Of elephants and donkeys

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RickyZ

RickyZ

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I don't think I need to convince many here that the liberal agenda is straight out of the pit of hades. You can be - and do - any sex you want! Personal accountability be d@mned, if it feels good you have the right to do it! Money for nothing and yer chicks for free. Jesus said if you're able to work and choose not to there is no free lunch. And that one is accountable, until they bring their sins to Him.

But luckily, most Christians see them for what they really are. Frankly it's hard not to, it's so blatant and open in the world today.

Sadly, far too many Christians are blinded to what the other side really is. The conservative agenda serves only one god - money. Strip it from here, strip it from there, by (their) god the fact that they are first in line at the buffet means they are entitled to all of it. Sick people came to Jesus for healing and He healed them for free. Sick people come to conservatives for healing and conservatives say only if you can afford a huge cost increase. Riches are used to begit power and more riches. Jesus said riches should be shared with the world. The face of the conservative movement isn't Jesus, it's Martin Shkreli.

What I don't get is why so many Christians are blind to it. It's so blatant and open in the world today. Less they be part of it, which shamefully too many are.

Don't be deceived. The elephant and the donkey are in cahoots.

We sit here and argue over which lever we're going to pull, while satan sits watching over us laughing because they both lead to the same end.

And while Jesus sits watching over us crying, because we argue over which way we're going to get to that end, instead of discussing what we're going to do when it comes.

If you are not of this world, you can not vote for either of the world's parties.









 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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You have serious issues man......all you do is rant and rave against the government and the rich............Read Romans 13....GOD uses HUMAN governments to work HIS PERFECT WILL....and JESUS did not say to constantly b---- about the government, but to render unto CAESAR........
 
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RickyZ said:
I don't think I need to convince many here that the liberal agenda is straight out of the pit of hades. You can be - and do - any sex you want! Personal accountability be d@mned, if it feels good you have the right to do it! Money for nothing and yer chicks for free. Jesus said if you're able to work and choose not to there is no free lunch. And that one is accountable, until they bring their sins to Him.

But luckily, most Christians see them for what they really are. Frankly it's hard not to, it's so blatant and open in the world today.

Sadly, far too many Christians are blinded to what the other side really is. The conservative agenda serves only one god - money. Strip it from here, strip it from there, by (their) god the fact that they are first in line at the buffet means they are entitled to all of it. Sick people came to Jesus for healing and He healed them for free. Sick people come to conservatives for healing and conservatives say only if you can afford a huge cost increase. Riches are used to begit power and more riches. Jesus said riches should be shared with the world. The face of the conservative movement isn't Jesus, it's Martin Shkreli.

What I don't get is why so many Christians are blind to it. It's so blatant and open in the world today. Less they be part of it, which shamefully too many are.

Don't be deceived. The elephant and the donkey are in cahoots.

We sit here and argue over which lever we're going to pull, while satan sits watching over us laughing because they both lead to the same end.

And while Jesus sits watching over us crying, because we argue over which way we're going to get to that end, instead of discussing what we're going to do when it comes.

If you are not of this world, you can not vote for either of the world's parties.
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If you think this is bad spend some time reading about Ancient Rome and Greece, or how about the Russian Revolution and the takeover of the Communists.

A little reality check maybe... you can get in your car and go to the next state, you did not have to ask for permission from the government six months ahead only to be denied even if your elderly grandmother was on her death bed.
 
RickyZ

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UnderGrace said:
If you think this is bad spend some time reading about Ancient Rome and Greece, or how about the Russian Revolution and the takeover of the Communists.

A little reality check maybe... you can get in your car and go to the next state, you did not have to ask for permission from the government six months ahead only to be denied even if your elderly grandmother was on her death bed.
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Does risking jail in Columbia so you can bring food and medicine to the poor there count?
 
