Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Here Christian and Jew come together as we look forward to the return of Christ.
Zec_14:9 echoes to Lords Prayer of Mat 6:10) “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” It will have its final answer in the coming of the King in the power of His might. It will not be a spiritual and gradual coming, the effects of preaching, but a personal, literal coming in the clouds of heaven (Zec_14:4).
In the meantime you need to make sure you are ready to receive our Lord and Saviour by following Him in this life and not digging a grave for yourself under the condemnation of the law.
Zec_14:9 echoes to Lords Prayer of Mat 6:10) “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” It will have its final answer in the coming of the King in the power of His might. It will not be a spiritual and gradual coming, the effects of preaching, but a personal, literal coming in the clouds of heaven (Zec_14:4).
In the meantime you need to make sure you are ready to receive our Lord and Saviour by following Him in this life and not digging a grave for yourself under the condemnation of the law.
Seems you are unaware of He who sent Jesus Christ. And also unaware of what shall be done prior to Christ's return?
As well, as who it is He who sent Jesus Christ in the first place uses in the accomplishment of this?
Psalm 110
The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, UNTIL I make thine enemies thy footstool
This is why I keep saying. You have "the clock."
Yet, can't tell what time it is!
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That's what I don't get Yahshua!
If ya read from Ezekiel 40, to the end?
It tells in great detail, even, how the Temple in the New Jerusalem is going to look!
I don't get it! I just don't get it!
Spiritual sacrifices offered to God by Jesus?
An Holy Priesthood?
If ya read from Ezekiel 40, to the end?
It tells in great detail, even, how the Temple in the New Jerusalem is going to look!
I don't get it! I just don't get it!
Spiritual sacrifices offered to God by Jesus?
An Holy Priesthood?
There certainly were more than Sin and guilt offerings at the temple!
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Jesus said:
“I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”
John 8:26
There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.” John 12:48-50
Do you know who the Lawgiver and the Judge Is?
Do you believe that God is Love? That God is perfect?
When our Perfect God gave His commandments, are they not perfect?
Are they not His words?
Love is the fulfilment of the law. Who fulfilled the law?
Jesus is the fulfilment of the Law. Jesus is perfect and He is the Word of God. He is from the beginning.
Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining. 1 John 2:7-8
This is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another. 1 John 3:11
The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments, LOVE God and LOVE thy neighbour.
...Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching,(see John 14:20-24) you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32
Do you know now what and who "the perfect law that gives freedom" Is?
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and Walk in Love.
God is good and His LOVE endures forever.
“I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”
John 8:26
There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.” John 12:48-50
Do you know who the Lawgiver and the Judge Is?
Do you believe that God is Love? That God is perfect?
When our Perfect God gave His commandments, are they not perfect?
Are they not His words?
Love is the fulfilment of the law. Who fulfilled the law?
Jesus is the fulfilment of the Law. Jesus is perfect and He is the Word of God. He is from the beginning.
Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining. 1 John 2:7-8
This is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another. 1 John 3:11
The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments, LOVE God and LOVE thy neighbour.
...Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching,(see John 14:20-24) you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32
Do you know now what and who "the perfect law that gives freedom" Is?
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and Walk in Love.
God is good and His LOVE endures forever.
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.” Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?” Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. John 14:20-24
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It certainly will be like that.
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us
Who is our Passover? Christ
1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me Write " Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth Yea, saith the Spirit that they may rest from their labours and their works do follow them.
The dead in the Lord will find rest from their labours - (don't let someone convince you to rest and not work, your rest will not follow you, not to mention you must be dead) BUT
"and THEIR WORKS DO FOLLOW THEM" Think about it, the only thing you will take with you is " your works". (no matter what your belief, remember works, be they good or bad, they will follow you. Make sure you have good works to take with you. Don't let anyone convince or confuse you, "works" are good for God and for you)
Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. (this means too)
So much judging. Are you forgetting, or don't you know, or don't you care? These are Gods servants, who are you to judge another mans servant? How can you preach God if you do not follow His commands while doing it?
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
How will anyone be able to reign with Christ, if they do not love, nor are studied in "all" the Word of God? How can you be a priest if you have discarded "as for someone else and not you, parts of the Word of God" ? With not a jot or tittle to be destroyed, it must all be very important and studied to show yourself approved.
Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked for they seek not thy statutes.
Psalm 119:156 Great are thy tender mercies, O LORD quicken me according to thy judgments.
Psalm 119:157 Many are my persecutors and mine enemies yet do I not decline from thy testimonies.
Psalm 119:158 I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved because they kept not thy word.
Psalm 119:159 Consider how I love thy precepts quicken me, O LORD according to thy lovingkindness.
Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
The Commandments of God are forever. And when you think you are judging another, you are judging yourself.
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore for it is holy unto you every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
God rested on the 7th day, like in the beginning of this age.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Who is our Sabbath? Christ
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us
Who is our Passover? Christ
1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me Write " Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth Yea, saith the Spirit that they may rest from their labours and their works do follow them.
The dead in the Lord will find rest from their labours - (don't let someone convince you to rest and not work, your rest will not follow you, not to mention you must be dead) BUT
"and THEIR WORKS DO FOLLOW THEM" Think about it, the only thing you will take with you is " your works". (no matter what your belief, remember works, be they good or bad, they will follow you. Make sure you have good works to take with you. Don't let anyone convince or confuse you, "works" are good for God and for you)
Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. (this means too)
So much judging. Are you forgetting, or don't you know, or don't you care? These are Gods servants, who are you to judge another mans servant? How can you preach God if you do not follow His commands while doing it?
