s wants.

It’s insane to want to abandon that legacy and make our nation like the ones so many has fled from.
 
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Bob, that is so well said, I like how you expressed the idea of robbing the devil, for that is our shared desire, and I do so look forward to serving the Lord with you, in person! We have so much to be grateful for :):love::)

gee I thought everyone knew about that

anyway...a big congratulations to you both :giggle:(y)
 
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It's not her faith in Christ that's in question rather political polarization. If she agrees with some of a post but also objects to some how would you have her react with only 1 reaction per post? She is not as articulate as I and hasn't as much experience in public speaking. I agree with most of what all three of you say elsewhere. How ever I believe in principals not personalities and I will take anyone to task that tries to say it's my Christian responsibility to support any candidate or political party that I don't fully support. and my love for the homes, the foreigner the weak, sick, unborn young and old trumps (no pun intended) all political affiliations @Magenta feels the same way. I'm certain. When I say non profit, I don't mean free, all servants deserve to be paid. as Paul said;

1 Corinthians 9:13 13Don't you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? Paul was also a tent maker.

Why is that so hard to understand? We are in the world but no longer of the word now. Even the Oxen that grinds the wheat is allowed to eat as it goes but Not to store. Who would that leave? People who are satisfied with wat they have and desire to help others. I would vote for that person if I believed they were fairly honest and transparent about their finances. Otherwise the committees will choose a leader for us, the way things are now.
She is not as articulate as I and hasn't as much experience in public speaking. I agree with most of what all three of you say elsewhere. How ever I believe in principals not personalities


Are you related to one,or just favor them in general?

Not questioning your articulate post or anything.....

However..... how ever

Just joking dude