TabinRivCA

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My daughter-in-law from the Philippines can't get a visa issued from the US and also wants to charge my son over $500 in paperwork. Can't somebody figure this stuff out.
I don't think all libs are from the pit and I don't think all cons are dropped down from heaven.
I lean to the right, but considering all the people in the world, is this the BEST candidate the conservative party can dig up. The remarks even children make about him are sad.
Can't the evangelicals do better. Whatever, we are told to pray over our 'officials'.
 
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Does risking jail in Columbia so you can bring food and medicine to the poor there count?
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I assume you live in the USA.... I am speaking to the USA.

I am not American, but family lives in the United States so I follow American politics fairly closely.

I agree that the Republican party wears a thinly veiled facade to garner the evangelical vote.

So I think your focusing on the wrong reasons when you rail against the Republican Party when you focus on their domestic policies.
 
RickyZ

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I assume you live in the USA.... I am speaking to the USA.

I am not American, but family lives in the United States so I follow American politics fairly closely.

I agree that the Republican party wears a thinly veiled facade to garner the evangelical vote.

So I think your focusing on the wrong reasons when you rail against the Republican Party when you focus on their domestic policies.
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Their domestic policies violate scripture. Why would I not rail against that? :)
 
dcontroversal

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Their domestic policies violate scripture. Why would I not rail against that? :)
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Does pro-life and the right to openly embrace God violate scripture? NO.......I guess you would rather the libs get it and embrace the murder of babies, the suppression of the word of God and the right to have sex with anyone and everything......
 
Lanolin

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Is there a lamb party. I would vote for the Lamb.
 
RickyZ

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UnderGrace said:
Seems to me you are highly focused on area.... tax reform

I think the whole platform would be better.

https://www.ontheissues.org/republican_party.htm
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No, my focus is on exposing the right for what it is, thereby alerting brothers and sisters that there is no point in arguing over or supporting the percieved lesser evil.

They need to see the right is no better than the left.
 
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No, my focus is on exposing the right for what it is, thereby alerting brothers and sisters that there is no point in arguing over or supporting the percieved lesser evil.

They need to see the right is no better than the left.
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Yes but you only focus only tax reform .... you do realize a person can support "supply side economics" policies thinking it is really in the best interest of the economy and this is very different than someone who supports "supply side economics" policies in order to gain more wealth?
 
RickyZ

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Yes but you only focus only tax reform .... you do realize a person can support "supply side economics" policies thinking it is really in the best interest of the economy and this is very different than someone who supports "supply side economics" policies in order to gain more wealth?
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That's not my only focus. That's just one example. Like everything, it's in the heart's intent. Those who received a gain and honestly passed it down the line are great. But they are also the minority. Really, there's only one thing wrong with unfettered capitalism, and that's human greed. But that is it's fatal flaw.
 
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That's not my only focus. That's just one example. Like everything, it's in the heart's intent. Those who received a gain and honestly passed it down the line are great. But they are also the minority. Really, there's only one thing wrong with unfettered capitalism, and that's human greed. But that is it's fatal flaw.
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Human greed is not the flaw of capitalism... human greed is a human flaw.

And that human flaw is present in the human workings of all economic systems... capitalism still happens to be the best option for a variety of reasons.
 
TabinRivCA

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UnderGrace said:
Human greed is not the flaw of capitalism... human greed is a human flaw.

And that human flaw is present in the human workings of all economic systems... capitalism still happens to be the best option for a variety of reasons.
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What do you think of the large % of corpsl having the lions share of the profits..and growing.
 
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What do you think of the large % of corpsl having the lions share of the profits..and growing.
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If you have an idea, the drive, hard work, ambition to bring it to fruition who should get the reap the benefits of that endeavor?

Equality of outcome for everyone has not proven to be very successful in the past few hundred years.
 
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RickyZ said:
That's not my only focus. That's just one example. Like everything, it's in the heart's intent. Those who received a gain and honestly passed it down the line are great. But they are also the minority. Really, there's only one thing wrong with unfettered capitalism, and that's human greed. But that is it's fatal flaw.
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Do you not think that human greed is not present in socialism?
Human greed is in humans and thus in all human systems.
 
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