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
How will anyone be able to reign with Christ, if they do not love, nor are studied in "all" the Word of God? How can you be a priest if you have discarded "as for someone else and not you, parts of the Word of God" ? With not a jot or tittle to be destroyed, it must all be very important and studied to show yourself approved.
Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked for they seek not thy statutes.
Psalm 119:156 Great are thy tender mercies, O LORD quicken me according to thy judgments.
Psalm 119:157 Many are my persecutors and mine enemies yet do I not decline from thy testimonies.
Psalm 119:158 I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved because they kept not thy word.
Psalm 119:159 Consider how I love thy precepts quicken me, O LORD according to thy lovingkindness.
Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
The Commandments of God are forever. And when you think you are judging another, you are judging yourself.
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore for it is holy unto you every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
God rested on the 7th day, like in the beginning of this age.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Who is our Sabbath? Christ
nothing to see here. just randomly plucked out verses to prop a salvation by Law/command keeping lie.
this person has been shown that they are wrong, by the Mount of Transfiguration , Leviticus 26, the entire Gospel of John, Paul's letter to the Romans, etc..
yet this person just repeats the same lies, as if the things listed above do not exist.
this person has been shown that they are wrong, by the Mount of Transfiguration , Leviticus 26, the entire Gospel of John, Paul's letter to the Romans, etc..
yet this person just repeats the same lies, as if the things listed above do not exist.
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Yes. I posted the scripture for it.
I was asking you if you knew what it was.
If you interpret scripture correctly it kind of looks like you do. Sort of.
But then too, it kind of looks like a blend of judaism and christianity. Kind of hard to tell. Depends on how you interpret the scripture you posted.
I was asking you if you knew what it was.
If you interpret scripture correctly it kind of looks like you do. Sort of.
But then too, it kind of looks like a blend of judaism and christianity. Kind of hard to tell. Depends on how you interpret the scripture you posted.
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That's the thing. We already went to the author (master physician) and are now well. That's the first part.
We are then given specific instructions to follow to avoid getting sick again.
That's what our "spurring-on" is all about: avoiding getting sick again. The second part. But some (like you, respectfully) keep arguing as if we were never healed at the start of this process.
Some would insinuate that the author (master physician) ALSO keeps us from getting sick again - all on his own, as he does all the work - with no effort required to be taken on our part, and if we do anything we're instantly made sick again.
...while some insinuate that we are never made well by Him but that He simply covers our cancer with bandages and calls us "healed", and any effort or movement by us will cause our bandages to fall off exposing the illness.
Meanwhile, some of us believe that when the author (master physician) heals us we are finally healed; no longer at death's door, but then - in a healed state - He expects us to obey his instructions to avoid getting sick again, as He gives us the best support system to do so, but that we must make the effort to build up our body's resistance.
And if we DO relapse and get sick again we can freely and immediately go back to Him to be healed.
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Our entire push is for the second part of this process, but you keep replying as if we're pushing for doing the first part ourselves.
That's what's frustrating.
We are then given specific instructions to follow to avoid getting sick again.
That's what our "spurring-on" is all about: avoiding getting sick again. The second part. But some (like you, respectfully) keep arguing as if we were never healed at the start of this process.
Some would insinuate that the author (master physician) ALSO keeps us from getting sick again - all on his own, as he does all the work - with no effort required to be taken on our part, and if we do anything we're instantly made sick again.
...while some insinuate that we are never made well by Him but that He simply covers our cancer with bandages and calls us "healed", and any effort or movement by us will cause our bandages to fall off exposing the illness.
Meanwhile, some of us believe that when the author (master physician) heals us we are finally healed; no longer at death's door, but then - in a healed state - He expects us to obey his instructions to avoid getting sick again, as He gives us the best support system to do so, but that we must make the effort to build up our body's resistance.
And if we DO relapse and get sick again we can freely and immediately go back to Him to be healed.
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Our entire push is for the second part of this process, but you keep replying as if we're pushing for doing the first part ourselves.
That's what's frustrating.
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Most certainly if this were true, you would attach the posts. These "random" posts must really bother you. The Word of God (the lawgiver) goes against OSAS and all the twisting of the truth that must follow. I myself am very happy "works" are the only thing to follow us.
The traditions of men make void the word of God. I can find no truth in any of this.
The traditions of men make void the word of God. I can find no truth in any of this.
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Right then. Now we cannot put all Jews in the same bracket. Many turned to Christ, both for physical healing and for spiritual healing. Other Jews believed Jesus was an impostor and plotted his death. Those who believed in him, followed him and worshipped him are saved by Him eternally. Now I do not know which group you belong to, but if people are going to follow Jesus, they need to give Him their all and I see so much talk about Moses and the law, I really wonder where their affections lie. I don't want to know, it is not for me to know, that is between you and the Lord, but when I am among Christians, which I usually am, our talk is of spiritual matters, we have times of devotion, we have the communion service in which we remember Christs death and resurrection. We do not deny the Trinity because that is to deny Jesus, and there is so much talk on the internet that exclude Jesus, who should be at the centre of our affections, that I really wonder about the spiritual state of peoples hearts. Mainly it seems to me most peoples thoughts are with all things regarding earthly Israel, rather than the Saviour. Those whose thoughts dwell on Jesus are the ones who self identify as Christians, while others identify as Jewish or some other religion. Your thoughts, it seems to me are all on the Old Testament about which you are very knowledgeable.
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It is not jealousy, it is sorrow for you. Our works follow us. They are all we can take with us, but you don't want any. What is worse "your teaching", that results in making others feel like works are bad. Your teaching causes believers to "question" works, like they might not be good or desired by the Lord. That is like teaching the law is of death, or puts you in bondage, or you "work" it.